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    Your Car Knows When You Gain Weight

    Opinion piece in the NYT by Bill Hanvey, President and CEO of the Auto Care Association:
    Your Car Knows When You Gain Weight

    Personally, I think he's exaggerating a bit. How exactly is the car supposed to know when the driver has gained weight? It may be able to measure the front-seat passenger's weight using the Passenger Occupancy Detection sensor, but last I looked, driver's seats didn't have such sensors because the car assumes that a driver is always present. OK, it could base this the total mass of the car, which it could calculate from acceleration vs. power applied, but then how would it differentiate between a weight gain/loss and some change in the amount of crap stored in the trunk?

    Then there's this: "Modern cars collect as much as 25 gigabytes of data per hour". I'm sure they generate that much data and more, but I see no evidence that they collect (i.e. store) it, nor is anyone likely to be willing to pay to transmit that much data via the cellular networks.

    That said, the point he's trying to raise is valid. Who owns that data? Who should and shouldn't have access to it?

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    "Big Brother Is Watching You". I hate the system of total control...

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    car just has to calculate the weight by comparing suspension change between when the driver door opens and closes.

    like the remake of 'italian job' figuring out which truck has the gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Dub View Post
    car just has to calculate the weight by comparing suspension change between when the driver door opens and closes.
    Very few cars have suspensions sophisticated enough to make that possible. Steel springs and conventional shocks still dominate. I suppose ride-height sensors are getting more common though with fancier headlights that need to be aimed dynamically. Question is are they sensitive enough to see a few pounds worth of difference?

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    Hi,

    I think I will keep the 1996 VR6 GTI, it does not collect data, has no radio and it does not care if I loose or gain weight..

    Personally, I would have to say the owner of the vehicle owns the data, it is their vehicle, right? I never signed or seen anyone sign a End-User License Agreement when they buy a new or used vehicle. Maybe that will change?

    Maybe in the future there will be an 'opt out' option? but without (hopefully) limiting functions that you have paid for? I may be behind a bit on what is been said and what is happening on this topic, so if I am mistaken, let me know.

    Ugh... I just had a thought ... I can visualize manufactures will be injecting personalized advertisements in self drive vehicles of the future...
    ... and these vehicles will be on high speed limited access roads where I can not drive my 'ethanol free dino-fuel' GTI on their 'safe space' roads...


    Photo of the driver-less concept vehicle during my visit to: Transparent Factory in Dresden, Germany



    See you in the future or maybe in the past, I will be taking the scenic route

    drpeter

    ps... Speaking of owning... and I want access to my PIN codes! my rides, my pins. Like a radio code right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPeter View Post
    Maybe in the future there will be an 'opt out' option?
    VCDS owners already have it. "Flight Mode" in the Telematics module.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrPeter View Post
    Photo of the driver-less concept vehicle during my visit to: Transparent Factory in Dresden, Germany
    Wish I'd known you were going. Did you sign up for the good tour? If you send your Phaeton VIN to the right folks (and I would have rented you mine for a day for a beer ) you get an individual owner's behind-the-glass tour, or at least you used to. I should imagine they'd do the same for one of your Bentley VINs though since they were also produced there.
    Silence gives consent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jyoung8607 View Post
    Wish I'd known you were going. Did you sign up for the good tour? If you send your Phaeton VIN to the right folks (and I would have rented you mine for a day for a beer ) you get an individual owner's behind-the-glass tour, or at least you used to. I should imagine they'd do the same for one of your Bentley VINs though since they were also produced there.


    - Hi, well my brother in-law lives in Berlin, so I may go again and will let you guys know. I did take the 6€ tour, we walked the factory floor, saw the last Phaeton that was built there, on display with all the signatures. We did not have time to eat at the restaurant there, they were going to have an event, so we had to leave soon.

    A little video I made of the Volkswagen ID with a phone camera ... https://youtu.be/zwAcnI-oBfo


    drpeter

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    What an abomination
    But my, is that a VW Polo in the background??? Used to have one MY76 or something, 900cm3 engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jyoung8607 View Post
    ...I should imagine they'd do the same for one of your Bentley VINs though since they were also produced there.
    The Bentley vehicles produced in Dresden were all destined for delivery to either Europe or Asia. The factory in Crewe, United Kingdom, produced Bentleys destined for North America, in order to preserve the belief that a Bentley was a British vehicle.

    This worked out well in the end: The Americans could keep up their belief that they were buying British cars, and the Europeans were more confident about buying a Bentley (the Flying Spur) because it was produced in Germany and not in the UK.

    Michael

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