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    Adapting instrumenr cluster

    Hello!

    In a few posts i have mentioning that i ordered a new instrument cluster, and that was just put in and the car started. Lucky for me since the seller didnt send the pin for instrument cluster.

    Sooo, my immo is "deleted" or removed or something from a tuner. But immo lights are flashing..

    Even if the immo is "deleted" can i adapt the cluster to the ecu so i can get rid of the blinking immo light?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krish View Post
    Hello!

    In a few posts i have mentioning that i ordered a new instrument cluster, and that was just put in and the car started. Lucky for me since the seller didnt send the pin for instrument cluster.

    Sooo, my immo is "deleted" or removed or something from a tuner. But immo lights are flashing..

    Even if the immo is "deleted" can i adapt the cluster to the ecu so i can get rid of the blinking immo light?
    It will be very difficult for anyone to provide meaningful answers here without knowing what kind of car this is.

    Of course there is always the low-tech approach too.

    -Uwe-
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    ah so sorry about that! it is an 2000 mod audi a4 b5 1.8tqs

    here is the auto scan:

    Code:
    Tuesday,16,April,2019,21:36:26:20400
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4437.4
    Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    Mileage: 243230km-151136mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
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    Chassis Type: 8D - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B5 (1995 > 2002)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 25 35 37 45 55 56 57 67 75 76 77
     
       Mileage: 243230km-151136miles
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    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 058-907-557-AJL.lbl
       Part No: 8D0 907 558 DA
       Component: 1.8L R4/5VT MOTR HS D01  
       Coding: 04001
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
       VCID: 73B3DE9502A1D39F93F-4B1E
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: N/A
    
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8E0-614-111-EDS.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 614 111 A
       Component: ABS/EDS 5.3 QUATTRO D10  
       Shop #: BB 24334  
       VCID: 1C61D529CFBF3CE7625-51F2
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8D0-820-043-1D.lbl
       Part No: 8D0 820 043 P
       Component: A4     KLIMAAUTOMAT D57  
       Coding: 00040
       Shop #: WSC 06325  
       VCID: 2D0708EDA405C56F05B-259E
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00792 - A/C Pressure Switch (F129) 
                31-00 - Open or Short to Ground
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8D0-959-655-AI8.lbl
       Part No: 8D0 959 655 F
       Component: Airbag Front+Kopf  2001  
       Coding: 00306
       Shop #: WSC 00030  
       VCID: 392F2CBD604D69CF993-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8D0-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No: 8D0 920 980 G
       Component: B5-KOMBIINSTR. VDO D07   
       Coding: 00144
       Shop #: WSC 00050  
       VCID: 2F3B12E5AE09B77F377-5160
    
       Component: AUZ7Z0X1172883  
            AUZ7Z0X1172883
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01176 - Key 
                07-00 - Signal too Low
    01177 - Engine Control Unit 
                49-00 - No Communications
    
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    Address 35: Centr. Locks        Labels:. 8D0-862-257.lbl
       Part No: 8D0 862 257 B
       Component: ZV-Pumpe, Funk      D12  
       Coding: 12865
       Shop #: WSC 06325  
       VCID: 2C0105E99F1FCC67125-4F0C
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01367 - Central Locking Pump Run Time Exceeded (Likely Leak) 
                35-00 -  - 
    
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    Address 45: Inter. Monitor        Labels: 4B0-951-173.lbl
       Part No: 4B0 951 173 
       Component: Innenraumueberw.    D03  
       Coding: 00102
       Shop #: WSC 06325  
       VCID: 6099A1D9A3575807FED-4AA4
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 03:57, VBatt start/end: 12.0V/12.2V)-----------
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    OK, this car is nominally Immo-2, but with "Immo-3 ready" cluster. I don't think there is much that can be done here without the PIN code for the cluster.

    Keys would need to be matched to the cluster to make the immo light stop flashing, and it looks like the cluster has problems talking to the key at all: 01176 - Key -- Signal too Low.

    This is also puzzling: 01177 - Engine Control Unit -- No Communications

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Could the fault codes be because of an immo defeat/delete? Since i can drive the car normally, and it starts normally?
    It was just to plug the cluster in and it started.

    How can i match the key? Do i need pin?

    Had to swap the old cluster since it was wrong for the car, and had to jump the k and w wire.

    If there is some good how to's to match keys i would appriciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krish View Post
    How can i match the key? Do i need pin?
    Yes.
    Quote Originally Posted by Krish View Post
    ...had to jump the k and w wire.
    Why?

    This is what will be causing 01177 - Engine Control Unit -- No Communications

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenerdiode View Post
    Yes.

    Why?

    This is what will be causing 01177 - Engine Control Unit -- No Communications

    This was on the old cluster, the one that i changed. It was broken and not original for the car so all warning lamps was glowing.

    Now i got another used cluster, so i removed the jumper from k and w wire.

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