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    B6 Passat DQ500 retrofit project

    Hi All,

    The mechatronics in my 2009 R36 is starting to fail. It's an older revision that's not worth reconditioning.
    So rather than replace the mechatronics with a new revision, and renewing the clutches, I'm considering instead going for a DQ500 retrofit. Mainly for durability and also for a longer cruising gear. Not chasing power upgrades at this stage (but would be good to have the option down the track).

    I'm in the information gathering stage at this point and would really appreciate any insight.

    I'm looking at a 2013 Tiguan 2.0TSI 132kw that has 58k kms on it. DSG PN is 0BH300012B. Gearbox code NYE.
    Is this a suitable donor? Another possibility is a 2015 with gearbox code NZT.

    A possible list of parts I might need:

    - Transfer/bevel box
    - Drive shafts, left + right
    - Starter motor (is this only needed in turbo engines due to clearance issues?)
    - Gearbox body mounts
    - linkage adapter, or DQ500 shift mechanism complete as cable is slightly longer
    - suspension subframe
    - transfer box arm
    - A few 90 degree elbows for DSG cooler pipes
    - connector for TCU 8P0971499A

    I have some suitable aftermarket TCU software lined up.

    Do I need to swap the dual mass flywheel for a different version, or is it just a good idea to renew it given the trans is out?

    Plan would be to get the car up on the hoist, sit the DQ500 underneath and plug it in via the adapter and check that I can see some valid MVBs and code it. Then proceed if it looks OK.
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    Looks like I'd also need an adapter between the face of the trans and engine as the angle of interface between the two is different for 4/5 cylinder engines when compared to VR6...starting to look a bit more involved than I'd like for my daily drive. Can't have it sitting for a few weeks while I work out the kinks
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    It's defo a worthwhile retrofit and you're defo better off replacing the flywheel. However I suspect the end cost will be eye watering and the list of modifications will skyrocket. You might be able to source custom made adapter plates for the mounting. In Europe this retrofit has been done only by a few!

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    On other cars, I’ve been able to swap the bellhousing to deal with issues where the doner gearbox for an upgrade sits at a different angle. Is this an option to use an earlier bellhouding on the dq500 box?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhinopower View Post
    On other cars, I’ve been able to swap the bellhousing to deal with issues where the doner gearbox for an upgrade sits at a different angle. Is this an option to use an earlier bellhouding on the dq500 box?
    I'm not sure if it is...is there a car that comes from factory with a VR6 and DQ500? If so then it might be an option. Otherwise I think it's using an adapter plate.
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    I think a modified bell housing might be the way that this is accomplished. Need to find someone who does them...
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    So I've bravely (stupidly??) gone ahead and pushed forward on this project.
    DQ500 is now installed with custom bell housing, driveshafts, starter motor and transfer case from 2013 Tiguan TSI.
    I've repinned the 20pin connector to 16pin connector, omitting the extra power, ground and K Line pins which don's exist for the DQ500 OBH TCU connector.

    The TCU communicates fine and I can see correct gear selector in advanced values, and these are also shown on the cluster.

    However the ECU always shows a gear selection in advanced values of 0, so if I try and start the car it fails and reports car not in Park.

    Looking over the WDs there is a purple/black wire which in my 2009 02E transmission goes from pin 17 at the TCU connector to the J519.
    In the 0BH wiring diagram for a 2013 Tiguan, the purple/black wire goes from pin2 on the TCU connector, to the J519 BCM, but ALSO to the ECU at pin 42.
    My guess is that this is the missing wire which the ECU should be reading the gear selection information from, where it would have read it over the K Line before.

    Has anyone had any experience with this retrofit and can confirm or deny this hypothesis?
    Bonus points for advising which pin on my MED9.1 ECU this should be connected to....

    Code:
    Thursday,22,August,2019,23:13:05:58930
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
    VCDS Version: 19.6.1.0  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4505.4
    Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ3CZ9E08  License Plate: DQ500 IN
    Mileage: 145800km-90595mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 3C-VW46 (7N0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 13 15 16 17 19 22 25 36 42 44 46 47 4F 52
              53 55 5F 62 65 6C 6D 72 A5
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ3CZ9E08   Mileage: 145800km-90595miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
    6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
    6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    A5-Frt Sens. Drv. Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (BWS)       Labels: 03H-906-032-BLV.clb
       Part No SW: 03H 906 032 AM    HW: 03H 906 032 AB
       Component: R3.6-FSI-EU4    F   3488  
       Revision: 5GH04---    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
       Coding: 0000175
       Shop #: WSC 52104 002 1048576
       VCID: 6D87377FB19F9D4F11F-8038
    
    7 Faults Found:
    005748 - Powertrain Data Bus 
                   P1674 - 001 - Implausible Message from Instrument Cluster - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100001
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 4
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 145805 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.08.22
                        Time: 00:06:16
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 14.0°C
                        Temperature: 14.0°C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 11.938 V
    
    005717 - Please check DTC Memory of Auto. Distance Controller 
                   P1655 - 004 -  - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 7
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 145805 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.08.22
                        Time: 00:06:16
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 14.0°C
                        Temperature: 14.0°C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 11.938 V
    
    005715 - Please check DTC Memory of ABS Controller 
                   P1653 - 004 -  - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 145805 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.08.22
                        Time: 00:06:17
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 14.0°C
                        Temperature: 14.0°C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 11.938 V
    
    000256 - Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70) 
                   P0100 - 004 - Supply Voltage
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 145805 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.08.22
                        Time: 00:22:09
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 14.0°C
                        Temperature: -40.0°C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 11.811 V
    
    000275 - Intake Air Temp. Sensor (G42) 
                   P0113 - 002 - Signal too High
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100010
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 145805 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.08.22
                        Time: 00:22:09
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 14.0°C
                        Temperature: -40.0°C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 11.811 V
    
    000256 - Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70) 
                   P0100 - 002 - Supply Voltage
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100010
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 145805 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.08.22
                        Time: 00:22:10
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 14.0°C
                        Temperature: -40.0°C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 11.811 V
    
    049409 - No Communication with Transmission Control Module 
                   U0101 - 008 -  - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101000
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 145805 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.08.22
                        Time: 00:23:08
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 0 /min
                        Load: 0.0 %
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 14.0°C
                        Temperature: -40.0°C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 11.811 V
    
    Readiness: 0110 0101
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels:. 0BH-927-711.clb
       Part No SW: 0BH 300 011 T    HW: 0BH 927 711 C
       Component: DSG DQ500-7A  H07 1808  
       Revision: 00H07V01    
       Coding: 0014
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ500021 001001
       ROD: EV_TCMDQ500021_VW36.rod
       VCID: 3333E1079BBB0BBF07B-8066
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 3AA-614-109.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 698 109 N    HW: 3AA 614 109 AL
       Component: J104   C2 450M VEEC 0042  
       Revision: --H07---    Serial number: 00000007379684
       Coding: 0119716
       Shop #: WSC 11111 111 45799
       VCID: 44D1B2DBC295BC07AE1-8010
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module 
                013 - Check DTC Memory
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101101
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 236
                        Mileage: 145805 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.08.22
                        Time: 01:14:26
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Speed: 0.0 km/h
                        Hex Value: 0x0000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000
                        Voltage: 11.50 V
                        Bin. Bits: 00011111
                        Count: 278
                        Hex Value: 0x0000
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:* None
       Part No SW: -----------    HW: -----------
       Component: Climatronic   0404  
       Revision: --------    
       Coding: 0009000002
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW411 A01001
       ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW411_VW46.rod
       VCID: 6FBB2D77B7136F5F233-803A
    
    1 Fault Found:
    13701424 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s) 
              U1111 00 [009] - -
              [Steuergerät für Bordnetz - kein Signal/Kommunikation]
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 236
                        Mileage: 145805 km
                        Date: 2019.08.22
                        Time: 01:14:26
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
       Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 E    HW: 3C8 937 049 E
       Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2602  
       Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000009027172
       Coding: 668E8F0700041A00470000001E000000000B79435C400120000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 00000
       VCID: 3333E107973B0BBF07B-8066
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C2 955 119 B  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 100908 022  0601  
       Coding: 00047029
       Shop #: WSC 12345  
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
       Component: RLS     121108 054  0402  
       Coding: 00208936
       Shop #: WSC 12345  
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-298.clb
       Part No SW: 1K8 919 475 D    HW: 5Q0 919 298 
       Component: PARKHILFE PLA H12 0480  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 39431711102403
       Coding: 0121164011
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
       ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA2CVW364GP00 001010
       ROD: EV_EPHVA2CVW364GP00_VW36.rod
       VCID: 3B23C927B3EBC3FFDFB-806E
    
    1 Fault Found:
    13639168 - Databus 
              U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
              [Steuergerät für Rear Cross Traffic Alert - RCTA_01 - kein Signal / keine Kommunikation]
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 236
                        Mileage: 145805 km
                        Date: 2019.08.22
                        Time: 01:14:27
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg        Labels: 3AA-907-567.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 907 567 A    HW: 3AA 907 567 
       Component: AC201  RDW A    036 0170  
       Revision: 00036000    Serial number: 00000000569541
       Coding: 0010000
       Shop #: WSC 00046 000 00000
       VCID: 3829D62B8E5DE8E7329-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 959 655     HW: 5N0 959 655 
       Component: J234__00S VW10 HI   1815  
       Revision: 19013000    Serial number: 0039BPMPB81T  
       Coding: 0012371
       Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
       VCID: 7AAD0C23F0D13AF784D-802E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6333FTS665962908 
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6343FTS632552888 
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6353ETS6NTCKVVNR 
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6363ETS640PKVVNR 
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 00000000000000000
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 00000000000000000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 3C0-953-569.clb
       Part No SW: 3C5 953 501 BM    HW: 5K0 953 569 T
       Component: LENKS.MODUL   016 0140  
       Revision: FF010041    Serial number: 20160725000799
       Coding: 399AA50003
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
       ASAM Dataset: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS A03004
       ROD: EV_VW360SteerWheelUDS.rod
       VCID: 71BF2B0FA12779AF357-8024
    
       Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 B    HW: 5K0 959 542 B  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H30 0036 
       Coding: 830000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:. 3C8-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 3AA 920 881     HW: 3AA 920 881 
       Component: KOMBI         H03 0705  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 711F01
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05729
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_005_VW25.rod
       VCID: 71BF2B0FA12779AF357-8024
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 BL    HW: 7N0 907 530 AJ
       Component: J533  Gateway H51 1682  
       Revision:   H51       Serial number: 18011400F15997
       Coding: 352007
       Shop #: WSC 00046 000 00000
       VCID: 7BA30927F3EB03FF9FB-802E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 22: AWD        Labels: 0AY-907-554-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 0BS 907 554 A    HW: 0BS 907 554 A
       Component: Haldex 4Motion      4013  
       Coding: 0000005
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 44D1B2DBC295BC07AE1-8010
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 3C0-959-433-25.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 959 433 B    HW: 3AA 959 433 B
       Component:    IMMO         052 0407  
       Revision: 00052000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
       Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200
       VCID: 3829D62B8E5DE8E7329-806C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C0 905 861 G
       Component:    ELV          027 0380
       3C0905861G     ELV          027 0380   
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: 3C0-959-760.lbl
       Part No SW: 3C0 959 760 E    HW: 3C0 959 760 E
       Component: Sitzverstellung     1101  
       Revision: 00005000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2F3BED777B132F5F633-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 959 701 A    HW: 3C0 959 793 C
       Component: TUER-SG FT    002 0534  
       Revision: 12110009    Serial number: 0008275506
       Coding: 0013F7
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
       ROD: EV_TSGFPQ35BRFVW46X_VW32.rod
       VCID: 3537DF1F95CF158F29F-8060
    
       Slave Driver: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 AB    HW: 1K0 959 794 L
       Component: J389__TSG-HR  004 0307 
       Serial number: 00000000693593      
       Coding: 0000D0
    
    1 Fault Found:
    66048 - Motor for Front Window Regulator 
              B11EC 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 236
                        Mileage: 145805 km
                        Date: 2019.08.22
                        Time: 01:14:26
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
       Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 143    3501  
       Revision: 00H15000    
       Shop #: WSC 00046 000 00000
       VCID: 392FD32FB557F1EFCD7-806C
    
    1 Fault Found:
    03803 - Steering Angle Sensor for Steering Aid 
                000 - - - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11100000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 145805 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.08.22
                        Time: 01:14:24
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Battery Volts: 12.1 V
                            DD
                        Temperature: 17.0°C
                        Count: 2
                        Steering Angle: 0.00°
                        Count: 1
                            SteerAng n.Init
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 3C0-959-433-46.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 959 433 B    HW: 3AA 959 433 B
       Component:    KSG PQ47 ELV 052 0645  
       Revision: 00052000    Serial number: VWZCZ000000000
       Coding: 00900A00D1034E7F000294157008DFCE607841
       Shop #: WSC 11111 111 45725
       VCID: 3829D62B8E5DE8E7329-806C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 3C0 951 171 C
       Component: Neigungssensor  004 0611
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 3C0 951 171 C
       Component: Innenraumueberw.004 0611
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 3C0-035-456.clb
       Part No SW: 3C0 035 456 F    HW: 3C0 035 456 F
       Component: DSP 10 Kanal        0013  
       Revision: 00010000    Serial number: 00000000002780
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2313114727DB9B3FF7B-8076
    
    3 Faults Found:
    00877 - Treble Speaker Rear Right (R16) 
                006 - Short to Plus - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100110
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 20
                        Mileage: 145805 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.08.22
                        Time: 01:14:26
    
    00872 - Bass Speaker Rear Left (R15) 
                006 - Short to Plus
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100110
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 236
                        Mileage: 145805 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.08.22
                        Time: 01:14:27
    
    00873 - Bass Speaker Rear Right (R17) 
                006 - Short to Plus
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100110
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 236
                        Mileage: 145805 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.08.22
                        Time: 01:14:27
    
    
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    Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520)       Labels:. 1K0-907-532.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 532     HW: 7N0 907 530 AJ
       Component: EZE_2         H51 1682  
       Revision:   H51       Serial number: 18011400F15997
       Coding: 00000001
       Shop #: WSC 00046 000 00000
       VCID: 6FBB2D77B7936F5F233-803A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 959 702 A    HW: 3C0 959 792 C
       Component: TUER-SG BT    002 0534  
       Revision: 14110009    Serial number: 0008282177
       Coding: 0013F6
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X A04001
       ROD: EV_TSGBPQ35BRFVW46X_VW32.rod
       VCID: 3635D81388C91E97205-8062
    
       Slave Passenger: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3AA 959 703 A    HW: 3AA 959 795   Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
       Component: J388__TSG-HL  004 0503 
       Serial number: 00000003880813      
       Coding: 0106D0
    
    1 Fault Found:
    66048 - Motor for Front Window Regulator 
              B11EC 54 [009] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 236
                        Mileage: 145805 km
                        Date: 2019.08.22
                        Time: 01:14:26
    
    
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    Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 3AA-907-801.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 907 801 H    HW: 3AA 907 801 H
       Component: J540 EPB4  VW-86594 0010  
       Revision:   H19       Serial number: 00000001024031
       Coding: 0022157
       Shop #: WSC 12345 111 45725
       VCID: 3635D81384491E97205-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 5M0-907-357-V2.lbl
       Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 C    HW: 5M0 907 357 C
       Component: AFS-Steuergeraet    0136  
       Revision: 00H04000    Serial number:               
       Coding: 2311185
       Shop #: WSC 00046 000 00000
       VCID: 3431E21B92350C871E1-8060
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 A  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
       Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l    0004  
       Coding: 00000035
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 A  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
       Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r    0004  
       Coding: 00000035
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
       Part No SW: 5C0 035 680 E    HW: 5C0 035 680 E
       Component: MU-S-ND-ER    H31 0367  
       Serial number: VWZAZ2T5074914
       Coding: 027404010000000011111105400908001F01079600F081014E
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CTSAT 001022
       ROD: EV_MUStd4CTSAT_VW46.rod
       VCID: 231311472B5B9B3FF7B-8076
    
       Data medium: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5NA 919 866 AD    HW: -----------
       Component: MRM3 2020  --- 1310 
       Serial number: --------------------
    
    1 Fault Found:
    1555 - Check Software Version Management 
              B201A 00 [009] - -
              [Check software version management]
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 236
                        Mileage: 145805 km
                        Date: 2019.08.22
                        Time: 01:14:26
    
                        Voltage terminal 30: 11.5 V
                        Status_Software_Version_Management-module_name: 
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502)       Labels: 3AA-907-273.clb
       Part No SW: 3AA 907 273 F    HW: 5Q0 907 273 
       Component: RDKBERU30     H04 0011  
       Serial number: 40000000055443
       ASAM Dataset: EV_RDKBERU30 005005
       ROD: EV_RDKBERU30_005.rod
       VCID: 372BD5178FC3E79F3B3-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6C: Back-up Cam. (J772)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-441.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 441 B    HW: 7N0 907 441 B
       Component: VW428 RVC Mid H04 0040  
       Coding: 01130608A201000700
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
       ASAM Dataset: EV_CamSysRearPANAVW428 002002
       ROD: EV_CamSysRearPANAVW428.rod
       VCID: 3039EE0B6AAD30A77A9-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6D: Trunk Elect.        Labels: 3C9-827-383.clb
       Part No SW: 3C9 827 383 G    HW: 3C9 827 383 G
       Component: J605  HECKDECKEL    0730  
       Revision: 00H27001    
       Shop #: WSC 12345 111 45725
       VCID: 3537DF1F994F158F29F-8060
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3C9 827 384 G
       Component: J756  HECKDECKEL    0730
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 0900H27001001B0191˙
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address A5: Frt Sens. Drv. Assist (R242)       Labels:. 3Q0-980-65X-A5.clb
       Part No SW: 3Q0 980 654 L    HW: 3Q0 980 654 A
       Component: MQB_B_MFK     H04 0610  
       Serial number: 290515null1593
       Coding: 000406040000040100021044C090800090000E10000000
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MFKBoschMQBB 002041
       ROD: EV_MFKBoschMQBB_VW46.rod
       VCID: 40D9BECBDA0DA0278A9-8014
    
    1 Fault Found:
    4195331 - Databus 
              U1123 00 [009] - Received Error Message
              [LH_EPS_03_EPS_HCA_Status]
              Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 236
                        Mileage: 145805 km
                        Date: 2019.08.22
                        Time: 01:14:27
    
                        Control Module temperature: 18 °C
                        Outside air temperature: 12.0 °C
                        Vehicle speed: 0.00 km/h
                        System run time: 45.8 s
                        Voltage terminal 15: 11.4 V
                        mid: 02 A7
                        Status of camera: operational
                        Engine_Running_Info: 1
                        Software_Info_4: 0
                        Software_Info_3: 1
                        Software_Info_2: 6
                        Software_Info_1: 0
    
    
    End----(Elapsed Time: 01:51, VBatt start/end: 11.6V/11.6V. VIgn 11.5V)-----
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    Does it not communicate over can-bus? Is the extra wire the lin bus otherwise?

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    DSG talks fine over can. Gear selector display shows correctly in the cluster.
    That extra wire is for Park signal to BCM. It is only needed to ECU for start stop from what it looks like.
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    OK the issue is actually with the CECM not getting a valid signal from the TCU to indicate the position of the park/neutral this is the fault:
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
    Control Module Part Number: 3C8 937 049 E HW: 3C8 937 049 E
    Component and/or Version: Bordnetz-SG H54 2602
    Software Coding: 668E8F0700041A00470000001E000000000B79435C40012000 0000000000
    Work Shop Code: WSC 12345 123 00000
    Additional Info: 3C2955119B Wischer 100908 022 0601 1K0955559AH RLS 121108 054 0402
    VCID: 3333E107973B0BBF07B-8066
    1 Fault Found:

    02389 - Release Signal Transmission; Position P/N
    008 - Implausible Signal
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 01101000
    Fault Priority: 2
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 236
    Mileage: 145805 km
    Time Indication: 0

    So this is the pin that goes from pin 2 at the DQ500 TCU to pin 7 at the CECM.
    If I pull this pin, or ground it I still get the exact same fault. So the CECM can't determine the status of park/neutral and therefor won't trigger the starter motor.
    Into the interwebs we go.....see if anyone else has had a similar issue
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