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    AJ Jetta battery replacement

    The battery went kaput in the 12 JSW.

    I purchased a new battery from my dealer. The parts guy claimed that there was currently a shortage of VW branded batteries, but that they carried Interstate batteries which are actually OEM, and the exact replacement.

    The old battery is labeled: 5K0-915-105-D 12V 60Ah 280A

    The new interstate battery is labeled: 54Ah

    There is no BEM code on the battery..

    Are these batteries exact replacements? Will I just need to change the battery serial number by one digit?

    Code:
    Tuesday,07,May,2019,18:58:33:63181
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 19.4.0.0 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4504.4
    Data version: 20190411 DS307.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: 3VWPP7AJ6CM690099   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 132190km-82139mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
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    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: AJ-VW36 (7N0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 1C 25 2E 42 44 46 4F 52 56 62 72
              77
    
    VIN: 3VWPP7AJ6CM690099   Mileage: 132190km-82139miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (CBU)       Labels: 07K-906-055-CBT.clb
       Part No SW: 07K 906 055 CL    HW: 07K 907 309 B
       Component: 2,5l R5/4V      G01 3692  
       Revision: T4H06---    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000075
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: FAB87A6FB529149805-80AE
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
       Part No SW: 09G 927 750 LM    HW: 09G 927 750 LM
       Component: AQ 250 6F           1919  
       Revision: 00H90000    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000840
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 875E139BF6DB79700A-80D2
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BL    HW: 1K0 907 379 BL
       Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0152  
       Revision: 00H31001    
       Coding: 114B400C492B00FA880B02ED92220041B70000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: FDB27173640723A020-80A8
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 3C8-907-336.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 426 AN    HW: 7N0 907 426 AN
       Component: AC Manuell    H19 0404  
       Revision: 00001018    
       Coding: 0000001002
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00120
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueBHBVW36X A01010
       ROD: EV_ACManueBHBVW36X_VW36.rod
       VCID: 804C08871BF54E484B-80D4
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 937 084 J    HW: 5K0 937 084 J
       Component: BCM PQ35 B    021 0064  
       Revision: BG021001    
       Coding: 2F380E1F802F3EC4008800C17000004449000086435D0D60648020200040
       Shop #: WSC 05960 002 1048576
       VCID: B93AA56330AFDF804C-80EC
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 07041  26  0512 
       Coding: 009795
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 959 655 H    HW: 5K0 959 655 H
       Component: AirbagVW10G   013 0724  
       Serial number: 003GVRA1LX0D  
       Coding: 00003133
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 A01014
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
       VCID: BFCECB7B268BF1B072-80EA
    
       Seat occupied recognition: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1KM 959 339 B    HW: 1KM 959 339 B
       Component: BF-Gewichtss.  006 0001 
       Serial number: ---0000R--00003SX200
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 1KM 955 557     HW: 1KM 955 557 
       Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H01 ---- 
       Serial number: 3572MSME704B146BZZZ.
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 1KM 955 557     HW: 1KM 955 557 
       Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H01 ---- 
       Serial number: 3582MSME0770116BZZZR
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
       Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  --- ---- 
       Serial number: 3511HSME7203262BZZZE
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
       Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  --- ---- 
       Serial number: 3521HSME6118252BZZZI
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
       Component: F.Sens.Fahr  --- ---- 
       Serial number: 35527SME48614E2BZZZQ
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
       Component: F.Sens.Beif  --- ---- 
       Serial number: 35627SME14694E2BZZZS
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 507 AH    HW: 5K0 953 549 B
       Component: Lenks.Modul   008 0080  
       Revision: --------    Serial number:  90440LC1000P5
       Coding: 188A140000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00184
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGKUDS A05001
       ROD: EV_SMLSNGKUDS_A05.rod
       VCID: F6A06E5F493170F861-80A2
    
       Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 A    HW: 5K0 959 542 A  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H09 0013 
       Serial number: 0149197             
       Coding: 820000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 5K0 920 972 B    HW: 5K0 920 972 B
       Component: KOMBI         H03 0607  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 270F01
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00120
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04114
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
       VCID: AF2E9B3BF6EB0130E2-80FA
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 P    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: J533  Gateway H40 1623  
       Revision:   H40       Serial number: 27031201291278
       Coding: 352002
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: BD32B1732487E3A060-80E8
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 919 879     HW: 5N0 919 879 
       Component: Kompass         001 0001  
       Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 1225223RGW3M06
       Coding: 0000002
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: FEB0767FA90138B839-80AA
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H03 0607  
       Serial number:               
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
       VCID: EA984A2F0D89A418F5-80BE
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 E    HW: 5N0 035 342 E
       Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0240  
       Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7661974222    
       Coding: 010000
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: A91A7523C00F6F003C-80FC
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 561 959 701     HW: 3C0 959 793 B
       Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0501  
       Revision: 13110009    Serial number: 0004294140
       Coding: 0004B5
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
       ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X_VW36.rod
       VCID: DBF61FEBD2D3CD907E-808E
    
       Slave Driver: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C0 959 703 C    HW: 3C0 959 795 D  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J388__TSG-HL  008 1509 
       Serial number: 00000006521905      
       Coding: 000490
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
       Part No: 1K0 909 144 P
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 70     3305  
       Revision: 00H22000    
       Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
       VCID: B73EA35BC6BBC9F0BA-80E2
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)       Labels:. 1K0-907-532.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 532     HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: EZE_2         H40 1623  
       Revision:   H40       Serial number: 27031201291278
       Coding: 050B0500
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: EFAE5B3B3E6B4130A2-80BA
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R0 959 591 A    HW: 8R0 959 591 
       Component: J245EE20SKB13  H05 0220 
       Serial number: 0123456789ABCDEFGHIJ
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8R0 959 591 A    HW: 8R0 959 591 
       Component: J394EE20SKB13  H03 0220 
       Serial number: 0123456789ABCDEFGHIJ
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 561 959 702     HW: 3C0 959 792 B
       Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0501  
       Revision: 15110009    Serial number: 0004300663
       Coding: 0004B4
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
       ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X_VW36.rod
       VCID: DCF41CF7D7DDCAA877-8088
    
       Slave Passenger: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C0 959 704 C    HW: 3C0 959 794 D  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J389__TSG-HR  007 1509 
       Serial number: 00000006342112      
       Coding: 000490
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 AE    HW: 1K0 035 180 AE
       Component: Radio Prem-8  H02 0016  
       Revision: -----16S    Serial number: VWZ4Z7M3277784
       Coding: 01000400040007
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: E386270BE2A3F55036-80B6
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 7P6-035-730.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 035 730 E    HW: 5K0 035 730 E
       Component: TELEFON       H09 2902  
       Revision: 1B001001    Serial number: 00007661826397
       Coding: 0A10040000010100
       Shop #: WSC 01383 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA A01719
       ROD: UHVNA.rod
       VCID: A71E731BDE1B59702A-80F2
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:33, VBatt start/end: 12.1V/12.1V)-----------

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    This car doesn't appear to have a BEM, meaning there's nothing to code.

    Personally, I don't like putting smaller capacity batteries in a car. If it were mine, I'd get the highest capacity H6 size battery I could find, preferably an AGM. Here's a 70 Ah one:
    https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/...agm/10210829-P

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    Thanks Uwe!

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    I'm not aware of Interstate being an OE supplier. Varta was king of the OE batteries when I was at the dealer... eh... maybe the Chattynooooogaaaaa cars use Interstate?

    As I understand it (possible errors here), you just can't ship batteries around willy-nilly like oil filters and tail lights. Batteries fall under some sort of hazardous materials, thus special permits and licenses required to transport them from point A to B in bulk. This cost a lot of money to set up, so VW/Audi just farmed it out to Interstate to do the distribution/shipping to the dealers.

    A pallet of batteries, for example 000 915 105 DL, arrive from Germany to a warehouse operated by Interstate. These batteries only have a BEM code sticker on them. Some person has a roll of VW/Audi branded stickers, peels one off, slaps it onto a battery and now you one OE battery as you see them. From there, batteries are filtered down through Insterstate's distribution network and eventually to the dealer as needed.

    The dealer I worked at, we sold both Interstate and OE batteries. Prices varied from time to time so whatever was the cheaper option to present to the customer is what we went with.
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    For future reference- What are you not seeing on the auto-scan that tells you that this car does not need coding?

    Does the BEM show up as a unique item on the installation list/auto scan?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninethree2cc View Post
    Does the BEM show up as a unique item on the installation list/auto scan?
    In some cars (mostly older Audis) it does, at address 61. In most newer cars, it shows up as a sub-system ("slave") of 19-CAN gateway. Your car has neither.

    Most NAR Golf-class cars do not have one, unless the car has a Start/Stop system.

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    ^^^ 932cc: to expound on Uwe's explanation - here's an example (the bold, blue bit) of "it shows up as a sub-system ("slave") of 19-CAN gateway" (in this case, the extract is from a newer style MQB platform vehicle "with Start/Stop system")

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    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 E    HW: 5Q0 907 530 E
       Component: GW MQB Mid    121 1109  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 0000188941
       Coding: 030100342B086400EF0006481C0F00010001000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00025
       ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 006010
       ROD: EV_GatewLear_AU37.rod
       VCID: 3365F3749A38A9A38D-8066
    
       Alternator: 
    
       Multifunction unit control module: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 959 442 J    HW: 5G0 959 442 J
    H13 0035 
       Serial number: 02120005290300060291
    
       Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 C    HW: 5Q0 915 181 C
       Component: J367-BDMHella  H03 8042 
       Serial number: 3451678601    
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    Our wiki page on the topic for all your Battery Regulation needs:
    http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index...ry_Replacement

    None of the content applies to OP's car, but it doesn't hurt to learn new stuff.... unless it is learning your kid didn't pick up the all of the lego bits and you are barefoot.

    Be sure to watch the video at the bottom of that wiki page and then SMASH that like button, subscribe, check out our Instachats and join our Facepunch fan club... buy my merch.....
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