Harsh shifting and "slipping" in 07 2.5 auto Jetta

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I have a 2007 2.5 Wolfsburg Jetta with a 6 speed auto transmission. It has been raving high and then shifting very harshly (sometimes it feels like I've been rear ended). It has been throwing following fault code.

17114 - Gear Ratio Monitoring
P0730 - 003 - Incorrect Gear Ratio - Intermittent

I have a replacement tranny from a 2006 and I can swap them, BUT I would LOVE to just replace the valve body if possible as it is a LOT less difficult. Thoughts?

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Thursday,13,June,2019,17:31:22:41190
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64(VMWare)
VCDS Version 19.6.0.6 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4505.4
Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
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VIN: 3VWEG71K57M125932   License Plate: 
Mileage: 271940km-168975mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 1K-VW35 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 65 72

VIN: 3VWEG71K57M125932   Mileage: 271940km-168975miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: Malfunction 1010
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06A-906-032-BGP.lbl
   Part No SW: 07K 906 032 Q    HW: 07K 906 032 Q
   Component: 2.5l R5/4V      G   9650  
   Revision: --H01---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0G9019242
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3728238D03478ADF3BF-8063

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
   Part No SW: 09G 927 750 FL    HW: 09G 927 750 FL
   Component: AQ 250 6F           0920  
   Revision: 00H69000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000072
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 005A885116090D67CA5-8055

2 Faults Found:
17114 - Gear Ratio Monitoring 
            P0730 - 003 - Incorrect Gear Ratio - Intermittent
17114 - Gear Ratio Monitoring 
            P0730 - 003 - Incorrect Gear Ratio - Intermittent

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC    HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101  
   Revision: 00H11001    
   Coding: 0021122
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 73B0D79D57BF26FFC77-8027

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 820 047 GS
   Component: Climatic PQ35   120 0606  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 7BA0FFBD7FEF6EBF9F7-802F

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AJ    HW: 3C0 937 049 AJ
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2202  
   Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000007187910
   Coding: 05058A1700000000070A00000F000000000811035C000100000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 09513 444 52621
   VCID: 71BCDD952DA314EF35B-8025

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 020207 020  0501  
   Coding: 00038805
   Shop #: WSC 09513  

2 Faults Found:
01333 - Door Control Module; Rear Left (J388) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 11
                    Mileage: 269926 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2005.09.13
                    Time: 31:63:63

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 12.55 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 11
                    Mileage: 271181 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2005.09.13
                    Time: 31:63:63

             Freeze Frame:
                        OFF
                    Voltage: 12.45 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 AB    HW: 1K0 909 605 AB
   Component: 6A AIRBAG VW8R  034 8000  
   Revision: 05034000    Serial number: 003B6M00UX8R  
   Coding: 0013889
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 6C82CCE10A81F90706D-8039

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 959 339 F
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 007 0005

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332MSME15144A499

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342MSME156E340DI

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6351HSME0C2B4F5DT

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6361HSME0C36602EB

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63727SME0B636C68C

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 63827SME0B5D1C3EK

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CH    HW: 1K0 953 549 CH
   Component: J0527           056 0111  
   Coding: 0001731
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 7AAEFAB970D557B7841-802F

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K0 959 542 A  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS   H09 0013  
   Coding: 00000130
   Shop #: WSC 00000  

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 5K0 920 973 B    HW: 5K0 920 973 B
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0705  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 271D01
   Shop #: WSC 00066 123 00120
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
   VCID: 303A1891EAA95DE77A5-8065

2 Faults Found:
9453074 - Fuel Level Sensor 1 
          B103E 1B [008] - Resistance Too High
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 17
                    Mileage: 270285 km
                    Date: 2019.05.30
                    Time: 14:57:08

9459995 - Covering for fuel level indicator sensor 1 
          B1059 1B [008] - Resistance Too High
          [Geber 1 f¸r Kraftstoffvorratsanzeige: ‹bergangswiderstand zu grofl]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 253
                    Mileage: 270285 km
                    Date: 2019.05.30
                    Time: 14:53:55


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 M    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway H42 1623  
   Revision:   H42       Serial number: 260412F2003028
   Coding: 351002
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3A2E3AB93C5597B7C41-806F

3 Faults Found:
01333 - Door Control Module; Rear Left (J388) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00110100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 10
                    Mileage: 269926 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.10.16
                    Time: 16:39:06

01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00110100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 10
                    Mileage: 271181 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.10.29
                    Time: 10:00:30

01305 - Databus for Infotainment 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 7
                    Mileage: 271061 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2013.10.26
                    Time: 11:51:45


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H05 0705  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6A8ECAF90CF5E737741-803F

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 P    HW: 1K0 959 793 L
   Component: J386  TUER-SG FT    1133  
   Revision: 32008001    Serial number: 00000108978115
   Coding: 0001205
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3B203FBD3F6FAEBFDF7-806F

1 Fault Found:
00928 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Driver Side (F220) 
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 233
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 L
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.070 H07 1806  
   Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
   VCID: 34321481123161C71ED-8061

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CD    HW: 1K0 959 433 CD
   Component:    KSG PQ35 RDK 051 0215  
   Revision: 00051000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 13900F880186083F3F04058FB0880F0488DC40
   Shop #: WSC 00066 123 12345
   VCID: 74B2D48152B121C7DED-8021

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 P    HW: 1K0 959 792 L
   Component: J387  TUER-SG BT    1133  
   Revision: 32008001    Serial number: 00000576778105
   Coding: 0001204
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3C223CA13A61A987D6D-8069

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 6RD 035 187 B    HW: 6RD 035 187 B
   Component: Radio         534 5518  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: VWZZZ4H6234825
   Coding: 16000440040006
   Shop #: WSC 00078 790 00217
   VCID: 46D65E4978ADE357B09-8013

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 Q    HW: 1K0 959 795 J
   Component: J388   TUER-SG HL   1120  
   Revision: 12006001    Serial number: 00000001060360
   Coding: 0001168
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3E2636A92C7DBB97F89-806B

2 Faults Found:
00107 - Signal Central Locking SAVE/LOCK Rear Left 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 10
                    Reset counter: 17
                    Mileage: 270082 km
                    Time Indication: 0

00930 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Rear Left (F222) 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 95
                    Reset counter: 18
                    Mileage: 268206 km
                    Time Indication: 0


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Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 3C0-959-433-65.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CD    HW: 1K0 959 433 CD
   Component:    RDK              0420  
   Revision: 00051000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0100101
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 74B2D48152B121C7DED-8021

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 Q    HW: 1K0 959 794 J
   Component: J389   TUER-SG HR   1120  
   Revision: 12006001    Serial number: 00000001047766
   Coding: 0001168
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3FD84BAD2B77B29FF3F-806B

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:15, VBatt start/end: 12.4V/12.3V)-----------
 
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There was more than one type of valve body used, but I don't know how you tell which models used which versions. Some had pressure switches, some not. There were different solenoid sizes too, though I'm not sure that's a problem in itself.

Have you investigated the "Transgo" kit for the 09G? I have one on my shelf, but not had a reason to use it so far :D
 
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I haven't seen these at all. I'm not sure what'm looking at. Can you explain?
 
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Sounds like plugged filter since no other faults or trans is smoked for clutch pack, no?
Did you ever consider also increasing the oil thickness to establish lost ware tolerances?
 
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Clutch packs are my fear
 
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Well, what you have to lose when the POS has over 150 K anyway?

Helpfull. Again I have another transmission. I was asking if it's possible to swap just the valve body, not be insulted because my "pos" has a lot of miles.
 
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Helpfull. Again I have another transmission. I was asking if it's possible to swap just the valve body, not be insulted because my "pos" has a lot of miles.
Don't take it personally, Jack (who is not a Ross-Tech employee!) is like that with just about everyone. However, he's got way to much experience and knowledge in this field for me to give him the boot for being an ass. ;)

I think what he's trying to tell you is that an automatic transmission that's made it to 150,000 miles doesn't owe anyone anything, and it's entirely possible that some of the other parts (like clutches) in that trans are done for as well.

Now whether you can just swap valve bodies: I would say the answer is: "Maybe". You haven't provided enough info about the other other trans you have. All we know is that it's "from a 2006". Are the transmission codes the same? Do you know the VIN of the donor car? VW changes stuff constantly, and those changes don't all come at a model year boundary.

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Don't take it personally, Jack (who is not a Ross-Tech employee!) is like that with just about everyone. However, he's got way to much experience and knowledge in this field for me to give him the boot for being an ass. ;)

I think what he's trying to tell you is that an automatic transmission that's made it to 150,000 miles doesn't owe anyone anything, and it's entirely possible that some of the other parts (like clutches) in that trans are done for as well.

Now whether you can just swap valve bodies: I would say the answer is: "Maybe". You haven't provided enough info about the other other trans you have. All we know is that it's "from a 2006". Are the transmission codes the same? Do you know the VIN of the donor car? VW changes stuff constantly, and those changes don't all come at a model year boundary.

-Uwe-

Sorry I didn't realize I didn't. The VIN on the donor car is 1J4GL48K16W179880
 
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Indeed Uwe and OP all cars are a POS not just yours.

Yeah don't take me personally or wear your heart on your sleeve, I'm the asshole who will kick you in your ass to do shit right!

Want a cup of tea, a hug and a tissue?

Now let's get to helping......

The reason I asked if you considered to try thicker oil is because it is easy to just drop ATF oil and try fast first, versus a vague VB swap question and which is incomplete and already full of FOD and why you should RTFB?

Did you try a quick clean additive to wash the noids too?


Vehicle Identification No.3VWEG71K57M125932
ModelJetta
JEM
Date of production15.02.2007
Model year2007
Sales type1K27R3
Engine CodeBGQ
Transmission CodeJUJ


THIS IS WHY JPPSG!

https://forums.ross-tech.com/showth...essional-Problem-Solver-Guide-quot-JPPSG-quot

FOD INVALID VIN OP \/

fod-control-signs-risk-series.png



WTF is this OP?

1J4GL48K16W179880 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< FOD FAIL!



3VWEG71K57M125932 FOD PASS for DATA BELOW!

Code:
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06A-906-032-BGP.lbl
   Part No SW: 07K 906 032 Q    HW: 07K 906 032 Q
   Component: 2.5l R5/4V      G   9650  
   Revision: --H01---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0G9019242
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3728238D03478ADF3BF-8063

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
   Part No SW: 09G 927 750 FL    HW: 09G 927 750 FL
   Component: AQ 250 6F           0920  
   Revision: 00H69000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000072
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 005A885116090D67CA5-8055

2 Faults Found:
17114 - Gear Ratio Monitoring 
            P0730 - 003 - Incorrect Gear Ratio - Intermittent
17114 - Gear Ratio Monitoring 
            P0730 - 003 - Incorrect Gear Ratio - Intermittent

OP Please get back to the collective with a valid VIN number &
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I haven't seen these at all. I'm not sure what'm looking at. Can you explain?

http://www.transgo.com/products.php?category_id=50&product_id=62

I haven't tried one yet... but I just brought a damaged car that I might fit it to, then swap into my wifes to test it. They seem to get pretty good reviews when used. The valve bodies wear and the solenoid bores warp - then the solenoid doesn't move when it should, then suddenly releases leading to slamming, and/or the pressure bypasses the valve leading to slow remote valve movement and delayed clutch engagement (flares).

If it hasn't been doing it very long, it's more likely the valve body. Having said that, a freind just had his valve body replaced in his Golf, and it had been slamming and flaring for over a year, and it's smooth as silk now, after just a valve body.

The valve body is easier to change first... but if the trans is knackered, then you'll have to swap it back and then swap the trans.

If the trans is a different code, you can swap the TCU, to match the ratios in it.
 
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I apologize. The VIN 1J4GL48K16W179880 is for my wife's Jeep. I'm an idiot. I'm obviously new to tranny work, but I'm pretty determined. I thought I grabbed the VIN off the donor car. Apparently I didn't. I have not thought of going to a heavier fluid to compensate. What weight would you suggest? I'm not sure the tranny fluid has ever been changed in this car.
 
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I apologize. The VIN 1J4GL48K16W179880 is for my wife's Jeep. I'm an idiot. I'm obviously new to tranny work, but I'm pretty determined. I thought I grabbed the VIN off the donor car. Apparently I didn't. I have not thought of going to a heavier fluid to compensate. What weight would you suggest? I'm not sure the tranny fluid has ever been changed in this car.


I have been there. I was hesitant to use something other than the VW ATF because of what I've (admittedly by the dealer) been told. That stuff is crazy expensive.


Isn't that a verified a Loaded diaper indeed & as aforementioned?

And the VIN from the donor is?
 
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The donor transmission is 09g 321 107 d
 
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Hey whats this?

https://www.samsclub.com/sams/certified/prod740102.ip?xid=plp_product_1_1



The donor transmission is 09g 321 107 d

Another bullshit number!


What does this do?


PART NUMBERDESCRIPTIONMODEL
09G 300 034 B6 speed automatic transmission61:15KGL,HRM,HFU,
KBV,JUJ
$6,719.98
Re manufactured Parts

PART NUMBERDESCRIPTIONMODELRRP
09G 300 034 BX6 speed automatic transmission$4,746.65

PART NUMBERDESCRIPTIONREMARKMODELRRP
09G 300 039 EX6 speed automatic transmissionJUJ$4,746.65


PART NUMBERDESCRIPTIONREMARKMODELRRP
G 055 025 A2atf (automatic transm. fluid)1,0ltr.$19.14
 
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