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    2010 Phaeton - Big Electrical Issues - VCDS not clearing faults

    Not too sure what happened but, the car will not start and the VCDS will not clear the error codes. Pretty sure the ECU is working as I can hear noises when trying to start the car. Any advice gratefully accepted.
    Thanks in anticipation.

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    Sunday,26,May,2019,13:43:45:01891
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64)
    Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
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    VIN: WVWZZZ3DZA800xxxx   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 3D (6N0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 07 08 09 15 16 17 18 19 34 37 38 42 46 47 52 56
              62 68 71 72 76 77
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ3DZA800xxxx   Mileage: 169280km-105185miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    34-Level Control -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
    38-Roof Electronics -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    68-Wiper Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
    71-Battery Charger -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    76-Park Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (CEX)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 3D0 907 401 G    HW: 3D0 907 401 D
       Component: 3.0TDI EDC17G000AG  0030  
       Revision: --H01---    Serial number: VWX3Z0I1861025
       Coding: 0406002C191F0160
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 234FC021E1D29B52E0-50EA
    
    1 Fault Found:
    049409 - No Communication with Transmission Control Module 
                   U0101 - 001 - 
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 169288 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.05.25
                        Time: 19:33:59
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Voltage: 11.17 V
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        (no units): 8.0
                        Bin. Bits: 00000001
    
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels: 3D0-909-13x-05.lbl
       Part No SW: 3D0 909 139 D    HW: 3D0 909 139 D
       Component:    Kessy            6850  
       Revision: 00H22072    Serial number: VWX3Z0I1861025
       Coding: 0004328
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 2A512D0581F84A1AA3-807E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 905 852 E
       Component: ELV                 2141
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 07: Control Head        Labels: 3D0-907-048.clb
       Part No SW: 3D0 907 048     HW: 3D0 907 048 
       Component: J127 KBT vorn       0031  
       Revision: ABH64001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7M0243072
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 63CF8021A652DB52A0-8036
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 3D0-907-040.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 907 040 L
       Component: Climatronic D1      2035  
       Coding: 0000001
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 2757D43192EA7772BC-8072
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01274 - Air Flow Flap Positioning Motor (V71) 
                005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.
    Cannot be reached
    Unable to communicate with address 09. Are you sure the doors are unlocked?
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 3D0-909-601.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 909 601 E
       Component: 0H Airbag 8.4E+ H12 0935  
       Coding: 0012360
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 254BDE39E8E665628E-8070
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 7L6-953-549.lbl
       Part No: 7L6 953 549 K
       Component: J527                3601  
       Coding: 0000011
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 479774B132AA97725C-8012
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 3D0-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No SW: 3D0 920 983 C    HW: 3D0 920 983 C
       Component: J285 KOMBI-INST.    0616  
       Revision: KPH06V01    
       Coding: 0039401
       Shop #: WSC 00670 067 57207
       VCID: 2953D20980FE4102AA-807C
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01315 - Transmission Control Module 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 84
                        Mileage: 169288 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.05.25
                        Time: 19:56:29
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: None
       Part No: 3D0 815 005 AP
       Component: J737__Standheizung  4405  
       Revision: 00084000    Serial number: 09020869A00000
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 6BDFE8014A82931218-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 6N0-909-901-7L.clb
       Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 3D0 920 983 C
       Component: J533  GW-K-CAN TP20 0616  
       Coding: 5FF2F3AC3B011003
       Shop #: WSC 00670 067 57207
       VCID: 70E5FF6D63A470CA2D-8024
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01315 - Transmission Control Module 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 84
                        Mileage: 169288 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.05.25
                        Time: 19:56:29
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 34: Level Control
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels:. 3D0-035-680.clb
       Part No SW: 3D0 035 680     HW: 3D0 035 680 
       Component: RNS-MID       H64 0210  
       Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7M0243072
       Coding: 020100000000002200
       Shop #: WSC 00670 210 45725
       VCID: 5DBBB6D94436EDA296-8008
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 38: Roof Electronics        Labels: 3D0-907-135.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 907 135 E
       Component: Dachmodul           0802  
       Coding: 0004157
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 254BDE39E8E665628E-8070
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels:. 3D0-035-680.clb
       Part No SW: 3D0 035 680     HW: 3D0 035 680 
       Component: RNS-MID       H64 0210  
       Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7M0243072
       Coding: 020100000000002200
       Shop #: WSC 00670 210 45725
       VCID: 5DBBB6D94436EDA296-8008
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 68: Wiper Electr.        Labels: 3Dx-955-1xx-V2.clb
       Part No: 3D2 955 120 B
       Component: Front Wiper         3501  
       Coding: 0013685
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 376832
       VCID: 2143CA29FCCE8942F2-8074
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 71: Battery Charger        Labels: 3D0-915-181.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 915 181 D
       Component: Batteriemanagement  2800  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 244DC33DE3DC9C6A99-8070
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: None
       Part No: 3D0 919 283 E
       Component: 10 Einparkhilfe     1107  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2C5D2B1D8B0C542A51-8078
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
                013 - Check DTC Memory
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone
    Cannot be reached
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:27)--------------------------
    Last edited by Uwe; 05-26-2019 at 10:06 PM. Reason: CODE tags

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    Welcome to the forum, and welcome to Team Phaeton! We demand to be taken seriously!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Rossi View Post
    Not too sure what happened but, the car will not start and the VCDS will not clear the error codes. Pretty sure the ECU is working as I can hear noises when trying to start the car. Any advice gratefully accepted.
    Lots of things in the car are unresponsive to diagnostics, but only the transmission controller is actually offline totally. Hmm.

    Let's check the simple things first:

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                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Voltage: 11.17 V
    That's very low. Check the state of BOTH batteries, and then place a charger on them if you can. You can get in a situation where the cabin electronics mostly work, but the engine just can't crank, if the left-side battery (vehicle power supply) is low and the right one (starting) is kaput. The Phaeton has a paralleling relay and some other emergency starting logic to help, but often that just hides a problem until it gets really bad. A MY2009 car with the factory batteries would be well overdue.
    Silence gives consent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jyoung8607 View Post
    A MY2009 car with the factory batteries would be well overdue.
    Apologies for being pedantic here, but based on the VIN, this is a 2010 car (which of course doesn't preclude it having been made and even registered in 2009). But since Model Year is what's most important when it comes to diagnostics, I've fixed the thread title.

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Have charged both batteries and have same problem - Latest scan below

    Both batteries charged all day and still a low voltage. Thanks all for your help. The car is a 59 plate.

    Freeze Frame:
    RPM: 0 /min
    Speed: 0.0 km/h
    Load: 0.0 %
    Voltage: 10.03 V
    Bin. Bits: 00000000
    (no units): 8.0
    Bin. Bits: 00000001

    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Rossi View Post
    Both batteries charged all day and still a low voltage.
    How old are they?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Rossi View Post
    The car is a 59 plate.
    "Plate" is irrelevant.

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    How old are they?


    "Plate" is irrelevant.

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    Both batteries about 3 years old

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Rossi View Post
    Both batteries about 3 years old
    Not old enough that they should be bad at this time, but not new enough that they're "known good". I'd pull them and load-test them individually.

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    Apologies for being pedantic here, but based on the VIN, this is a 2010 car (which of course doesn't preclude it having been made and even registered in 2009). But since Model Year is what's most important when it comes to diagnostics, I've fixed the thread title.
    I fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia," but only slightly less well-known is this: "Always check the VIN when a Brit tells you his model-year because 80% of the time he's talking about his license plate!"
    Last edited by jyoung8607; 05-28-2019 at 08:53 AM.
    Silence gives consent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr_Rossi View Post
    Both batteries charged all day and still a low voltage. Thanks all for your help. The car is a 59 plate.

    Freeze Frame:
    RPM: 0 /min
    Speed: 0.0 km/h
    Load: 0.0 %
    Voltage: 10.03 V
    Bin. Bits: 00000000
    (no units): 8.0
    Bin. Bits: 00000001

    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1
    It's gotten considerably worse since your last scan. That is not consistent with a healthy battery that was on a decent charger for any length of time. Do you have a multimeter? Can you check each battery directly with the car shut off? Phaetons do have some common issues, like water intrusion into the KESSY security module, but the voltage here is just too low to even go down that road yet.
    Silence gives consent.

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