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    Tiguan TDI conversion ABS help needed

    Looking for some guidance.

    Just installed a CJAA/DSG (FWD) from a 2012 Jetta into a 2012 Tiguan (TSI/4mo automatic).

    Malone did the tune. Engine is working fine with the exception of a P0381 code which I cannot find on Wiki. Have checked for power and signal wires from ECU. Only thought on this would be that I have the gasser instrument cluster installed. I have a cluster from a Euro Tig TDI but have not installed it yet.

    My second issue is with ABS coding. The tig was a 4 motion with Aisin 6 speed automatic. I removed prop shaft and disconnected the Haldex unit.
    I have tried all the codes from this list and the closest I come to getting rid of the errors is 5185. The scan is with the 5185 code.

    Any advice, pointers, direction, would be much appreciated on either the P0381 or the ABS coding


    engine and transmission combination: 4096
    1029 - 1.4tsi 75 - 100kW front-wheel drive manual transmission 1029 5125
    1032 - 1.4tsi 75 - 100kW front-wheel drive manual transmission (China) 1032 5128
    1035 - 1.4tsi 101 - 130kW front-wheel drive manual transmission 1035 5131
    1038 - 1.4tsi 101 - 130kW manual transmission 4Motion 1038 5134
    1041 - 1.8tsi 105 - 130kW front-wheel drive manual transmission (China) 1041 5137
    1044 - 1.8tsi 105 - 130kW front-wheel drive automatic (China) 1044 5140
    1047 - 1.8tsi 105 - 130kW automatic transmission 4Motion (China) 1047 5143
    1050 - 2.0tsi 125 - 160kW automatic transmission 4Motion (China) 1050 5146
    1053 - 1.4tsi 101 - 130kW DSG front-wheel drive (NAR) 1053 5149
    1056 - 2.0tsi 125 - 160kW DSG 4Motion (CCZD motor 132kW) 1056 5152
    1059 - 2.0tsi 125 - 160kW front-wheel drive manual transmission (NAR) 1059 5155
    1062 - 2.0tsi 125 - 160kW front-wheel drive automatic (NAR) 1062 5158
    1065 - 2.0tsi 125 - 160kW automatic transmission 4Motion (NAR) 1065 5161 original
    1068 - 2.0tsi 125 - 160kW manual transmission 4Motion 1068 5164
    1071 - 2.0tsi 125 - 160kW DSG 4Motion 1071 5167
    1074 - 2.0tsi 125 - 160kW automatic transmission 4Motion 1074 5170
    1077 - 2.0tsi 125 - 160kW front-wheel drive manual transmission (NAR) 1077 5173
    1080 - 2.0tdi 70 - 90kW front-wheel drive manual transmission 1080 5176
    1083 - 2.0tdi 91 - 110kW front-wheel drive manual transmission 1083 5179
    1086 - 2.0tdi 91 - 110kW manual transmission 4Motion 1086 5182
    1089 - 2.0tdi 91 - 110kW DSG 4Motion 1089 5185
    1092 - 2.0tdi 91 - 110kW automatic transmission 4Motion 1092 5188
    1095 - 2.0tdi 111 - 130kW DSG 4Motion 1095 5191
    1098 - 2.0tdi 111 - 130kW manual transmission 4Motion 1098 5194
    1101 - 1.4tsi 101 - 130kW DSG front-wheel drive 1101 5197



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    VIN: 3VWJL7AJXAM022708   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 196150km-121881mi   Repair Order: 7-8-19 Tiguan TDI
    
    
    
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    Chassis Type: AJ-VW36 (7N0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 4F 52 53 56 62 72
             
    
    VIN: 3VWJL7AJXAM022708   Mileage: 196150km-121881miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: Not registered 0001
    37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
     
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    Address 01: Engine (CJA)       Labels: 03L-906-022-CBE.clb
       Part No SW: 03L 906 019 CM    HW: 03L 906 022 TS
       Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000AG  9971  
       Revision: 12H02---    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0350078
       Shop #: WSC 26214 051 00000
       VCID: 78F4F3A30B625A8FAF-802C
    
    1 Fault Found:
    000897 - Glow Plug/Heater Indicator Circuit 
                   P0381 - 000 - Implausible Signal
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 196158 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2013.11.28
                        Time: 00:26:32
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 27.9C
                        Voltage: 12.31 V
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        Torque: 219.0 Nm
                        Temperature: 42.3C
    
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 
    
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    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
       Part No SW: 02E 300 057 A    HW: 02E 927 770 AL
       Component: GSG DSG AG6     511 2705  
       Revision: 05351112    Serial number: 00001011130184
       Coding: 0000024
       Shop #: WSC 01286 386 08256
       VCID: 1736D01F263CB5F746-8042
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 5N0-614-109-C6.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 614 109 AP    HW: 5N0 614 109 AP
       Component: J104   C6 450M VDE2 0005  
       Revision: --H07---    Serial number: 00000005590526
       Coding: 0005185
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 79F2F6A730684387D0-802C
    
    3 Faults Found:
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
                000 - -
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 226
                        Mileage: 196158 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2013.11.28
                        Time: 01:33:08
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Hex Value: 0x0000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
                        Voltage: 12.00 V
                        Bin. Bits: 00011111
                        Count: 215
                        Hex Value: 0x0000
    
    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
                000 - -
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 226
                        Mileage: 196158 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2013.11.28
                        Time: 01:33:08
    
    01324 - Control Module for All Wheel Drive (J492) 
                000 - -
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 226
                        Mileage: 196158 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2013.11.28
                        Time: 01:33:08
    
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 3C8-907-336.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 426 AN    HW: 7N0 907 426 AN
       Component: AC Manuell    H19 0404  
       Revision: 00001018    
       Coding: 0000001002
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueBHBVW36X A01010
       ROD: EV_ACManueBHBVW36X_VW36.rod
       VCID: 00049B439BB2124F97-8054
    
    1 Fault Found:
    9481200 - Refrigerant Pressure 
              B10AB F0 [009] - Too Low
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 226
                        Mileage: 196155 km
                        Date: 2019.07.08
                        Time: 04:22:08
    
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 937 086 N    HW: 5K0 937 086 N
       Component: BCM PQ35 M    021 0064  
       Revision: BJ021001    
       Coding: 6F180A1B80232EC4008800C11000854448010086524D8D60648040000040
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 3F8658BFAECCADB7AE-806A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5N1 955 119 A  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: WWS 030412 03  32  0010 
       Coding: 009795
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00907 - Intervention load Management 
                000 - -
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 226
                        Mileage: 196158 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2013.11.28
                        Time: 01:40:32
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            Term 15 On
                        Voltage: 12.00 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    01259 - Fuel Pump Relay (J17) 
                009 - Open or Short to Ground
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101001
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 226
                        Mileage: 196158 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2013.11.28
                        Time: 00:25:43
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            Term 15 On
                        Voltage: 12.30 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    
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    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 S    HW: 5N0 959 655 S
       Component: J234__20G VW10 HI   2118  
       Revision: 24017000    Serial number: 003L6P5XHBJB  
       Coding: 0012359
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 4D9A7277D4600F272C-8018
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5N0 959 339 B
       Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 003 0001
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000008A6T
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0005.03.120000300000650055†63
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 650055†6332MTS635430842 †63
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 30842 †6342MTS665450852 †63
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 50852 †6351HTS6FJI51AKR †63
    
       Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 51AKR †6361HTS6RFPF1AKR †63
    
       Subsystem 8 - Serial number: F1AKR †63727TS65Q7U0AKR †63
    
       Subsystem 9 - Serial number: U0AKR †63827TS6JIOSMAKJ 
    
       Subsystem 10 - Serial number: SMAKJ 
    
    1 Fault Found:
    03551 - Functional Restriction of Seat Occupied Recognition 
                000 - - - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11100000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 18
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 196155 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2013.11.28
                        Time: 00:35:36
    
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 501 AT    HW: 5K0 953 569 H
       Component: LENKS.MODUL   014 0140  
       Revision: FF010041    Serial number: 20120410301432
       Coding: 198A140000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
       ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
       VCID: 7CFCEFB3F75A76AFCB-8028
    
       Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 C    HW: 5K0 959 542 C  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H31 0033 
       Coding: 820000
    
    1 Fault Found:
    617735 - Selector Lever Park Position Lock Switch 
              B1162 11 [008] - Short to Ground
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 17
                        Reset counter: 11
                        Mileage: 196155 km
                        Date: 2019.07.08
                        Time: 00:01:31
    
    
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    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 5N0 920 972 E    HW: 5N0 920 972 E
       Component: KOMBI         H04 0617  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 211F00
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04114
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
       VCID: 356A3A9794F067E774-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 P    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: J533  Gateway H40 1623  
       Revision:   H40       Serial number: 260312F2000812
       Coding: 356002
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 3D7A22B7A4C0BFA7BC-8068
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
                000 - -
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 196158 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2013.11.28
                        Time: 01:38:19
    
    
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    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H04 0617  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03009
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
       VCID: 6AD0D9EB8DCEF81F29-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 37: Navigation (J794)       Labels:| 1K0-035-27x-37.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 035 274 B    HW: 1K0 035 274 B
       Component: RNS315-NAR    H35 0265  
       Serial number: VWZAZ2M4214383
       Coding: 0400040104000C000000100A
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_RNS315NARV2UDS A01004
       ROD: EV_RNS315NARV2UDS.rod
       VCID: 234EF4CF2A64E957AA-8076
    
       Data medium: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3AA 919 866 B
       Component: NAR_V2  0002 
    
    4 Faults Found:
    1048629 - Aux IN Socket 
              B1104 13 [009] - Open Circuit
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 226
                        Mileage: 196155 km
                        Date: 2019.07.08
                        Time: 04:24:40
    
    1048652 - Telephone Microphone 
              B1048 13 [009] - Open Circuit
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 226
                        Mileage: 196155 km
                        Date: 2019.07.08
                        Time: 04:24:40
    
    1048669 - Tuner for Satellite Radio 
              B11CF 53 [009] - Deactivated
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 226
                        Mileage: 196155 km
                        Date: 2019.07.08
                        Time: 04:24:40
    
    1048642 - Internal Control Module Memory Check Sum Error 
              B2000 42 [009] - General memory failure
              [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 196158 km
                        Date: 2019.07.08
                        Time: 01:18:56
    
    
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    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 701 F    HW: 3C0 959 793 B
       Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0503  
       Revision: 13110009    Serial number: 0004683325
       Coding: 0004B4
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
       ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X_VW36.rod
       VCID: 387433A383E29A8F6F-806C
    
       Slave Driver: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N0 959 703 G    HW: 3C0 959 794 D  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J388__TSG-HL  008 1504 
       Serial number: 00000006629752      
       Coding: 000490
    
    2 Faults Found:
    66048 - Motor for Front Window Regulator 
              B11EC 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 1
    
    131584 - Motor for Rear Window Regulator 
              B11EE 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 1
    
    
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    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 5N1-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 5N1 909 144 M    HW: 5N1 909 148 G
       Component: J500__APA-BS KL.286 1002  
       Revision: 1AH03836    Serial number: 00120870104201
       Coding: 0000258
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 3C7C2FB37FDAB6AF8B-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)       Labels:. 1K0-907-532.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 532     HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: EZE_2         H40 1623  
       Revision:   H40       Serial number: 260312F2000812
       Coding: 050B0500
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 6FE6C8FFBE2C1D377E-803A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R0 959 591 A    HW: 8R0 959 591 
       Component: J245EE20SKB13  H03 0220 
       Serial number: 0123456789ABCDEFGHIJ
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8R0 959 591 A    HW: 8R0 959 591 
       Component: J394EE20SKB13  H03 0220 
       Serial number: 0123456789ABCDEFGHIJ
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 702 F    HW: 3C0 959 792 B
       Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0503  
       Revision: 15110009    Serial number: 0004672738
       Coding: 0004B4
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
       ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X_VW36.rod
       VCID: 397236A7B8E8838790-806C
    
       Slave Passenger: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5N0 959 704 G    HW: 3C0 959 795 D  Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J389__TSG-HR  008 1504 
       Serial number: 00000006662726      
       Coding: 000490
    
    2 Faults Found:
    66048 - Motor for Front Window Regulator 
              B11EC 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 1
    
    131584 - Motor for Rear Window Regulator 
              B11EE 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 1
    
    
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    Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 3AA-907-801.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 907 801 H    HW: 3AA 907 801 H
       Component: J540 EPB4  VW-86594 0010  
       Revision:   H19       Serial number: 00000000097111
       Coding: 0026156
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       VCID: 36683D9B41F66CFF7D-8062
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module 
                000 - -
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01110000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 226
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Voltage: 11.90 V
                        Count: 101
                             -
                        Hex Value: 0x1270
                        Hex Value: 0x0082
                        Hex Value: 0x0101
    
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:36)--------------------------
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    I would guess that the gasoline cluster is the reason behind the P0381 code. That cluster likely has no provision for diesel-specific warning light (the "glow plug" light). I'm skeptical that there's actually a physical circuit for this. I would guess it's more likely a virtual circuit implemented via CAN messages, but the net result is the same: The ECU knows it can't turn that warning light on.

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    I would guess that the gasoline cluster is the reason behind the P0381 code. That cluster likely has no provision for diesel-specific warning light (the "glow plug" light). I'm skeptical that there's actually a physical circuit for this. I would guess it's more likely a virtual circuit implemented via CAN messages, but the net result is the same: The ECU knows it can't turn that warning light on.

    -Uwe-
    100 % not cluster issue
    you can install Petrol cluster to Diesel , and in reverse way ...no problem with that

    First - your GW show incorrect coding

    2nd - what VIN you keep in ECU ?
    Did you adapt that ECU to your VIN, or just did IMMO OFF? to start engine


    3rd - not use if Jetta talk good with EPB as she never see that in PQ35 , and you also have issue in EPB

    Some errors will go if you write proper VIN to new ECU,.
    similar is with PQ35 ABS , when VIN is a part of coding , and Engine type too
    Even if ABS is use Cluster VIN, ECU still broadcasting VIN
    If VIN is mismach - ABS can freak out because it see different platform

    at the end .... if you not fix it , better use Passat ECU ...or Sharan , but B6/CC Passat with EPB, not NMS Passat US....

    they use TRW ABS system and EPB

    you can definitely stay away from cluster , this only "display "
    Last edited by Spacewalker; 07-10-2019 at 12:52 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacewalker View Post
    100 % not cluster issue
    Well, I did say, "I would guess". And I've been known to guess wrong!

    -Uwe-
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    @Spacewalker

    P0381 Glow Plug/Heater Indicator Circuit Malfunction

    UWE you are correct , Cluster is problem because missing Glow plug signal in cluster . I told him this last time that cluster has to be modified to work with TDI ECU when he did other Tiguan conversion few years ago.

    As far as VIN you can see since he has VIN form Jetta so ABS will complain about this .Most likely he has Immo off
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    Did hundreds of cluster swap, some Petrol have no LED for DPF , and they working after SW conversion to diesel, and ECU not show any error
    dont think so
    I am almost 100% sure LED is on the PCB, just need proper EEprom from Diesel , so is much easier to play with that cluster , just with proper SW
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetta ,97 View Post
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    P0381 Glow Plug/Heater Indicator Circuit Malfunction

    UWE you are correct , Cluster is problem because missing Glow plug signal in cluster . I told him this last time that cluster has to be modified to work with TDI ECU when he did other Tiguan conversion few years ago.

    As far as VIN you can see since he has VIN form Jetta so ABS will complain about this .Most likely he has Immo off
    Thank you Jetta, 97 and Spacewalker for your replies. It seems like you are contradicting each other on the cluster. The last conversion Jetta, 97 combined parts of the donor Golf IC with the Tig IC as they were fairly common to each other. On this conversion the donor Jetta's cluster was very basic and did not look the same. That's why I picked up a cluster from a Euro Tig TDI. My thinking is that would solve issues with the dual gas tank senders, have the correct tach and the GP light.

    Changing the VIN in the ECU makes since to try and clear up the GW and possibly the ABS. Will the cluster need the VIN correction too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacewalker View Post
    Did hundreds of cluster swap, some Petrol have no LED for DPF , and they working after SW conversion to diesel, and ECU not show any error
    dont think so
    I am almost 100% sure LED is on the PCB, just need proper EEprom from Diesel , so is much easier to play with that cluster , just with proper SW
    Correct, but still have Gasoline Sw in it , that why I said need to be MODIFIED.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vwztips View Post
    Thank you Jetta, 97 and Spacewalker for your replies. It seems like you are contradicting each other on the cluster. The last conversion Jetta, 97 combined parts of the donor Golf IC with the Tig IC as they were fairly common to each other. On this conversion the donor Jetta's cluster was very basic and did not look the same. That's why I picked up a cluster from a Euro Tig TDI. My thinking is that would solve issues with the dual gas tank senders, have the correct tach and the GP light.

    Changing the VIN in the ECU makes since to try and clear up the GW and possibly the ABS. Will the cluster need the VIN correction too?
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    Just a follow up to my issues. Marin (Jetta, 97 helped me work through the issues and now everything is working and talking to each other as they should.
    Just a few notes:

    Needed Tiguan VIN # in donor Jetta ECU

    Used stock Tiguan IC which Marin reworked with Passat TDI foils, so the tach and GP lights are correct. Also required some internal coding to work with the electronic brake


    Coded ABS module with 5185 code


    Now it is all good. Just have to get used to driving a DSG...…...
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