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    A4 20TFSI QUATRO 2010 OVER FUELING

    Hi Guys Audi A4 20tfsi Q CDN came in over fueling badly only 105000km on the clock.
    only fault was mixture to rich,we replaced new injectors from agents,and decated the exhaust still no luck
    cold its ok then as she warms up starts puffing out black smoke until she cuts out and plugs are wet with fuel.
    any suggestions ?

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    Please post an Auto-Scan for context.

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Code:
    Monday,20,May,2019,10:50:42:16946
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4436.4
    Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    Dealer/Shop Name: AUDI VW AUTO CLINIC
    Workshop Code: 996 02232 000010
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ8K6CA097093   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 8K-AU48 (8T0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 42 46 47 52 53 55 56 62 72 77
             
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ8K6CA097093   Mileage: 105510km-65560miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (CL0MA-CDNC)       Labels:| 06H-907-115-CAB.clb
       Part No SW: 8K2 907 115 P    HW: 8K2 907 115 D
       Component: 2.0l R4/4V TF H20 0009  
       Revision: E1H20---    
       Coding: 0104000C240F0160
       Shop #: WSC 06324 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS8K2907115P A01011
       ROD: EV_ECM20AVS.rod
       VCID: 3C34D153B72995AAC1-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 1110 0101
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels:| 0B5-927-156.clb
       Part No SW: 8K1 927 156 G    HW: 0B5 927 156 F
       Component: 0B5 20TFSIRdW H10 0009  
       Revision: --H10---    Serial number: 0000000645
       Coding: 000001
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDL501 A02087
       ROD: EV_TCMDL501.rod
       VCID: 393AC847B81BA082DA-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 8K0-907-379-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 379 BG    HW: 8K0 907 379 BG
       Component: ESP8 quattro  H04 0020  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 090500
       Shop #: WSC 06324 000 00000
       VCID: 7F4EE65FEEBF4EB2A4-802A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 CC    HW: 8K0 907 064 CC
       Component: BCM2 2.0      H05 0435  
       Revision: 00002001    
       Coding: 011100
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 73A63A6FD2F71AD2D0-8026
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 959 754 D    HW: 8T0 959 754 D
       Component: FBSAUDIB8 IDG  H60 0072 
       Serial number: 0811000184858007    
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 D    HW: 8K0 905 852 D
       Component: J764 ELV MLB  H37 0042 
       Serial number: 2311000239308006    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:. 8Tx-820-043-3Z.clb
       Part No SW: 8T2 820 043 AF    HW: 8T2 820 043 AF
       Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H08 0180  
       Revision: D0000000    Serial number: 01141120110232
       Coding: 64040000
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 76A0037BC1850FFAF7-8022
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 8K0-907-063.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 N    HW: 8K0 907 063 N
       Component: BCM1 1.0      H30 0392  
       Revision: 09030001    Serial number: 00000001123954
       Coding: 2600D0914034AF010001000000001D0D0F1D430802010141000000
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 3A38D74BB51DAB9AD3-806E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K2 955 119 A    HW: 8T2 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: WWS 061111  H06 0070 
       Serial number: SWF11110065132      
       Coding: 00FD11
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 955 559     HW: 8K0 955 559   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
       Component: RLS  H04 0003 
       Serial number: 11773079            
       Coding: 025028
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AS    HW: 8K0 941 531 AS
       Component: E1 - LDS  H03 0031 
       Serial number: 00000000002810111272
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:* 8K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 L    HW: 8K0 959 655 L
       Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H44 0610  
       Serial number: 003JMD0HDJL+  
       Coding: 30533435363030303030554A3052384B3053
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 003010
       ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_003_AU48.rod
       VCID: 46C0B3BBF9E5DF7AA7-8012
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 6334MSME671239359
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 6344MSME65524F7CU
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
       Serial number: 6352QSME38643358H
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
       Serial number: 6362QSME38643D7AW
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 63732SME40631270M
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 63832SME40630E44Z
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:. 8K0-953-568.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 953 568 F    HW: 8K0 953 568 F
       Component: Lenks.Modul   H17 0014  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 90372KK9001AN 
       Coding: 000036
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 3D32DC57A4339CA2F6-8068
    
       Component: E221 - MFL  H02 0010 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:. 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 920 930 M    HW: 8K0 920 930 M
       Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H31 0258  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: EJ84214CC     
       Coding: 2F06090002000008010000
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 373ECE7F860FB6F22C-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 8T0-907-468.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 907 468 AF    HW: 8T0 907 468 H
       Component: GW-BEM 5CAN   H06 0120  
       Revision: GB901054    Serial number: 5400G11B0281CE
       Coding: 00C303
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 054274B78C631462EE-8050
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 915 181     HW: 8T0 915 181 
       Component: J367-BDMHella  H03 8040 
       Serial number: 5118785801          
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 8K0-959-793.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 959 793 M    HW: 8T0 959 793 D
       Component: TSG FA        H08 1501  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 011C02204001410001
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 53E69AEF32B77AD230-8006
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-46.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 CC    HW: 8K0 907 064 CC
       Component: BCM2 2.0      H05 0435  
       Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0163286618    
       Coding: 011E062200B904008130013280000000
       Shop #: WSC 03163 996 87872
       VCID: 73A63A6FD2F71AD2D0-8026
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8K0 951 177 
       Component: DWA-Sensor  H02 0040 
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels:. 8T0-035-223-ASC.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 035 223 AH    HW: 8T0 035 223 
       Component: DSP STD       H07 0230  
       Revision: S2200000    
       Coding: 0203010102
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 74A43973D7F91DEAC9-8020
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 8K0-959-792.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 959 792 M    HW: 8T0 959 792 D
       Component: TSG BF        H08 1501  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 011C02204001410001
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 52E89FEB0DAD73DA3B-8006
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake (J540)       Labels: 8K0-907-801-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 H    HW: 8K0 907 801 H
       Component: EPB Audi B8   H09 0100  
       Revision: 00000003    Serial number: 20000000145102
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 3424F97397795DEA09-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range (J431)       Labels:| 8X0-907-357.clb
       Part No SW: 4H0 907 357 B    HW: 4H0 907 357 B
       Component: ....LWR12.... H02 0010  
       Serial number: 111109-0002-034
       Coding: 1171A41010000200
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulBasic 005001
       ROD: EV_HeadlRegulBasic.rod
       VCID: 2D12EC177C530C2246-8078
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 8Tx-035-1xx-56.clb
       Part No SW: 8T2 035 186 P    HW: 8T2 035 186 P
       Component: Concert3      H06 0350  
       Revision: 00000011    Serial number: AUZ5Z6K1669305
       Coding: 0502008201018D000359070000
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 45C2B4B7CCE3D462AE-8010
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 603 F    HW: 8T0 919 603 F
       Component: Display  
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 8K0-959-795.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 959 795 N    HW: 8T0 959 795 B
       Component: TSG HL        H06 1501  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 010C02204001210001
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 56E063FB21456FFAD7-8002
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 8K0-959-794.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 959 795 N    HW: 8T0 959 795 B
       Component: TSG HR        H06 1501  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 010C02204001210001
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 56E063FB21456FFAD7-8002
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
       Part No SW: 8T0 862 335 F    HW: 8T0 862 335 E
       Component: FSE_256x BT     H45 0660  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000005447011
       Coding: 0010390
       Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
       VCID: 3D32DC5764339CA2F6-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:30, VBatt start/end: 12.7V/12.7V)-----------
    Last edited by Uwe; 05-20-2019 at 10:00 AM. Reason: CODE tags

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    first fault found
    bank 1,system too rich at idle
    P2188/00(101)
    fault status 0000001
    fault priority 2
    fault frequency 2

    engine speed 813.00/min
    normal load value 12.9%
    coolest temp 97deg
    intake temp 39 deg
    ambient air pressue 1010mbar
    voltage terminal 30 14.065v

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    Scratching head. My first reaction was that the ECU might not be seeing the engine warming up (temperature sensor problem), but that seems to be shot down by the freeze-frame data of 97deg.

    I would check fuel pressure next.

    IDE00201 -- High fuel pressure: specified value
    IDE00589-ENG167462 -- Fuel pressure OBD

    -Uwe-
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    thanks Uwe..will do so

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