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    DSG and stop start

    Hi

    Hoping someone can give me either some advice or point me the right direction

    Car is a 2015 my GTD with the DSG

    The DSG when the stop start is activated pauses to engage after the vehicle restarts and there is literally a 2 second pause before the clutch on the dsg engages

    If you hit the accelerator then it bumps as the clutch engages, if the engine is running then it works perfectly

    I’ve done the basic settings and everything else works as it should it just has this annoying habit when using the stop start

    Is it either a feature of the gearbox or do I need to set up something else, no fault codes showing it’s just really annoying...

    Any advice greatly appreciated

    Thanks


    Ian

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    Ian, please post an auto scan, thank you.


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    Last edited by Uwe; 05-06-2019 at 10:30 AM. Reason: Added link

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    Hi Larry,

    Apologies for the delay

    Ian

    Code:
    Chassis Type: AU-VW37 (5Q0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 10 13 15 16 17 19 20 2B 42 44 47 52 55 5F
              A9
    
    VIN: WVWZZZAUZFW153245   Mileage: 121229km-75328miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: OK 0000
    2B-Steer. Col. Lock -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    A9-Struct. Borne Sound -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CUNA)       Labels:. 04L-907-309-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 04L 906 021 EQ    HW: 04L 907 309 A
       Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H22 7540  
       Revision: 81H22---    
       Coding: 011D0012036505083000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906021EQ 002008
       ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906021ER.rod
       VCID: 78F8497EC390888AE5-802C
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels: 0D9-927-770.clb
       Part No SW: 0D9 300 041 Q    HW: 02E 927 770 AQ
       Component: DQ250-6F MQB  H53 4504  
       Revision: 05853104    Serial number: TFK01410060431
       Coding: 0014
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ250021 001001
       ROD: EV_TCMDQ250021.rod
       VCID: 2644570659A4CE7A87-8072
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 379 M    HW: 5Q0 907 379 H
       Component: ESC           H31 0571  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 62874000000185
       Coding: 01FA8AA13425096F0379060441C82980512C90C0608294F5F8625078C209
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 033001
       ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_033_VW37.rod
       VCID: 4684F786F9E42E7AA7-8012
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J518)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-435.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 435 A    HW: 5Q0 959 435 
       Component: VWKESSYMQB    021 0604  
       Revision: 00021000    Serial number: 0349298287
       Coding: 030C0C
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB 002011
       ROD: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB_002.rod
       VCID: 3A7C9376BD1C5A9AD3-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5G0-907-044.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 907 044 AN    HW: 5G0 907 044 AN
       Component: Climatronic   H03 0907  
       Revision: 00001K08    
       Coding: 00120114202400011005000200101000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X 003018
       ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X_003_VW37.rod
       VCID: 73E27E52DAF6EBD2D0-8026
    
       Fresh Air Blower Front: 
    
       Refrigerant Pressure And Temperature Sender: 
    
       Air quality sensor: 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:| 5Q0-937-08X-HV1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 AJ    HW: 5Q0 937 084 AJ
       Component: BCM MQBAB H   H18 0137  
       Serial number: 01011428902739
       Coding: 03111B66C20122FB0B244080B10C07281800000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMCONTI 013000
       ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_013.rod
       VCID: 0008219E9B40C04ADD-8054
    
       Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G2 955 119 A    HW: 5G2 955 119 A  Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
       Component: WWS    141010  042 0551 
       Serial number:         141013164524
       Coding: 0E4DDD
    
       Rain Light Recognition Sensor: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 547 A    HW: 5Q0 955 547 A  Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
       Component: RLHS  037 0059 
       Serial number: S4Y14M10D23H15M38S35
       Coding: 00A8EE
    
       Sensor For Anti Theft Alarm System: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 172     HW: 5Q0 951 172 
       Component: Sensor, DWA  005 0315 
       Serial number: 000000000ZY1426125LA
    
       Alarm horn: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605     HW: 5Q0 951 605 
       Component: Sirene, DWA  004 0311 
       Serial number: 00000000000060660992
    
       Sun Roof: 
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 8V3 959 591 A    HW: 8V3 959 591 A
       Component: J245 PS73.404  H02 0003 
       Serial number: 0000FST00007HRF00000
       Coding: 181901
    
    1 Fault Found:
    197644 - Control Circuit for Fuel Tank Flap 
              B1263 01 [009] - Electrical Failure
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 201
                        Mileage: 121061 km
                        Date: 2019.04.06
                        Time: 08:21:08
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-294.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 919 294 E    HW: 5Q0 919 294 A
       Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H03 0048  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 39331428209346
       Coding: 0071051011
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 002024
       ROD: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000_002_VW37.rod
       VCID: 3D76986AAC326DA2F6-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-572-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 572 D    HW: 5Q0 907 572 D
       Component: ACC Bosch MQB H05 0304  
       Serial number: 16101403272545
       Coding: 001C1300FE0739
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372 001015
       ROD: EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372_VW26.rod
       VCID: 3878897E8310488A25-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 AA    HW: 5Q0 959 655 AA
       Component: AirbagVW20    014 0386  
       Serial number: 003MLR09LPHG
       Coding: 98CCC000000000005C0000CF00C800000065
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002130
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X.rod
       VCID: 7F0AA262E6BEBFB2A4-802A
    
       Belt Pretensioner left: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 945 B    HW: 5G0 980 945 B
       Component: BeltPretRevFL  H35 0341 
       Serial number: 34169661C06101440307
       Coding: 333135
    
       Belt Pretensioner right: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 946 B    HW: 5G0 980 946 B
       Component: BeltPretRevFR  H35 0341 
       Serial number: 34169662C02101470074
       Coding: 333135
    
       Side Sensor Driver Front: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 810 14
       Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
       Serial number: 357670000008B420311F
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 810 14
       Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
       Serial number: 3586700000085781311K
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 910 14
       Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3516502A1175A9258251
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
       Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 910 14
       Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3526502C5175A9055231
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Front Sensor Driver: 
       Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 610 14
       Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149 
       Serial number: 3556502AB18166B231EE
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 953 507 EC    HW: 5Q0 953 549 C
       Component: Lenks. Modul  002 0110  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 16101404220629
       Coding: 0C10
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 017001
       ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_VW37.rod
       VCID: 7BF25672F2A6A39288-802E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
       Part No SW: 5G1 920 957     HW: 5G1 920 957 
       Component: KOMBI         301 4270  
       Coding: 27AD01182F80260001886A011400000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009037
       ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW37.rod
       VCID: 6DD6682ABCD23D2206-8038
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 T    HW: 5Q0 907 530 F
       Component: GW MQB High   128 1188  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 0002605074
       Coding: 030100040B087300EF00027E1C0F00010001050000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 011016
       ROD: EV_GatewLear_011_VW37.rod
       VCID: 428CEB96D5CC125A8B-8016
    
       Alternator: 
    
       Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 959 442 N    HW: 5G0 959 442 N  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H10 0038 
       Serial number: 29140002220950014414
       Coding: 2DFFFF
    
       Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 E    HW: 5Q0 915 181 E
       Component: J367-BDMHella  H03 8043 
       Serial number: 4522884703          
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844)       Labels:| 8X0-857-511.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 857 511 D    HW: 5G0 857 511 D
       Component: FLA           H05 0002  
       Revision: AA001001    
       Coding: 02028867727261565623393E01
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_HighBeamAssisAU37X 001009
       ROD: EV_HighBeamAssisAU37X.rod
       VCID: 2B52A6324246F31258-807E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 2B: Steer. Col. Lock (J764)       Labels:* 5Q0-905-861.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 905 861 A    HW: 5Q0 905 861 A
       Component: ELV-MQBA      H01 0120  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 14000285865004
       Coding: 5D00000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ELVMarquMQB 004111
       ROD: EV_ELVMarquMQB.rod
       VCID: 3460BD4E9F78ACEA09-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 593 D    HW: 5Q0 959 593 B
       Component: TSG FS        020 0028  
       Serial number: 26091402090200
       Coding: 003F1220D001048100001000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO 006003
       ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 428CEB96D5CC125A8B-8016
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 3Q0 909 144 F    HW: 3Q0 909 144 F
       Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  503 5043  
       Coding: 8103
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 010031
       ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_010.rod
       VCID: 3566804A9402B5E23E-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels:| 5G0-035-456.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 035 456     HW: 5G0 035 456 
       Component: MIB_lite_amp  H40 0060  
       Serial number: VWZ8Z1EC401SPW0
       Coding: 120000008AAA8A0000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AMPMst12C1ALPI 001005
       ROD: EV_AMPMst12C1ALPI.rod
       VCID: 63C20E126A167B52A0-8036
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
       Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 D    HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
       Component: TSG BFS       020 0028  
       Serial number: 06101401101769
       Coding: 003F1020DE01048100801000
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
       ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
       VCID: 418EE49AD0CA094292-8014
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range (J745)       Labels:| 7P6-907-357.clb
       Part No SW: 7P6 907 357 D    HW: 7P6 907 357 A
       Component: AFS-ECU       H07 0090  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 029E01000B010200
       Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSMQB 001120
       ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSMQB.rod
       VCID: 4088E19EDBC0004A9D-8014
    
       Left Headlamp Power Output Stage: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3D0 941 329 E    HW: 3D0 941 329 E  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
       Component: LeiMo links  H01 0002 
       Coding: 2E0000
    
       Right Headlamp Power Output Stage: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 3D0 941 329 E    HW: 3D0 941 329 E  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
       Component: LeiMo rechts  H01 0002 
       Coding: 2E0000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-HGH1.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 035 020 D    HW: 5G0 035 020 D
       Component: MU-H-ND-EU    H43 0407  
       Serial number: A310J0EB006645
       Coding: 027300010000000011111202000800031F0202E60100010057
       Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUHig4CHBAS 001040
       ROD: EV_MUHig4CHBAS_VW37.rod
       VCID: 1A3C73F61DDC7A9A33-804E
    
       Operating And Display Unit 1: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 919 606     HW: 5G0 919 606 
       Component: ABT_High  H61 0030 
       Serial number: VWZ8Z9PS100WKE      
    
       Data medium: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: V03 959 806 ET    HW: -----------
       Component: ECE 2019  --- 0175 
       Serial number: --------------------
    
       Compact Disc Database: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: V03 959 800 EG    HW: -----------
       Component: Gracenote  --- 1010 
       Serial number: --------------------
    
    2 Faults Found:
    1555 - Check Software Version Management 
              B201A 00 [009] -  - 
              [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 201
                        Mileage: 121061 km
                        Date: 2019.04.06
                        Time: 08:18:57
    
                        Voltage terminal 30: 12.1 V
                        Status_Software_Version_Management-SW_VersMgtInfo: MDUV101/ABT     
    
    1556 - Internal Control Module Memory Check Sum Error 
              B2000 87 [009] - Missing message
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 201
                        Mileage: 121061 km
                        Date: 2019.04.06
                        Time: 08:19:07
    
                        Voltage terminal 30: 12.1 V
                        Software module: status-SW_Status_Consistency: 00 20 00
                        Software module: status-SW_Status_DevName: Dab          
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address A9: Struct. Borne Sound (J869)       Labels: 4H0-907-159.clb
       Part No SW: 5G0 907 159     HW: 4H0 907 159 A
       Component: SAS-GEN 2     H06 0014  
       Serial number: 140909200868
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X 003010
       ROD: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X.rod
       VCID: 6BD2663282C6331218-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 05:22)--------

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    Quote Originally Posted by GXCars View Post
    Hi

    Hoping someone can give me either some advice or point me the right direction

    Car is a 2015 my GTD with the DSG

    The DSG when the stop start is activated pauses to engage after the vehicle restarts and there is literally a 2 second pause before the clutch on the dsg engages

    If you hit the accelerator then it bumps as the clutch engages, if the engine is running then it works perfectly

    I’ve done the basic settings and everything else works as it should it just has this annoying habit when using the stop start

    Is it either a feature of the gearbox or do I need to set up something else, no fault codes showing it’s just really annoying...

    Any advice greatly appreciated

    Thanks


    Ian
    It’s the stop/start that will get you killed. Disable it.

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    I'm trying to be kind to the planet and save fuel !

    But I agree its annoying...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kawzx7 View Post
    It’s the stop/start that will get you killed. Disable it.
    The problem you have is commented on frequently by owners of DSG equipped Skoda Octavia on briskoda.net - plus they also comment on how the engine stops BEFORE the vehicle comes to a halt, which means the steering assist stops too.

    Seems VAG haven't got the integration of DSG and stop/start correctly setup yet - after MANY years of trying

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