Bentley Continental GT V8 2013 - is it safe to read ABS-Brakes Faults?

ohwhatalad · May 22, 2019

Hi all, i have Hex net v2 professional

this is my own car - everyday when i start it , it says "brake wear" on the screen, however all brake pads are fine LOADS left on them

after a drive , stop and start car, the light does not come back on. only first start of every day it appears

My question is, is VCDS safe to read this module on this car? Fault codes etc,

I have plugged it in, it recognises everything, i used it to find a fault with a TPMS sensor earlier, was great help.

thanks in advance, (plus any tips on why sensor light keeps coming on would be great)

Uwe · May 22, 2019

Hi and welcome.

The best thing to do would be to post a complete Auto-Scan from your car.

-Uwe-

ohwhatalad · May 22, 2019

Thanks, i was just questioning if it was safe to read this module, as in the WIKI bentley 2012+ is greyed out meaning i have nothing to read.

ive heard some specific modules should not be read with VCDS as they can leave error codes which are not clearable.

DrPeter · May 22, 2019

ohwhatalad said:
Thanks, i was just questioning if it was safe to read this module, as in the WIKI bentley 2012+ is greyed out meaning i have nothing to read.

ive heard some specific modules should not be read with VCDS as they can leave error codes which are not clearable.

Hello,

We have had lots of Ross-Tech customer send us complete vehicle Auto-Scans of the Bentley Continental and the New Bentley Continental 2012+ without causing errors.

Where have you seen that VCDS has left errors?

Use the pull down menu on the Auto-Scan screen to select the [39-Bentley Continental (2012>), it will work fine.

drpeter

ohwhatalad · Jun 27, 2019

hi all! i done a complete log today, however, when i go into 03-ABS BRAKES, it keeps timing out, over and over, i will try to attach a video, in the meantime here is my log

Code:

Thursday,27,June,2019,17:22:05:51790
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 19.6.0.6  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4505.4
Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com





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Chassis Type: 3W-BY62 (6N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 15 16 17 19 2E 34 36 37 38 46 47 53
          56 65 68 6C 71 76 77

VIN: SCBFJ63W9DC080562   Mileage: 64390km-40010miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: Malfunction 0010
07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
34-Level Control -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
38-Roof Electronics -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
68-Wiper Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
71-Battery Charger -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine (------CMMC)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 3W0 906 560     HW: 3W0 907 560 
   Component: 4.0l V8TFSI / H54 0002  
   Revision: NFH54---    Serial number: VWX3Z0L3965688
   Coding: 1D2A00126527000A0001
   Shop #: WSC 11519 000 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM40TFS0113W0906560 001003
   ROD: EV_ECM40TFS0113W0906560.rod
   VCID: 74B1DFBF0E378B47DED-8020

1 Fault Found:
18062 - Coolant Pump 2 
          P261A 00 [047] - Open circuit
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 62814 km
                    Date: 2019.04.16
                    Time: 11:21:54

                    Engine speed: 671.50 /min
                    Normed load value: 12.9 %
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 99 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 60 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.900 V
                    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                    AFS dm: 21.2 kg/h
                    Median injection timing: 1.952 ms
                    Engine operating condition-Channel 87: Idling
                    Relative load value: 20.39 %
                    Tumg: 20.3 °C
                    Psr w: 358.52 hPa
                    Engine torque: 66.6 Nm

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels:| 0CM-325-025.clb
   Part No SW: 3W0 927 158     HW: 0CU 927 760 A
   Component: OBL 40TFSIRdW H08 0006  
   Revision: --H08---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 000001
   Shop #: WSC 00083 790 00190
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAL450211 002010
   ROD: EV_TCMAL450211_BY62.rod
   VCID: 7AADF1872C53FD37841-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: None
   VCID: 55F7823BED4DF24FC93-8000

No Faults Found
  or DTCs not supported by controller
  or a communication error occurred

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels: 3D0-909-13x-05.lbl
   Part No SW: 3D0 909 137 F    HW: 3D0 909 137 F
   Component: A0 Kessy            6850  
   Revision: 00H24072    Serial number: VWX3Z0L3965688
   Coding: 0422125
   Shop #: WSC 00083 790 00190
   VCID: 2A0D01C790B38DB7B41-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: ELV                 XXXX

1 Fault Found:
00184 - Control Circuit for Engine Start/Stop Switch 
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 14
                    Reset counter: 67
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.11.29
                    Time: 13:28:28


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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass (J521)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 3W3 959 760     HW: 3W3 959 760 
   Component: MEM-BFS       H03 0171  
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00000029584203
   Coding: C03A1B2495A70000090001010101010000212727000000
   Shop #: WSC 00083 790 00243
   VCID: 015F866B4145AEEFC5B-8054

1 Fault Found:
03945 - Air Cushion for Lumbar Massage 
            003 - Mechanical Failure - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 217
                    Mileage: 63812 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.05.21
                    Time: 17:39:18


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Address 07: Control Head        Labels: 3D0-907-048.clb
   Part No SW: 3D0 907 048     HW: 3D0 907 048 
   Component: J127 KBT vorn       0100  
   Revision: ABH06001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7M0130003
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6393ACE3B7191CFFB77-8036

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 3W7-907-040.clb
   Part No: 3W0 907 040 H
   Component: Climatronic BY624   3016  
   Coding: 0000111
   Shop #: WSC 00083 790 00190
   VCID: 363525B7540BD957209-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3D0-937-049-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 3D0 937 049 Q    HW: 3D0 937 049 Q
   Component: J519                7700  
   Revision: -4006---    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 40820000AB2A11800508030000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00083 790 00190
   VCID: 38292B8F5E1F2F27325-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 3W3 959 655     HW: 3W3 959 655 
   Component: 11 Airbag 9.43  H04 0050  
   Revision: 93H04005    Serial number: 003FV000715J  
   Coding: 0012593
   Shop #: WSC 00083 790 00190
   VCID: 04518F7F5257BBC7EED-8050

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332DRB40E488796$

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342DRB40E498A12W

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 63528RB406B010299

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 63628RB406AE7200K

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63747RB406B58C57.

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63847RB406B58C9A2

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 7L6-953-549.lbl
   Part No: 7L6 953 549 K
   Component: J527                3601  
   Coding: 0000032
   Shop #: WSC 00083 790 00190
   VCID: 47CB587323E150DF4BF-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 3Wx-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 3W0 920 851 D    HW: 3W0 920 851 D
   Component: J285 KOMBI-INST.    3519  
   Revision: KPH10V02    
   Coding: 0042414
   Shop #: WSC 12587 123 45725
   VCID: 372B28B35341205F3BF-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 6N0-909-901-7L.clb
   Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 3W0 920 851 D
   Component: J533  GW-K-CAN TP20 3519  
   Coding: 5FF2FFAEEB054701
   Shop #: WSC 12587 123 45725
   VCID: 70B9D3AF76AFB7673A5-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 E    HW: 5N0 035 342 E
   Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H13 0240  
   Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7662534922    
   Coding: 030000
   Shop #: WSC 00083 790 00194
   VCID: 290FFECB99F586AFBDB-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 34: Level Control        Labels: 3Wx-907-553-34.clb
   Part No: 3W0 907 553 H
   Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC- 3C3V0 7505  
   Coding: 0005511
   Shop #: WSC 00083 790 00203
   VCID: 3FDB40937B31181FF3F-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 3W3 959 760     HW: 3W3 959 760 
   Component: MEM-FS        H03 0171  
   Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00000029586558
   Coding: C03A1B2495A70000090001010101010000212727000000
   Shop #: WSC 00083 790 00242
   VCID: 015F866B4145AEEFC5B-8054

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 3W0 035 017 F    HW: 3W0 035 017 F
   Component: RNS-MID       H06 0160  
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7M0130003
   Coding: 060100020000002040
   Shop #: WSC 00083 790 00190
   VCID: 303913AFBA2FF7677A5-8064

1 Fault Found:
00862 - Antenna for GPS Navigation (R50/R52) 
            007 - Short to Ground - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100111
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 244
                    Mileage: 64217 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.06.18
                    Time: 15:45:14


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Address 38: Roof Electronics        Labels: None
   Part No: 3W0 907 135 G
   Component: Dachmodul           0803  
   Coding: 0006589
   Shop #: WSC 00083 790 00194
   VCID: 3A2D318760133D37C41-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 3D0-959-933.lbl
   Part No: 3D0 959 933 P
   Component: GS HSG              8135  
   Coding: 0000040
   Shop #: WSC 00083 790 00190
   VCID: 3D273A9B716D0A0FE13-4B1E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3W8 959 701 L
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet FS 1107

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 3W8 959 702 L
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet BF 1107

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 3W8 959 703 F
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet HL 0705

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 3W8 959 704 F
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet HR 0705

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 3W3 909 610 A
   Component: 24 HDSG             2012

   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 7L0 907 719 A
   Component:    Neigungssensor   0020

2 Faults Found:
00933 - Electric Window Motor; Passenger Side (V148) 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - Intermittent
01735 - Potentiometer for Mirror Adj. Horizontal; Pass. Side 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

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Address 47: Sound System        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 3W8 035 465 C    HW: 3W8 035 465 C
   Component: DSP 8 Channel       0030  
   Revision: 00H07001    Serial number: 75870000390907
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3C21379F6A670307D6D-8068

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 3W0-907-801.clb
   Part No SW: 3W0 907 801 G    HW: 3W0 907 801 G
   Component: EPB  BC7H0290   HC7 0290  
   Coding: 0023513
   Shop #: WSC 00083 790 00211
   VCID: 3A2D318760433D37C41-5184

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 3W7 907 273 A    HW: 3W7 907 273 A
   Component: J0502 RDK           0004  
   Revision: 0004 004    Serial number: 00000600007850
   Coding: 3501E04185C863B8FD439700439700
   Shop #: WSC 00083 790 00214
   VCID: 3E253D977C3B1117F89-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 68: Wiper Electr.        Labels: 3Wx-955-023.clb
   Part No: 3W2 955 023 L
   Component: Wischermodul       ª0401  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 725 65552
   VCID: 40D9436F06CF67E78A5-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 5N0-907-441.clb
   Part No SW: 3W3 907 441 C    HW: 3W3 907 441 C
   Component: J772__Rearview      0030  
   Revision: 00H11000    Serial number: 525 PA8J250211
   Coding: 2022002
   Shop #: WSC 00083 790 00203
   VCID: 392F2E8B6555362FCDB-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 71: Battery Charger (J367)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 3W3 915 181 A    HW: 3W3 915 181 A
   Component: EMM Batt Man  H04 0570  
   Serial number: 0000000001
   Coding: 1E0100
   Shop #: WSC 37234 001 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BatteChargVaria1 002019
   ROD: EV_BatteChargVaria1_002.rod
   VCID: 372B28B35FC1205F3BF-8062

   Battery Monitoring Control Module: 

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 3W0 919 283 F    HW: 3W0 919 283 E
   Component: J446  ST Parkhilfe  0102  
   Revision: 11H01001    Serial number: 66731211400084
   Coding: 0308036
   Shop #: WSC 00083 790 00190
   VCID: 40D9436F06CF67E78A5-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels:| 3C8-035-730-A.clb
   Part No SW: 3D0 035 730 A    HW: 3D0 035 730 A
   Component: Telefon       010 0422  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 35909603387598
   Coding: 020102010100010000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00083 790 00190
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVPremiPhaet A01002
   ROD: EV_UHVPremiPhaet.rod
   VCID: 1A6DD107CC131D37241-804E

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 02:27, VBatt start/end: 11.6V/11.6V. VIgn 11.6V)-----

ohwhatalad · Jun 27, 2019

Here is the video i took showing it cannot connect to ABS BRAKES module and therefore cannot read DTC

any advice? i assume the BRAKE WEAR error i occasional get will be stored here

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1t_34L1q9Wfq0VWqtx-DORPxspvhJ327z

Uwe · Jun 27, 2019

Usually "Brake Wear" warnings originate from a simple circuit connected to the instrument cluster for the front pads, and from the EPB module for the back pads.

But in this case, it looks like you might have a dodgy ABS controller.

-Uwe-

DrPeter · Jun 27, 2019

Hello,

Uwe is correct, in the Bentley Continental GT, the 'brake pad wear sensors' are not sensors, they are simply wire loops in a plastic tab with a two terminal connector at the end.

They are placed into each of the 4 wheel's brake (outer?) pads. In the wiring diagrams, they are called - G34, G35, G36 and G37.

There is a 0.5mm red wire from the J285-Instrument Cluster on the G34-Left Front Pad wear sensor that should be grounded (from ground on the G37 through the G35, G36), when the sensors are NOT worn or damaged. If at anytime a pad wear senor loop is opened the Pad Wear light illuminates.

So the circuit is from J285 to G34 to G35 to G36 to G37 to chassis ground.

This information can be found in the "Dash panel insert" Bentley Factory wiring diagrams\Repair manuals.

The ABS controller is not connected to these wear sensors.

If the concern is not the brake pad wear sensor and this is actually an ABS concern, the light on the dash should be different. Maybe take a pic of the warning?

Hope this helps,

drpeter

ohwhatalad · Jul 4, 2019

Thanks your help is amazing!

Firstly, its definitly brake wear sensor, it even says it on the dash in letters BRAKE WEAR

Also, as its only on sometimes, others not, im sure not why, i think maybe a faulty brake pad wear sensor.

So, id like to turn it OFF, if i go into instrument cluster, i can see the coding - it says +1 brake pad wear sensor active.

See 2 photos here

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lfW-6QFJPNzU1fZACSgND39plbV8xANH/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-5N-6jPXOnmTQQzfSg0T6aOFTFEKp2uK/view?usp=sharing

IF i change coding from 0042414 to 0041414 as VCDS shows, would that take away the error

Can anyone confirm i am on the right path - dont wanna screw anything up!!

Thanks again

Uwe · Jul 4, 2019

The problem is that those two digits of the coding are a binary bit-field, and 42 doesn't have a 1 in it.
42 = +32 +8 +2

So it would seem something in the coding specs for this cluster have changed since that file was written (last modification in 2009) and your 2013 car was made.

Another approach is to pull the cluster and just jumper the appropriate wire behind it.

-Uwe-

ohwhatalad · Jul 4, 2019

Thansk understood, although this cluster was only produced for the bentley and made in 2012, for the 2012 on bentley so i dont understand how the file is wrong and how was written in 2009 ?
im new to all this sorry!

If i was to unplug the brake wear sensor for each wheel 1 by 1, and just shorted the connector block inside 2 wires together would that help? or not, i guess it needs to see earth to make the circuit closed.

not happy to take out cluster really and cut/ground the brake wear wire

ohwhatalad · Jul 4, 2019

Looking at the car now, the back pads have LOADS left, the fronts are a little low.

Maybe its occasionally grounding, and hence only sometimes pulling the fault on dash

If i remove both front sensor cables and short the pins inside the harness going to them together, for the meanwhile, would it stop the error? thanks!

BavarianCare · Jul 4, 2019

ohwhatalad said:
Looking at the car now, the back pads have LOADS left, the fronts are a little low.

Maybe its occasionally grounding, and hence only sometimes pulling the fault on dash

If i remove both front sensor cables and short the pins inside the harness going to them together, for the meanwhile, would it stop the error? thanks!

Yes.
But do it on sensor side of connection, not the car harness side.

Uwe · Jul 4, 2019

ohwhatalad said:
Thansk understood, although this cluster was only produced for the bentley and made in 2012, for the 2012 on bentley so i dont understand how the file is wrong and how was written in 2009 ?

It would seen that clusters matching the part number pattern 3Wx-920-xxx existed (at least) as far back as 2009.

-Uwe-

Uwe · Jul 4, 2019

ohwhatalad said:
If i was to unplug the brake wear sensor for each wheel 1 by 1, and just shorted the connector block inside 2 wires together would that help? or not, i guess it needs to see earth to make the circuit closed.

No, you don't need earth/ground to close a circuit. The technique you are proposing would work, assuming the problem is actually at one of the wheels rather than in the wiring to the wheels.

-Uwe-

NEtech · Jul 4, 2019

It could look like Coding is a little different between
3W0-920-84x
3W0-920-85x

If you want maybe test this Coding:
0040414

ohwhatalad · Jul 4, 2019

Thanks, will unplug both front sensors tomorrow, put some wire round both pins in the cars plug, for now, and hope it works!

It would be great to someday know the correct coding for my instrument panel

Bentley Continental GT V8 2013 - is it safe to read ABS-Brakes Faults?

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