2003 Eurovan with a multitude of issues

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I have a 2003 Eurovan that has been sitting for 6 months. It had a dead battery and I installed a new one. Fired it up and the Check Engine light is flashing intermittently, the ABS and TC lights are on, oil pressure light is on, no transmission indicator and the tach was sort of working but after a minute, it quit. I scanned it and came up with this:
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VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4437.4
Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
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Note: All modules plugged in

VIN:    License Plate: BR-549


Chassis Type: 70 (7D - VW Transporter/Multivan (1996 > 2004))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 17 18 19 22 25 35 37 56
 
VIN:    Mileage: 221610km-137702miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 022-906-032-AXK.lbl
   Part No: 022 906 032 AF
   Component: MOTRONIC ME7.1  G01 0003  
   Coding: 00013
   Shop #: WSC 02757  
   VCID: 4FEEA2388F220F3214-51CE

2 Faults Found:
18057 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1649 - 35-00 - Missing Message from ABS Controller
18058 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1650 - 35-00 - Missing Message from Instrument Cluster
Readiness: 0110 1101

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1J0-909-60x-VW3.lbl
   Part No: 1J0 909 603 CK
   Component: AIRBAG VW3 -        V04  
   Coding: 17227
   Shop #: WSC 02757  
   VCID: 74A40DD446440CEAC9-4B7A

1 Fault Found:
00588 - Airbag Igniter; Driver Side (N95) 
            32-00 - Resistance Too High

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 7D0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 7D0 920 902 T
   Component: T4-KOMBIINSTR. VDO V01   
   Coding: 02435
   Shop #: WSC 02757  
   VCID: 3522F0D00DBE55E23E-5160

3 Faults Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            49-00 - No Communications
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01315 - Transmission Control Module 
            49-00 - No Communications

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901 
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001  
   Coding: 00003
   Shop #: WSC 02757  
   VCID: 70AC01C4325C30CA2D-5160

3 Faults Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module 
            49-00 - No Communications
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01315 - Transmission Control Module 
            49-00 - No Communications

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 6X0-953-257.lbl
   Part No: 6X0 953 257 
   Component: IMMO                0008  
   Coding: 00001
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 7DB228F0750E4DA2B6-4B00
   WV2NB47043H006579     VWZ1Z0B2085499

No fault code found.

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Address 35: Centr. Locks        Labels: 7D0-959-800.lbl
   Part No: 7D0 959 800 C
   Component:    Funksteuergerát  0001  
   Coding: 00001
   Shop #: WSC 02757  
   VCID: 2D12D8B0E5EE1D2246-4B1E

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 02:21, VBatt start/end: 12.3V/12.3V. VIgn 0.0V)------

After spending the day, unhooking each item one at a time and scanning, I was still getting oddball errors. Finally I was going to start checking the CAN wiring and see if there's a problem. I knew the colors of the CAN and that they are twisted pairs. I started by pulling the fuse panel down. I found a bridge that was plugged in to the right of relay 18. It had four twisted pairs plugged into it and I figured they were the four different items (ECU, TCU, ABS, Instrument Cluster) that are for the CAN. I unplugged them and one had green corrosion on it. Cleaned all of them (just to be safe) plugged them back in and everything went back to normal. The plug with the corrosion was the one that went to the instrument cluster.

Previously, I found that the G201 brake pressure sensor was throwing a code. On the Eurovan, that sensor is mounted on the precharge pump and the same as on a e46 BMW IX model (they use a Bosch ABS system). It was not the sensor, that wire is in the perfect spot for mice to chew through, thus they did.

Many people do not cover Eurovans, so this is just put here because inevitably, it's going to happen to someone else down the road. I've already read some things that sound similar but they were a few years old and never resolved. Typically the responses were "You got to replace the (insert part name here)."
 
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Vehicle Identification No.WV2NB47043H006579
ModelEuroVan Multivan
EU
Date of production15.05.2002
Model year2003
Sales type7DCMA3
Engine CodeAXK
Transmission CodeEQJ
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Hello John.....

https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthread.php?5918-Testbench-setup&p=168196&viewfull=1#post168196

Sounds familiar did you see this aforementioned link?

JPPSG

https://forums.ross-tech.com/showth...essional-Problem-Solver-Guide-quot-JPPSG-quot

Check for FOD! & CHECK FUSES!

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Post pictures of your TCU please.......Inspect it!

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Special editionsE0AWithout special action equipment
Vehicle class differentiation
units/platform components0CNVehicle class differentiation -7D0-
Mounting fixture for oxygen bottle5P0Without mounting fixture for oxygen
bottle
Different vehicle equipment5EAno deviation in vehicle equipment
Emission standard0GLEmission standard TLEV
Trailer hitch1D0without trailer towing
airbag4UBAirbag for NAR
Aktivkohlebehälter / Ottopartikelfilter1E1Activated carbon canister
Storage compartment3Z0Without stowage box
Storage compartments, cab5FGStorage compartment on dashboard, center
Armrests for front seats4S1Armrests for both front seats
Aerials8L1Bright short-rod antenna
Exterior mirror setting6XDExterior mirrors, power-adjustable/
heated
Interior light in driver compartment9GBInterior light with switch-off delay and
door pillar switch
Left exterior mirror5SGLeft exterior mirror, flat
Right exterior mirror5RRRight exterior mirror, convex (US)
Drive type1X0Front-wheel drive
"Multimedia"video/DVD/notebook connection9WCWithout "Multimedia" in vehicle
Final drive/gear ratio0ZNGear ratio, high geared
Equipment levelsA8Emultivan
batteriesJ0LBattery 340 A (70 Ah)
Brake type, front1LBSilver caliper
Components with special surface6FEBody-colored exterior mirror housings
and tailgate handle
Beverage holders4M0Without beverage holder
Floor coverings in cab5ADCarpet floor covering in cab
Floor covering in passenger/luggage compartment5BGTough carpet floor covering
in passenger compartment
Component part sets with
country-specific design requirementsB0DAssembly kit, USA corresponding vehicle
version (not California), various parts
vehicle tools and jack1S1vehicle tools and jack
Brake systems1ATelectronic satbility programme -ESP-
Owner's manuals0VMInformation kit in American English
Heated washer nozzles9T1Heated washer nozzles in front
Tail and side gates5S0Without dropsides
CD ROM/DVD/SD card7QAWithout CD/DVD for navigation
CD changer/CD player7A0Without CD changer/CD player
C-rails6L0Without C-rails
General operating permit, alterationsC07Operating permit, alteration
Roof types3R3Pop-up roof.3 fönster.
Jordgubbs röd canvas.
Shock absorption/suspension, chassis1BAFederung/Daempfung, standard
roof turn signals9H0Without roof turn signal lights
Roof insert in cab3EAWithout roof insert in cab (closed)
Roof insert for in passenger/luggage compartment3JAWithout roof insert in the luggage/passenger comp.
Differential lock1Y0without differential lock
Roof trim5CAWithout roof interior trim
4th row of seats3WAWithout bench seat
Insert for the filling up of unleaded
fuel/fuel type2G1Insert for the filling up of unleaded
fuel
Theft protection system7AAElectronic immobilizer
Identification lights, roof9KAWithout identification lights
Interference suppression8E2Local interference suppression for FM/AM
radio reception
2nd row of seats3USLeft seat and right folding seat
facing backwards
Antidrum measures2N3Additional sound deadening measures
in cab and passenger compartment
Manufacturing sequence differentiation0FAStandard manufacturing sequence
Tachograph/logbook9NAWithout tachograph
chassis/running gear2E316-inch chassis
window regulator4R1Power windows
Malfunction display9HBMalfunction display (CARB diagnostics)
Windows, cab4CCCab side window
in heat-insulating glass
Suspension, chassis1P4Suspension for lowered chassis
Hood and trunk stay5NCStandard tailgate vent lock
Fresh air unit/air outlet6LDFresh air unit with center vent and
recirculation door, without load/
passenger compartment ventilation
Headlight activation8K4Separate daytime running lights
NAR
Antifreeze1C2Antifreeze up to -35 degree celsius
tolerance up to -40 degree C
Vehicle specificationsF0ANo special purpose vehicle, standard
equipment
Curtains/roller blinds5G0Without curtains
Interior noise suppression measures3W6Additional interior noise suppression
Alternators8GLAlternator 120 A
Transmission types/gearshift mechanisms0G2Selector lever
Base engineT0M6-cyl. petrol engine 2.8 l assembly 022.B
cruise control system8T2Electronic cruise control system (CCS)
Transmission specificationsG0E4-speed automatic transmission
Brackets3P0Without bracket for first aid kit and
warning triangle
Retaining cables for tail and side gates5T0Without retaining cables for tailgate
Center high-mounted stop light8R1Center high-mounted stop lamp
Rear gates/tailgate3RCTailgate with window aperture
Rear window wiper and washer system8M1Rear window wiper washer system with
intermittent wipe
Rear window insert4HFRear window in heat-insulating glass,
heated
Heating and air-conditioning system9ABManually controlled air conditioning
system
Heizungs / Klimaanlagenbetätigung im
Fahrgastraum5Y1Additional heating/air conditioning
actuation in passenger compartment
Rear side window for load or passenger
compartment, left4FDSide window in heat-insulating glass
in load/passenger compartment, rear left
Rear side window for load or passenger
compartment, right4JDSide window in heat-insulating glass
in load/passenger compartment, rear
right
Headlamps8BRHalogen headlamps for driving on the
right, US design with turn signal and
front position lamps
hydraulic pump2BAWithout hydraulic pump
Interior lights in passenger and load
compartment9CAWithout interior light in the passenger/load comp.
Instrument clustersU1FInstrument cluster w/ tachometer, seat
belt reminder, clock and OBD (SI engine
only) mph speedometer
Instrument panel4N1Padded dashboard
Sticker (customized or special edition)0KWDecals on B- and C-pillar
Body styleK4Cbus
coolbox1W1coolbox
child safety4H2Child lock for sliding doors
in passenger compartment
Folding table1U1Folding table
Climatic zones0Y3Cold zones
Compressor2AAWithout air conditioning compressor or
preparation for air conditioning
compressor
headrest for seat, rear3Q2Rear head restraints
with tilt and hight adjustment
Head restraints3J7Tilt- and height-adjustable head
restraints for front seats
Fuel quantity for initial filling1Z3Double initial standard fuel filling
Clutch actuation1K0Without clutch actuation
Paint preservative/transit coating5K5Transportation protective film
(instead of paint preservation)
Steering system arrangementL0LLeft-hand drive
steering wheels2PGSteering wheel
Additional airborne sound damping measures1J1Sound deadening package
Speaker installation8RL6 speakers (passive)
Leather parts3HAWithout leather parts scope
Air cleaner (engine)1L0Standard air cleaner
Headlight range control8Q0without beam length regulator
VersionsFM3Multivan version
Multi-function display/trip computer9Q0Without multi-function display/
trip computer
Engine specificationsMG56-cylinder SI engine 2.8 l/150 kW VR6
24V, BOSCH motr., VIM, EU3/TLEV
base engine is T0M
Left vanity mirror4SDVanity mirror, left, illuminated
Right vanity mirror4TDVanity mirror, right, illuminated
Navigation device7Q0without navigation system
rear fog lamp8TAwitout rear fog lamp
Front fog lamp/additional headlamp8WDIntegrated front fog light
Payloads0J2Standard payload
Pick-up bodywork/cargo area5HAwithout floor plate
Hubcaps1NLTrims for alloy wheels
WheelsC5XAlloy wheels 7J x 16 H2
ET 49
Radios8YARadio for USA
Spare wheel mounts1B1Standard spare wheel bracket
tireHE1225/60 R16 102H Alloy wheels, all-weather tyres
Tire suppliersV0GMICHELIN tires
Spare wheel/breakdown kit1G2Spare wheel with full tyre, steel
Wheelbases0E1Short wheelbase
Restraint systems, front4QLAir bag and 3-point seat belts front
with retractor and clamping reel right
Surround sound combination/rotating beacon light9LAWithout rotating emergency lights
W33"Weekender" package for USA/Canada
ZD2tinted windows, sliding window with fly
screen in passenger compartment
Special labels/plates0SAno special stickers/labels
Hinges for side and tail gates5V0Without hinges for side-/tailboard
Sicherungsblech für Vorhängeschloss6K0Without retaining plates for padlocks
Locking mechanism for boot lid/cover
rear4E3Without tailgate/trunk lid operation
from inside
Seat belts for 3rd row of seats
passenger compartment4VAWithout seat belts
in 3rd row of seats
Seat belts for 1st row of seats
passenger compartment4PLTwo lap belts with retractor, 1st row
of seats
Front seat, left3TNLeft seat in cab with lumbar support
Front seat, right3SNRight seat in cab with lumbar support
Seat belt check9P7Visual and acoustic seat belt reminder,
electric contact in buckle
Seat storage, 2nd row in passenger compartment4WAWithout storage compartments in 2nd row
of seats
seat coversN0UCut pile seat covering
seat heater4A3seat heating for front seats separat controlable
Side interior lighting passenger/luggage compartment5DMComfort side trim for Multivan
in passenger compartment
Horns8Y1Two-tone horn
Stapelwand im Laderaum3E0W/o stacking panel in load compartment
Supertone system and tone sequence
control9J0Without supertone system and tone
sequence control
power outlet7B4Four 12-volt sockets
in passenger compartment
Bumper2JGbumper in color of vehicle
Rear stabilizer0BBRear stabilizer
Front stabilizer bar0ABFront stabilizer bar
Seat storage, 1st row in passenger compartment4G0W/o storage trays, first row of seats
Headlamp washer system8X0Without headlamp washer system
mud flaps6N0without mud flaps
Seat belts for 2nd row of seats
passenger compartment4RNTwo 3-point seat belts w/ clamping reel
and one static lap belt in 2nd row of
seats
Nameplate set0QXName plate set in base trim
with black guide rail
Door storage compartments in front3YNDoor storage compartments in front,
lockable on the left
Doors in cab0D2Reinforced cab doors
Door and lid locking system4K1Central locking w/ radio remote control
Doors, passenger/load compartment, left5Q0Without door in load/passenger
compartment left (closed sideboard)
Doors, passenger/load compartment, right5R6Right sliding door, reinforced
in passenger/luggage compartment
Type approval countries/countries with
special requirementsB34Legal requirements USA
Carrier frequency for remote control5D2Carrier frequency 315 MHz
Partition3CAwithout partition
Step illumination9N2Step illumination with on/off control
Door and side trim panels3LQDoor trim panel
Speedometer cable and seal8CDSpeedometer sensor with seal
(electronic speedometer sensor)
Front underbody guard1SAWithout additional front underbody guard
Identification plates1EBwithout identification plate
Underbody protection5U0Standard underbody cladding
Delivery equipment2A0Without delivery equipment
Front endAC1Long front end
Preparation for identification lights9QAWithout identification light preparation
Top frame and tarpaulin5GAWithout convertible roof frame and cover
Front side window for load or passenger
compartment, left4DKSliding window in heat-insulating glass
with fly screen in load/passenger
compartment, front, left
Front side window for load or passenger
compartment, right4EKSliding window in heat-insulating glass
with fly screen in load/passenger
compartment, front right
Telephone / telematics9W0Without car phone preparation/
installation
Lashing rings/rails for load restraint6B3Lashing rings for tough floor covering
LongLife Service RegimeQG0without service interval extension
Windshield Glass4GFWindshield in heat-insulating glass
Strip and films all-around5M0Without warning strip and films
Antennenleitung für Funk8G0Without aerial wire for radio
Second battery/battery installation8FDSecond battery with cut-off relay
Additional tires (snow tires)2WAwithout spare tyre
Additional ventilation system7J0Without additional ventilation system
Second alternator8HAWithout second alternator or preparation
Additional child seat anchors3B1Child seat anchors acc. to Canadian
requirements
3rd row of seats3VH3-seat bench seat with reclining fitting
Additional dust seals6U0Without additional seals outside
Auxiliary heating system9M0Without auxiliary heater/parking heater
Second heat exchanger6AESecond heat exchanger with stone guard
 
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Thing is. I grew up working on Porsches and Audis. My father had a Porsche/Audi repair shop and i was the free labor. If there's one thing that made me really good at repairing electrical items it was those cars. Back in the day there were so many things and burned up fusee panels, bad grounds and the whatnot, you could tell what you needed to do right away. I bypassed thousands of fuel pump fuses. Then learning how to braze a wire on a galvanized tail light ground plate then running it to a bolt somewhere in the trunk was a specialty.

Over the years with these systems way better than the old days and knowing that a module can really clog up the CAN, I went that route first. Then by luck (and a bit of knowledge) got me to figure out got me to the solution. I'm happy that the VCDS helped me figure out that I needed to go firther instead of the shotgun approach and just change parts.

Also, I am well versed in rodents and the damage they can do. I seen this with 911's all of the time where people had a battery tender for the winter and then the front trunk was open a bit to allow them into there to have a nice home. If the owner had dry dog food, they brought that in also. Best story is this. We had more than one Porsche 928 that came in where rodents set up shop in the air cleaner. If you know how they are routed, it makes sense. We had a customer bring in a car with a dead battery. The car had been sitting for a year. We put in a battery and got it running. After about 5 minutes of it running, it slowed down and died. Wouldn't restart. We took off the air filter housing and the rodent nest that was on top of the air filter, gut sucked into the engine. Only option was to clean it ut as good as possible. Get it running and set it outside because that nest went through the engine and into the Cats. It took about an hour of driving to not make the car smoke like a forest fire and smell like it.

Today, I fabricate wiring harnesses for motorsports, so I run into items where the harness is fine but the unit is faulty. Anyway, I figured someone else will run into this situation and probably a good thing to point them to this thread.
 
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Dont pat yourself on the back too much, it's not warranted.
FYI: I'm an asshole just busting your balls, thank you for sharing.

However, you didn't post a complete final auto-scan and in the scan the TCM was vacant.

If you wanted to make a how to thread there is a how to section.

The K line is what gets jammed up by other modules when FUBAR in the daisy chain, as does LIN in loop. CAN is the twisted set for HIGH/LOW and your vehicle controllers supports K line with CAN W for what that 03 EUV has.

Again thank you for sharing.... :p

If water ingress was in CAN tree to cluster gateway, it is most likely elsewhere.

I insist you look further and only for your own benefit.
 
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