Hi Symb I have sent you a message.
Thank you
Scott
The sensor fusion is used for front assist functions. It does not extend the acc range but both sensor complement each others information. For example pedestrian detection uses both camera and acc radar information.
Like written on those SSP inserts you attached, it is a separate bus to prevent other module communication to cause interference.
Thanks Symb, I think the time to take over the steering wheel depend on A5 firmware version. Mine is very old!!!
Ok, thanks for your reply. I wait for Symb adamap because I'm curious but altogether, this menu is really unuseful...
But it's still Symb-s post that made me start this retrofit. So I'm really waiting for adamap and coding A5 5F...please
My bad, I meant to say it boosts the max speed that you can use ACC in, when both front radar and A5 camera are involved, if I remember correctly?
ACC radar type is the factor here. MRR is max 160/h and LRR is 210km/h. I’ve not read or heard that camera would increase the ACC max speed.
Autonomous braking uses the camera information together with radar.
MRR – Middle Range Radar – (up to 160m, up to 160km/h or up to 210km/h in conjunction kamerą Lane Assist) – flat shape.
LRR radars were mounted on early released Golf MK7 and Skoda Octavia 3 (version G, with software limitation up to 160km/h). This type of a radar is more sensitive and more precise then the MRR but it’s also much more expensive – over 900 euro. Audi A3 is still factory equipped with LRR radar as a premium segment representative. Since the middle 2013 VW started mountingt MRR radars in order to cost cuts (price of a brand new MRR unit is around 400 euros). MRR radars has shorter range and sensitivity, in order to provide 210km/h range they need to be used with A5 Front Camera.
To be more precise, you can find three types of radars:
Edit: In fact my car first demanded to take over the steering wheel in like 10 seconds? I don't remember what exactly did I do for it to change... Hmmm.
IDE07596-Personalization of lane dept. warning Cl. 15 on,activated ,1
IDE10871-System mode: lane depart. warn:,Selection via menu ,1
ENG122227-ENG117486-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_ACC,not activated ,60
ENG122227-ENG117490-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_ACC_after_disclaimer,not activated ,60
ENG122227-ENG117487-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_ACC_operation_clamp_15_off,not activated ,60
ENG122227-ENG117488-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_ACC_over_threshold_high,activated ,60
ENG122227-ENG117489-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_ACC_standstill,not activated ,
ENG122229-ENG117700-Car_Function_List_BAP_Gen2-ACC_0x05,not activated ,64
ENG122229-ENG117701-Car_Function_List_BAP_Gen2-ACC_0x05_msg_bus,Databus extended ,64
That's what I thought.
Those two lines are on my A5 adamap but not on your's.
Code:IDE07596-Personalization of lane dept. warning Cl. 15 on,activated ,1 IDE10871-System mode: lane depart. warn:,Selection via menu ,1
So I think warning menu intensity is linked to the firmware.
I also noticed that you don't have enabled ACC menu on 5F???
Code:ENG122227-ENG117486-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_ACC,not activated ,60 ENG122227-ENG117490-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_ACC_after_disclaimer,not activated ,60 ENG122227-ENG117487-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_ACC_operation_clamp_15_off,not activated ,60 ENG122227-ENG117488-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_ACC_over_threshold_high,activated ,60 ENG122227-ENG117489-Car_Function_Adaptations_Gen2-menu_display_ACC_standstill,not activated , ENG122229-ENG117700-Car_Function_List_BAP_Gen2-ACC_0x05,not activated ,64 ENG122229-ENG117701-Car_Function_List_BAP_Gen2-ACC_0x05_msg_bus,Databus extended ,64
From a polish site.
;SW:3Q0-980-654-H HW:3Q0-980-654-A --- Frt Sens. Drv. Assist
;Component:MQB_B_MFK H06 0272, Coding:000307060000040100220047C056890088000E200040
;EV_MFKBoschMQBB,001001,EV_MFKBoschMQBB_001_VW36.rod
;Saturday,23,November,2019,15:36:11:44693
;VCDS Version: Test 19.9.3 (x64) Data version: 20190930 DS314.0
;VCID: 3C2A5FB846E14EB7C21-8068
IDE00001-Production mode,Deactivating ,3
IDE00820-ENG130919-Activating and deactivating all development messages-Activation_of_development_messages_EHR,not activated ,1
IDE00820-ENG130920-Activating and deactivating all development messages-Activation_of_development_messages_HCA_lane,not activated ,1
IDE00820-ENG130921-Activating and deactivating all development messages-Activation_of_development_messages_HCA_state,not activated ,1
IDE00820-ENG130922-Activating and deactivating all development messages-Activation_of_development_messages_internal,not activated ,1
IDE00820-ENG130916-Activating and deactivating all development messages-Activation_of_development_messages_lane,not activated ,1
IDE00820-ENG130915-Activating and deactivating all development messages-Activation_of_development_messages_reserved,not activated ,1
IDE00820-ENG130918-Activating and deactivating all development messages-Activation_of_development_messages_VZF/TSR,not activated ,1
IDE00820-ENG130917-Activating and deactivating all development messages-Activation_of_development_messages_WLA,not activated ,1
IDE02332-Deactivate production mode,0 ,3
IDE04160-Direct. stab. assist speed threshold during towing mode,300 km/h,2
IDE04733-Road sign detection fusion mode,Road sign fusion ,1
IDE06425-Roller test bench mode: functional,not activated ,1
IDE07358-Distance to calibration field,1500 mm,2
IDE09375-IDE05717-Axle offset-Front axle transverse position,5.96046e-006 mm,4
IDE09375-IDE05718-Axle offset-Rear axle transverse position,-3.99999 mm,4
IDE09376-IDE02001-Body height wheel house edge-Body height left front wheel house edge,783 mm,8
IDE09376-IDE02002-Body height wheel house edge-Body height right front wheel house edge,783 mm,8
IDE09376-IDE02003-Body height wheel house edge-Body height left rear wheel house edge,790 mm,8
IDE09376-IDE02004-Body height wheel house edge-Body height right rear wheel house edge,790 mm,8
IDE09391-MAS08824-Calibration target position-Target 1: calibration mark 1: x-coordinate,2460 mm,24
IDE09391-MAS08825-Calibration target position-Target 1: calibration mark 1: y-coordinate,742 mm,24
IDE09391-MAS08826-Calibration target position-Target 1: calibration mark 1: z-coordinate,1697 mm,24
IDE09391-MAS08827-Calibration target position-Target 1: calibration mark 2: x-coordinate,2460 mm,24
IDE09391-MAS08828-Calibration target position-Target 1: calibration mark 2: y-coordinate,-742 mm,24
IDE09391-MAS08829-Calibration target position-Target 1: calibration mark 2: z-coordinate,1697 mm,24
IDE09391-MAS08830-Calibration target position-Target 1: calibration mark 3: x-coordinate,2460 mm,24
IDE09391-MAS08831-Calibration target position-Target 1: calibration mark 3: y-coordinate,742 mm,24
IDE09391-MAS08832-Calibration target position-Target 1: calibration mark 3: z-coordinate,1103 mm,24
IDE09391-MAS08833-Calibration target position-Target 1: calibration mark 4: x-coordinate,2460 mm,24
IDE09391-MAS08834-Calibration target position-Target 1: calibration mark 4: y-coordinate,-742 mm,24
IDE09391-MAS08835-Calibration target position-Target 1: calibration mark 4: z-coordinate,1103 mm,24
IDE10407-Personalization of intervention moment at T. 15 on,Last setting ,1
IDE10870-Switch-on condition: lane depart. warn.,on (setting via menu) ,1
IDE10872-Warning intensity: lane depart. warning,Selection via menu ,1
IDE10873-BAP personalization,activated ,1
IDE10924-MAS02479-Initial calibration: result-Yaw angle,-0.315 °,8
IDE10924-MAS05286-Initial calibration: result-Roll angle,0.269 °,8
IDE10924-MAS05287-Initial calibration: result-Pitch angle,-0.113 °,8
IDE10924-MAS10678-Initial calibration: result-Camera height,1476 mm,8
ENG130776-ENG130840-Adaptation_tsr-Par_country_code_RSR,0 ,3
ENG130776-ENG130841-Adaptation_tsr-Par_country_code_VZF,0 ,3
ENG130776-ENG130838-Adaptation_tsr-Par_country_mode,automatic ,3
ENG130776-ENG130839-Adaptation_tsr-Par_relevance_mode,Enabled ,3
ENG120319-Mask_error_reactions_for_development,not activated ,1
ENG107577-Masked_fault_classes-,255 ,4
ENG107577-Masked_fault_classes-,255 ,4
ENG107577-Masked_fault_classes-,255 ,4
ENG107577-Masked_fault_classes-,255 ,4
ENG130777-standstill_mode,not activated ,1
ENG130781-ENG130836-WLA_adjustment-BrightnessThreshold_active,1 ,5
ENG130781-ENG130837-WLA_adjustment-BrightnessThreshold_passive,20 ,5
ENG130779-Xcp_interface,not activated ,1
Elapsed Time: 00:07
I don't think that's correct information.
I propose to read this one, this explains very well the whole driver assist scheme : https://vwts.ru/pps/pps_890253_vw_driver_assistance_systems_eng.pdf
Only thing the front camera adds is an advance warning up to 210km/h with MRR radars but it does not extend the radar range itself. The limitation of the radar is still 160km/h.
Quote :
Multifunctional Front Camera
This camera detects vehicles that may be invisible to the
front radar system by using an actual camera to monitor the
area in front of the vehicle.
The camera monitors the area in front of the vehicle when
stationary, preparing for a restart of the ACC system. It can
also detect lane markings for lane departure warning (Lane
Assist)
I really don't see how it could detect object farther away reliably if it's designed to monitor the front of the vehicle?