Q5 B8 - enable HBA with front camera

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Hello,

i am trying to enable the HBA via the front camera. My car has lane assist and front radar (i know, probably not related) ex-factory but no HBA; has active (swiveling) xenon headlights and i was wondering if i can enable the HBA without adding any extra hardware.

I have googled and stumbled upon a recipe to retrofit but it all referenced the additional module at diagnostic address 20, which of course doesn't exist in my configuration. Is it possible to have the functionality via the existing camera?
 
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Please post an Auto-Scan so people can see exactly how the vehicle is currently equipped.

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Of course, there you go:


Code:
Monday,27,May,2019,15:16:44:32319
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64)
Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUZZZ8R0FA139145   License Plate: 
Mileage: 40990km-25470mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 8R-AU48 (8R0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 13 14 15 16 17 19 1B 30 36 3C 42 44 46 47
          52 53 56 57 5C 5F 62 6C 6D 72

VIN: WAUZZZ8R0FA139145   Mileage: 40990km-25470miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: Malfunction 0010
14-Susp. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1B-Active Steering -- Status: OK 0000
30-Special Function II -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
3C-Lane Change -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
57-TV Tuner -- Status: OK 0000
5C-Lane Maintain. -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CNCD)       Labels:. 06L-907-115-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 8R2 907 115 B    HW: 8T2 907 115 
   Component: 2.0l R4 TFSI  H13 0003  
   Revision: --H13---    
   Coding: 2A2A00322446010B2000
   Shop #: WSC 06208 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS0208R2907115B 001004
   ROD: EV_ECM20TFS0208R2907115B.rod
   VCID: 35614864943F49E23E-8060

4 Faults Found:
17178 - Databus 
          U1123 00 [032] - Received Error Message
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

21417 - Internal Control Module Error 
          P2610 00 [032] - Engine Shut-down Timer
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

23129 - Implausible Data Received from ABS Control Module 
          U0415 00 [032] - -
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

15418 - Cam Adjustment Actuator B; Cylinder 3 
          P11AC 00 [096] - Implausible Signal
          Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels:| 0BK-927-156.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 927 158 AT    HW: 0BK 927 156 AM
   Component: 0BK 20TFSIRdW H19 1004  
   Revision: --H19---    
   Coding: 000001
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAL551211 002022
   ROD: EV_TCMAL551211_002_AU48.rod
   VCID: 0F2DDA8CD623533254-805A

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 8R0-907-379-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 907 379 BA    HW: 8R0 907 379 BA
   Component: ESP8 quattro  H09 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 2D6DCC01
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 000FE9B0937D3C4ADD-8054

1 Fault Found:
02214 - Tire Pressure Warning 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 25
                    Mileage: 40993 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.05.27
                    Time: 14:57:13

             Freeze Frame:
                    Hex Value: 0x3100
                    Hex Value: 0x4006
                    Hex Value: 0x1221
                    Hex Value: 0x1AB4
                    Hex Value: 0x0000


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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 KH    HW: 8K0 907 064 KH
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H15 0711  
   Revision: 00002001    
   Coding: 05A54000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 000FE9B0937D3C4ADD-8054

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 8K1 820 043 AQ    HW: 8K1 820 043 AQ
   Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H04 0122  
   Revision: C1000000    Serial number: 01240420150267
   Coding: 642102C080
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 77FD826CC6B37BF2EC-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 8K0-907-063.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 DJ    HW: 8K0 907 063 DJ
   Component: BCM1 1.0      H16 0103  
   Revision: 09016001    Serial number: 00001060222601
   Coding: 260000108034AFF21981408300001D0D0F9CC70A26090201000008004401070200020034000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 7AFB9B58F5A1669A93-802E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R1 955 119 A    HW: 8R1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: WWS416 150416  H12 0050 
   Serial number: 90243014150409144508
   Coding: 01DD13

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 C    HW: 8U0 955 559 B  Labels: 8U0-955-559.CLB
   Component: G397_RLFS  H06 0004 
   Serial number: 20256754            
   Coding: 02005C

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AS    HW: 8K0 941 531 AS
   Component: E1 - LDS  H03 0031 
   Serial number: 00000000000304151193

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 3D0 941 329     HW: 3D0 941 329 
H05 0012 

   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 3D0 941 329     HW: 3D0 941 329 
H05 0012 

   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 658     HW: 4H0 907 658 
   Component: AQ_Hum_Sensor  H03 0003 
   Serial number: 0A3983A7000000000001

No fault code found.

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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 8R0 907 561 A    HW: 8R0 907 561 A
   Component: ACC3          H11 0110  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 00CFB0
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 377D426C8633BBF22C-8062

2 Faults Found:
00234 - Sensor for Automatic Distance Regulation Misadjusted 
            000 -  - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 154
                    Mileage: 33989 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.09.28
                    Time: 18:29:34

             Freeze Frame:
                    Temperature: 21.0°C
                    Voltage: 14.46 V
                    Hex Value: 0x0035
                    Speed: 54.0 km/h
                    Lateral Accel.: -0.46 m/s^2

03263 - Functional Restriction 
            000 -  -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 73
                    Reset counter: 64
                    Mileage: 33748 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.08.22
                    Time: 09:22:59

             Freeze Frame:
                    Temperature: 26.0°C
                    Voltage: 14.08 V
                    Hex Value: 0x002F
                    Speed: 39.6 km/h
                    Lateral Accel.: 1.37 m/s^2


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Address 14: Susp. Elect. (J250)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8R0 907 364 C    HW: 8K0 907 364 
   Component: DAEMPFUNGS-SG H09 0054  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 09031500190002
   Coding: 070181
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 3A7B5B58B521A69AD3-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:* 8R0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 959 655 G    HW: 8R0 959 655 G
   Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H48 0610  
   Serial number: 003JPDC32TCW  
   Coding: 30483531313030303030554A304C38523053
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaAU10SMEAU416 002004
   ROD: EV_AirbaAU10SMEAU416.rod
   VCID: 489F3190F3CDC40A55-801C

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 6334MSME505D2D73L

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 6344MSME505D6017B

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Serial number: 6352QSME435350704

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Serial number: 6362QSME4153126EE

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 63732SME0550246CX

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 63832SME0850437E+

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:. 8K0-953-568.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 953 568 M    HW: 8K0 953 568 M
   Component: Lenks.Modul   H04 0005  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 90372ODK000MG 
   Coding: 0000DF
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 448725A0C7E5E06AB9-8010

   Component: E221 - MFL  H03 0004 

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:. 8R0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 920 932 A    HW: 8R0 920 932 A
   Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H36 0567  
   Revision: 00100000    Serial number: 03961NG4G     
   Coding: 13E622007F010008070000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 34677560974550EA09-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 8T0-907-468.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 907 468 P    HW: 8R0 907 468 D
   Component: GW-BEM 5CAN-M H11 0060  
   Revision: 1Z120030    Serial number: 3041Z1541604F5
   Coding: 80CF07FF00
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 4C970D80EFB5282A71-8018

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R0 915 181 C    HW: 8R0 915 181 C
   Component: J367-BDMHella  H07 8043 
   Serial number: 9990056403          

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 663 B    HW: 8K0 959 663 B
   Component: J532_DCDCStab  H05 0006 
   Serial number: 15112001765021200410

No fault code found.

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Address 1B: Active Steering (J792)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 144 M    HW: 8K0 907 144 M
   Component: DYNAMIKLENK.  H06 0730  
   Revision: 52001005    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 020100
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 39794454B027AD82DA-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 30: Special Function II (J843)       Labels: 8K0-907-440.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 440 B    HW: 8K0 907 440 
   Component: STS           H04 0020  
   Revision: S0H04000    Serial number: 00000000121264
   Coding: 01010101000000000001000102
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 2D516004746F012246-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8R0 959 760 D    HW: 8R0 959 760 B
   Component: MEM-FS        H07 0077  
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00000145016520
   Coding: 01581B00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 428B23B8DDF1EE5A8B-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 3C: Lane Change (J769)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-566.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 907 566 B    HW: 8T0 907 566 B
   Component: SWA Master    H05 0071  
   Serial number: 0365958709
   Coding: 010311
   Shop #: WSC 06334 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LaneChangAssis 001020
   ROD: EV_LaneChangAssis_AU21.rod
   VCID: 3F8D2A4CA60383B2E4-806A

   Lane Change Assistant 2: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 907 568 B    HW: 8T0 907 568 B
   Component: SWA Slave  H05 0071 
   Serial number: 0365767652          
   Coding: 010311

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 8K0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 793 R    HW: 8K0 959 793 P
   Component: TSG FA        H02 0510  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000146626221 
   Coding: 011D12205E20440004
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 4FAD1A8C1EA3133214-801A

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 8K0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 909 144 P    HW: 8R0 909 144 B
   Component: RCEPS         H43 0510  
   Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 0020636351
   Coding: 010001010001
   Shop #: WSC 06334 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RCEPSAU48X 008018
   ROD: EV_RCEPSAU48X_008.rod
   VCID: 458138A4C4DFD962AE-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-46.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 KH    HW: 8K0 907 064 KH
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H15 0711  
   Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0365987650    
   Coding: 013A0E20A0B938958730053680040047
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 000FE9B0937D3C4ADD-8054

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8K0 951 177 
   Component: DWA-Sensor  H02 0040 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 7N0 959 591 B    HW: 7N0 959 591 B
   Component: J245EE04SKB03  H03 0090 
   Serial number: 0123456789ABCDEFGHIJ

   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 7N0 959 591 B    HW: 7N0 959 591 B
   Component: J394EE04SKB03  H03 0090 
   Serial number: 0123456789ABCDEFGHIJ

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels:. 8T0-035-223-BOM.clb
   Part No SW: 8T1 035 223 A    HW: 8T1 035 223 A
   Component: DSP Prem      H05 0030  
   Revision: 00005001    Serial number: 94813043142906
   VCID: 2D516004746F012246-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 8K0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 792 R    HW: 8K0 959 792 P
   Component: TSG BF        H02 0510  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000146635302 
   Coding: 011D12205E20440004
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 4E93078819A91A3A1F-801A

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake (----)       Labels: 8K0-907-801-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 N    HW: 8K0 907 801 J
   Component: EPB-4         H02 0005  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 00000001652116
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ParkiBrake 001028
   ROD: EV_ParkiBrake_AU48.rod
   VCID: 3A7B5B58BD21A69AD3-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (R)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 4G0 035 061 Q    HW: 4G0 035 061 
   Component: Radio U DAB   H60 0150  
   Revision: AB001007    Serial number: 109DT0F8031174
   Coding: 010103010000000001
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 2B556E1C4A7B0F1258-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 57: TV Tuner (R78)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4G0 919 129 C    HW: 4G0 919 129 
   Component: NGTV-DVB      H04 0690  
   Revision: R0043000    Serial number: 06801301904101
   Coding: 1C000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 2D516004746F012246-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 5C: Lane Maintain.        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 8T0 907 217 A    HW: 4E0 907 217 C
   Component: J759 HC             0040  
   Revision: 00H08006    Serial number: 60021542200152
   Coding: 0033004
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 377D426C4633BBF22C-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:. 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
   Part No SW: 8R1 035 670 J    HW: 8R1 035 670 J
   Component: H-BNT-EU      H49 0897  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 516DZ0F7520716
   Coding: 160100060005A9EF7D80CB5E00000403040000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 3A7B5B58B521A69AD3-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 CH
   Component: EUR 2014  2004 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8R0 919 604 A    HW: 8R0 919 604 A
   Component: DU7 High  H42 0104 
   Serial number: A130DM0F3330374     

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 611 L    HW: 8T0 919 611 C
   Component: E0380 Bedient  H02 0030 
   Serial number: 00000002210214      

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8R0 060 961 G
   Component: CD-Database  5950 

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 8K0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 G    HW: 8K0 959 795 D
   Component: TSG HL        H01 0510  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000146601435 
   Coding: 010C12204020240004
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 46833FA8F1D9D27AA7-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 8T0-907-441.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 907 441 A    HW: 4L0 907 441 B
   Component: J772__Rearview      0040  
   Revision: --H09---    Serial number: 525PA8-JA2A2DX
   Coding: 1021010
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 34677560574550EA09-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (J605)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 8R0 827 851 D    HW: 8R0 827 851 D
   Component: J605  Master  H56 0330  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 8R0827851D    
   VCID: 3D715044A40F91A2F6-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8R0 827 852 D    HW: 8R0 827 852 D
   Component: J756  Slave  H56 0330 
   Serial number: 8R0827852D          

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 8K0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 G    HW: 8K0 959 795 D
   Component: TSG HR        H01 0510  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000146601388 
   Coding: 010C12204020240004
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 46833FA8F1D9D27AA7-8012

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:50)--------------------------
 
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On the Audi B8 platform, the Lane Assist and HBA setup seems to be quite different - the 5C camera only handles lane keeping and 20 camera handles HBA. Other Audis of this originating era (mid to late 2000s) also have HBA this way so I don't think you can set this up otherwise.
 
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Not possible.
HBA does need unit 20.
 
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Thanks everyone. I am going to have it anyway, mirrors with HBA cameras pop out on auction portals quite cheap - it's just a temporary lack of luck since my interior is black and all i found were gray or beige. Will the unit from another B8 platform (like A4) do, or i need to get something specific to a Q5.

Are they bound to the vehicle via CP? Or coding will suffice by itself? I do have a licensed ODIS instance however currently no GeKo rights and application is quite painful so that would spare me the visit to the dealers.

Apologies for somewhat trivial questions, but for years i was a Merc guy and it's first time i am into modification of another brand.

Thanks,
 
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Thanks everyone. I am going to have it anyway, mirrors with HBA cameras pop out on auction portals quite cheap - it's just a temporary lack of luck since my interior is black and all i found were gray or beige. Will the unit from another B8 platform (like A4) do, or i need to get something specific to a Q5.

Are they bound to the vehicle via CP? Or coding will suffice by itself? I do have a licensed ODIS instance however currently no GeKo rights and application is quite painful so that would spare me the visit to the dealers.

Apologies for somewhat trivial questions, but for years i was a Merc guy and it's first time i am into modification of another brand.

Thanks,
The HBA mirror part number for a 2015 Q5 is 8T0857511AD with color code 4PK for the black one. It appears to be from the A5 B8 but ETKA also reveals the A4 B8 using earlier Q5 interior mirrors, so something from the A4 might also be suitable. AFAIK the mirror is not part of CP but modules would need coding as it's on the CAN.
 
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