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    Quote Originally Posted by tryin2vw View Post
    When in 17-Instruments, blocks 21 and 22 return the ERROR statement.
    Can you dump 24c08 chip and compare it with dumps posted on internet? Maybe chip itself is bad and needs for a change.

    Defeating immo you will never find out what exactly went wrong with this cluster.

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    Jack to do immobilizer delete does he still need to send you cluster, ECU and keys?
    Or just the ECU?

    Good Luck

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    Nope but if he wants to know what's wrong he does or he can just send the engine ecu.

    Dumping the eeprom won't really necessarily give any insight either.
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    Thanks for the support. I suspected it was the cluster after all the troubleshooting and I bought one with the same part number. It was taken to a local tuner I know who cloned the cluster, so same SKC. After some reassembling (the cluster, ECU and a couple of other things), the keys were able to be recognized and immobilizer light is no longer visible or blinking. Thanks for all of the support and guidance.

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    Yup and proves my eeprom point exactly.
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    Now on to finding why the N239 valve shows open or short.

    Last autoscan:
    Code:
    Sunday,28,April,2019,08:54:21:23395
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    Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
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    VIN: 3VWSP69M42M011724   License Plate: 
    Mileage:    Repair Order: me5
    
    
    
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    Chassis Type: 9M (01 - MyVW TDI)
    Scan: 01 03 15 17 19 46
     
    VIN: 3VWSP69M42M011724   
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 038-906-012-AGR.clb
       Part No: 038 906 012 FD
       Component: 1,9l R4 EDC G000SG  4102  
       Coding: 00002
       Shop #: WSC 00066  
       VCID: 57B774EAB55607F2CC-4AE6
       3VWSP69M42M011724     VWZ7Z0A3842382
    
    1 Fault Found:
    19561 - Valve for Intake Manifold Flap (N239) 
                P3105 - 35-10 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
    Readiness: 0 0 1 1 1 
    
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ABS.lbl
       Part No: 1C0 907 379 C
       Component: ABS FRONT MK60      0103  
       Coding: 0004097
       Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
       VCID: 2A51FD1E86A44A1AA3-5120
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
       Part No: 6Q0 909 605 F
       Component: 04 AIRBAG VW6  0202 0004  
       Coding: 12340
       Shop #: WSC 00066  
       VCID: 3A71CD5E2604FA9AD3-5102
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
       Part No: 1J0 920 906 L
       Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V07  
       Coding: 07232
       Shop #: WSC 09519  
       VCID: 3163EA72FB7239C262-5102
       3VWSP69M42M011724     VWZ7Z0A3842382
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
       Part No: 6N0 909 901 
       Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001  
       Coding: 00006
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
       VCID: 70E52F7630F870CA2D-5102
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
       Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
       Component: 1H Komfortgerát HLO 0003  
       Coding: 00258
       Shop #: WSC 00066  
       VCID: 3777D46A1516E7F22C-4B00
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801A
       Component: 1H Tőrsteuer.FS KLO 0002  
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802A
       Component: 1H Tőrsteuer.BF KLO 0002  
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811A
       Component: 1H Tőrsteuer.HL KLO 0002  
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812A
       Component: 1H Tőrsteuer.HR KLO 0002  
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:14)--------------------------
    The current N239 is new within 6 months due to the old one being 17 years old and it crumbled.
    Last edited by tryin2vw; 04-28-2019 at 09:07 AM. Reason: added N239 information

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    You may have used substandard part or hooked up backward causing a pull, but check wiring for FOD!
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    Bought it a Febi, pn 1K0-906-283. The N239 coil has a resistance of about 33 ohms and operates easily from the battery. I followed a vacuum diagram when connecting it, even used a different color tube to make sure the connections were on the correct ports.

    With a cold engine, there is a bit over 10 V across the connector, so I suspect chaffed wires or FOD somewhere. I did not go to ground from either side.

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    It's only two wires, so stop dicking around and overlay or change controller if found faulty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tryin2vw View Post
    Bought it a Febi, pn 1K0-906-283. The N239 coil has a resistance of about 33 ohms and operates easily from the battery. I followed a vacuum diagram when connecting it, even used a different color tube to make sure the connections were on the correct ports.

    With a cold engine, there is a bit over 10 V across the connector, so I suspect chaffed wires or FOD somewhere. I did not go to ground from either side.
    Pull that isolation from top of the connector and most likely you will find meted wires to each other, This happens because of the heat in back of the engine over years and that isolation will keep heat to much, Repair wires and just put GOOD electrical tape instead that isolation.
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