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    08 S4 Avant Auto to manual module recoding help needed

    08 S4 Avant and we are removing the auto for a 6 speed manual.

    The current ECU won't accept the coding from auto to 6 gang.

    Will a 08 Manual ECU file example 8E2 910 560C flash into the current ECU 8E2 910 560 G ? I'm told the C version could be tweaked to load into G box, However some auto boxes brick when putting manual files in.

    The car starts and in the steering wheel module I was able to turn off the Tip paddles. Cluster shows the push in clutch pedal to start message. The auto scan shows that it's still looking for the TCU.

    Does the ABS module need a recoding as well? What about the Instrument cluster coding?

    Or does the manual ECU file sort all of this?

    First time swap on the B7, thank you for the help.

    Code:
    Chassis Type: 8E (8E - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B6/B7 (2001 > 2008))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 25 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65
              67 69 75 76 77
     
    VIN: WAUUL78E68A109454   Mileage: 105080km-65293miles
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    Address 01: Engine (   )       Labels: 079-910-560-BBK.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E2 910 560 G    HW: 8E2 907 560 
       Component: 4.2L V8/5V      G   0010  
       Revision: --H01---    Serial number: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
       Coding: 0007771
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 2B16F76C8A41551258-807E
    
    1 Fault Found:
    005670 - Powertrain Data Bus 
                   P1626 - 008 - Missing Message from TCU - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11101000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 105084 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 26.0°C
                        Temperature: 28.0°C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 12.065 V
    
    Readiness: 0110 1101
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8E0-910-517.clb
       Part No SW: 8E0 910 517 J    HW: 8E0 614 517 BH
       Component: ESP8 quattro    H06 0140  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0004902
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 2E10FE78B953203A7F-807A
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01315 - Transmission Control Module 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 40
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Hex Value: 0x0040
                        Hex Value: 0x4002
                        Hex Value: 0x0013
                        Hex Value: 0x4494
                        Hex Value: 0x0001
    
    01826 - Sensor for Steering Angle (G85); Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
                000 -  -  - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 7
                        Reset counter: 40
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Hex Value: 0x0000
                        Hex Value: 0x4222
                        Hex Value: 0x0024
                        Hex Value: 0x0196
                        Hex Value: 0x0001
    
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 820 043 BM
       Component:   A4 Klimaautomat   3233  
       Coding: 00000
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
       VCID: 6D92397425D59B2206-5118
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 8E0-907-279-8EC.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 907 279 N
       Component: int. Lastmodul  USA 0907  
       Coding: 11023
       Shop #: WSC 65536  
       VCID: 3D32C9343535CBA2F6-4AA4
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8E0-959-655-94.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 959 655 M    HW: 8E0 959 655 M
       Component:    Airbag 9.41  H01 4240  
       Revision: 91H01424    Serial number: 003CS0000SK5  
       Coding: 0032607
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 41CAB5C418CDAF4292-8014
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E0 910 339 D
       Component: BF-Gewichtsens. H03 0080
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 01H57         
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0001.01.0000H0300000000000˙† 63
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 000000˙† 6332DRB4063451158˙† 63
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 451158˙† 6342DRB4063C879F1˙† 63
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: C879F1˙† 6352ARB402F87A6D0˙† 63
    
       Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 87A6D0˙† 6362ARB402F92D65Z˙† 63
    
       Subsystem 8 - Serial number: 92D65Z˙† 63729RB402B966AA.˙† 63
    
       Subsystem 9 - Serial number: 966AA.˙† 63829RB402B96717R˙
    
       Subsystem 10 - Serial number: 96717R˙
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 953 549 Q
       Component: Lenksáulenmodul     0801  
       Coding: 04042
       Shop #: WSC 06335  
       VCID: 41CAB5C449CDAF4292-4AA4
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 920 983 D    HW: 8E0 920 983 D
       Component: KOMBI+WFS 4     H10 0200  
       Revision: 0200        Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0023268
       Shop #: WSC 04310 758 67144
       VCID: 302CE000A26736CA6D-5118
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01315 - Transmission Control Module 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
    01300 - Control Module for Navigation with CD-Rom (J401) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 920 983 D    HW: 8E0 920 983 D
       Component: KOMBI+WFS 4     H10 0200  
       Revision: 0200        Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0023268
       Shop #: WSC 04310 758 67144
       VCID: 302CE000A26736CA6D-5118
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01315 - Transmission Control Module 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
    01300 - Control Module for Navigation with CD-Rom (J401) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: 8E0-959-760.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 959 760 
       Component: Sitzmemory R2 F     0305  
       Coding: 00002
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
       VCID: 71AA25043AED7FC222-4B3C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 8E0-959-433-MAX.clb
       Part No: 8E0 959 433 CP
       Component: Komfortgerát T7B    4336  
       Coding: 12076
       Shop #: WSC 06335  
       VCID: 014A75C4094D6F42D2-4AA4
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E1959801G
       Component: Tőrsteuer.FS BRM 0706  
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E1959802G
       Component: Tőrsteuer.BF BRM 0706  
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8E0959801E
       Component: Tőrsteuer.HL BRM 0606  
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8E0959802E
       Component: Tőrsteuer.HR BRM 0606  
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4F0-910-357.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 357 F    HW: 4F0 907 357 F
       Component: AFS 1           H01 0020  
       Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000019
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 291A0D6480BD4702AA-807C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E0 941 329 A
       Component: AFS-Modul links H05 0030
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E0 941 329 A
       Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH05 0030
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 8E0-907-273.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 907 273 A    HW: 8E0 907 273 A
       Component: Reifendruck 3   H04 0130  
       Coding: 0063022
       Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
       VCID: 2A18F26887BB4C1AA3-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
       Part No SW: 8P0 862 335 R    HW: 8P0 862 335 R
       Component: FSE_255x BT     H26 0350  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000005056613
       Coding: 0011877
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 45C2A1D40DE58362AE-50D0
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 05:00, VBatt start/end: 12.1V/12.1V)-----------

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    Quote Originally Posted by wld101turkey View Post
    08 S4 Avant and we are removing the auto for a 6 speed manual.

    The current ECU won't accept the coding from auto to 6 gang.

    Will a 08 Manual ECU file example 8E2 910 560C flash into the current ECU 8E2 910 560 G ? I'm told the C version could be tweaked to load into G box, However some auto boxes brick when putting manual files in.

    The car starts and in the steering wheel module I was able to turn off the Tip paddles. Cluster shows the push in clutch pedal to start message. The auto scan shows that it's still looking for the TCU.

    Does the ABS module need a recoding as well? What about the Instrument cluster coding?

    Or does the manual ECU file sort all of this?

    First time swap on the B7, thank you for the help.

    Hello,

    The ECM [8E2 910 560 G] is for vehicles with Automatic transmissions only and will not accept the coding for the manual transmission.

    Based on some research, the ECM [8E2 910 560 F] or [8E2 910 560 FX] should be the one you need. Please check with the manufacture's parts department to verify this information.

    I believe the [8E2 910 560 C(X)] is for a 2007 and was dropped and replaced by the [8E2 910 560 F(X)]

    Info based on engine code 'BHF' and PR-Code [7GA]



    ABS coding should be changed to [0004901] (manual trans)

    In the Instrument cluster, you will need to remove [00002] from the value stored in Adaptation channel [060] - CAN-Databus Powertrain (Installation List)

    Then clear codes and see what comes back, post a new Auto-Scan if needed.



    Hope this helps,

    drpeter
    Last edited by DrPeter; 06-28-2019 at 02:55 PM. Reason: adding ECM info

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    Very helpful drpeter. Thank you.

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