New polo vivo tire monitoring system and g85 calibration 2018 model

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hi there. new shape polo i cant calibrate g85 in abs unit. vehicle were involved in a accident. did remove steering crash data. but tire monitoring light flashing and esp light on dashboard remain on. could some kind members please advise on what to try next. many thanks.

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Friday,12,April,2019,09:18:17:62451
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4437.4
Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
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VIN: AAVZZZ6RZJU017572   License Plate: 



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Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (6RU)
Scan: 01 03 04 09 15 17 19 25 44 56

VIN: AAVZZZ6RZJU017572   Mileage: 8050km-5002miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CLPB)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 03C 906 014 GN    HW: 03C 906 014 
   Component: CLPB-MM7GV    H02 4035  
   Revision: --H02---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 00110012020400000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00200
   VCID: 6FBA27CF6782334F777-51CE

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 CB    HW: 6R0 907 379 AS
   Component: ESP9.0i front H04 0003  
   Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 62DD2485212403C7461924708453C088090D
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH 003031
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH_003_VW21.rod
   VCID: 005874734A8C3C379ED-8054

3 Faults Found:
0625 - Display for Tire Pressure Monitoring 
          C1146 02 [137] - Signal Failure
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 69
                    Reset counter: 142
                    Mileage: 7025 km
                    Date: 2014.06.17
                    Time: 00:30:30

0272 - Steering angle sensor 
          B1168 04 [009] - Internal System Fault
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 11
                    Reset counter: 140
                    Mileage: 7025 km
                    Date: 2014.06.17
                    Time: 00:30:20

0994 - Steering angle sensor 
          B1168 04 [008] - Internal System Fault
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 54
                    Reset counter: 40
                    Mileage: 7025 km
                    Date: 2014.06.17
                    Time: 00:30:23


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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085)       Labels:* 6R0-959-654.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 654     HW: 6R0 959 654 
   Component: LENKW.SENSOR  H07 0070  
   Serial number: 20021813470829
   Coding: 01
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
   ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
   VCID: 7EA40A8B30784AC7EC1-802A

1 Fault Found:
1140736 - Steering angle sensor 
          B1168 07 [008] - Mechanical Failure
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 35
                    Reset counter: 182
                    Mileage: 7025 km
                    Date: 2014.06.17
                    Time: 00:30:23

                    Voltage terminal 15: 14.10 V
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.40 V
                    Terminal 15 status: On


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 6RU 937 086 R    HW: 6RU 937 086 R
   Component: BCM IM M+4    H42 0452  
   Revision: BY042001    Serial number: 6700 126180224
   Coding: 3AB02BBF08A12400100000002C2904800040600F60040100220000000A00
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00200
   VCID: 70B824B37AAC2CB76ED-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5Z0 947 105 F
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  003 0008 
   Coding: 000000

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 J    HW: 6R0 959 655 J
   Component: VW10Airbag00M H10 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GW01F34J7
   Coding: 00304D
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
   VCID: 49CEA95739363D7F093-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 6RF 920 861 C    HW: 6RF 920 861 C
   Component: KOMBI         H01 0217  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 1102010000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05729
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_005_VW25.rod
   VCID: 4BC2935F334A2F6F3BF-801E

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6RU 909 901     HW: 6RU 937 086 R
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H42 0452  
   Revision: BY042001    
   Coding: 002300
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00200
   VCID: 196E3917C9968DFF793-804C

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H01 0217  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6A8C36DB5CF0D667209-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 1Sx-909-144-44.clb
   Part No SW: 1S2 909 144 P    HW: 1S2 909 144 P
   Component: EPS_ECU       H61 1702  
   Coding: 0101010100000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisNSK 014008
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisNSK_014.rod
   VCID: 41DEB1770106F53FD13-8014

1 Fault Found:
0215 - Function Restriction due to Faults in Other Modules 
          U1113 00 [008] - -
          [CAN Status-Check / CAN ID -Check LW1-Message]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 33
                    Reset counter: 165
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

                    Voltage terminal 15: 13.629 V
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.360 V
                    Engine speed: 770.00 /min
                    Vehicle speed: 4 km/h
                    Status: Release


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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6RG 035 181     HW: 6RG 035 181 
   Component: Radio         022 0130  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: VWZGZ1U1300323
   Coding: 0000020002000F
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00200
   VCID: 015E71774106353F913-8054

1 Fault Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
            000 -  -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 177
                    Mileage: 7154 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2014.06.26
                    Time: 04:49:20

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits:      010


End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:10, VBatt start/end: 12.8V/12.7V)-----------


after i made attempt to calibrate steering sensor in abs after i locked in security access. fault code changed in abs as follows.

Code:
Friday,12,April,2019,09:25:12:62451
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4437.4
Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com




                Address 03: ABS Brakes       Labels: None
Control Module Part Number: 6R0 907 379 CB    HW: 6R0 907 379 AS
  Component and/or Version: ESP9.0i front H04 0003
           Software Coding: 62DD2485212403C7461924708453C088090D
            Work Shop Code: WSC 31414 790 00200
              ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH 003031 (VW25)
                       ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH_003_VW21.rod
                      VCID: 005874734A8C3C379ED-8054
2 Faults Found:

0625 - Display for Tire Pressure Monitoring 
          C1146 02 [137] - Signal Failure
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 142
                    Mileage: 8052 km
                    Date: 2014.06.27
                    Time: 21:23:34

0993 - Steering angle sensor 
          B1168 54 [137] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 142
                    Mileage: 8052 km
                    Date: 2014.06.27
                    Time: 21:23:34

Friday,12,April,2019,09:41:29:62451
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VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4437.4
Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
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                Address 44: Steering Assist       Labels: 1Sx-909-144-44.clb
Control Module Part Number: 1S2 909 144 P    HW: 1S2 909 144 P
  Component and/or Version: EPS_ECU       H61 1702
           Software Coding: 0101010100000000
            Work Shop Code: WSC 31414 790 00200
              ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisNSK 014008 (VW12)
                       ROD: EV_SteerAssisNSK_014.rod
                      VCID: 41DEB1770106F53FD13-8014
1 Fault Found:

0215 - Function Restriction due to Faults in Other Modules 
          U1113 00 [009] - -
          [CAN Status-Check / CAN ID -Check LW1-Message]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 126
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

                    Voltage terminal 15: 12.076 V
                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.715 V
                    Engine speed: 0.00 /min
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Status: Wait
many thanks.
 
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Moving to Car Repair Support. General VW/Audi Repair is for questions not involving VCDS.

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vehicle was in accident. but not very bad. but airbags did deployed. not sure if g85 is located in power steering unit or outside behind steering wheel. funny in life data steering sensor does work to positive and negative side. i can get it ti zero position. its starts running when i try do adaption then suddenly stops. my question is why does steering 44 not complain about the g85 sensor but abs complain?? any idea why tire monitoring system faulty. many thanks for your reply dear friend. keep well.
 
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The ESP needs the steering angle as one of the variables to work out the stability parameters. In your case it will be located in your power steering unit itself. The 1s2 part number suggests it's from an up! car. Was it replaced?

Please post full updated scan :)
 
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Hi Michel,

I don't have access to repair info for this 2018 6RS Polo Vivo but based on the coding of 04 and 44 it looks like G85 is enabled in the 04-Steering Angle/slip ring itself. If that location is correct (rather than misleading information due to replaced modules with incorrect coding) I wonder if the slip ring with integrated G85 wasn't damaged when the Airbag deployed?

Temp URL with 04 on the left and 44 on the right: https://media.trillian.im/media/?m=...dh/Mug8YaCB4pIMpdJyqGVnmBO9yVSMc8LE1VZKrEZQ==
 
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Hi. I will find out from customer tomm of he replaced the slip ring. I know for s fact it still has the original power steering unit in the car. I removed crash data. Many thanks
 
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hi this is the latest scan after i tried doing basic settings on esp unit and steering angle sensor. customer has not changed the slip ring only removed it and tested for continuity. when doing basic settings it runs but ABORT DUE TO SAFETY REASONS. many thanks.

Code:
Wednesday,17,April,2019,09:45:25:62451
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4437.4
Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
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VIN: AAVZZZ6RZJU017572   License Plate: 



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Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (6RU)
Scan: 01 03 04 09 15 17 19 25 44 56

VIN: AAVZZZ6RZJU017572   Mileage: 8140km-5057miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CLPB)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 03C 906 014 GN    HW: 03C 906 014 
   Component: CLPB-MM7GV    H02 4035  
   Revision: --H02---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 00110012020400000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00200
   VCID: 6FBA27CF6782334F777-51CE

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 CB    HW: 6R0 907 379 AS
   Component: ESP9.0i front H04 0003  
   Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 62DD2485212403C7461924708453C088090D
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH 003031
   ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCH_003_VW21.rod
   VCID: 005874734A8C3C379ED-8054

3 Faults Found:
0943 - ABS/ESP Control Module 
          U10C5 00 [137] - No or Incorrect Basic Setting
          [IISOEMCalibrationError]
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 149
                    Mileage: 8140 km
                    Date: 2014.07.02
                    Time: 21:30:55

0625 - Display for Tire Pressure Monitoring 
          C1146 02 [137] - Signal Failure
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 0
                    Mileage: 8140 km
                    Date: 2014.07.02
                    Time: 21:41:16

0993 - Steering angle sensor 
          B1168 54 [137] - Missing Calibration / Basic Setting
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 149
                    Mileage: 8140 km
                    Date: 2014.07.02
                    Time: 21:41:16


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Address 04: Steering Angle (G085)       Labels:* 6R0-959-654.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 654     HW: 6R0 959 654 
   Component: LENKW.SENSOR  H07 0070  
   Serial number: 20021813470829
   Coding: 01
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
   ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
   VCID: 7EA40A8B30784AC7EC1-802A

1 Fault Found:
1140736 - Steering angle sensor 
          B1168 07 [008] - Mechanical Failure
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 189
                    Mileage: 8140 km
                    Date: 2014.07.02
                    Time: 21:42:31

                    Voltage terminal 15: 14.00 V
                    Voltage terminal 30: 14.25 V
                    Terminal 15 status: On


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 6RU 937 086 R    HW: 6RU 937 086 R
   Component: BCM IM M+4    H42 0452  
   Revision: BY042001    Serial number: 6700 126180224
   Coding: 3AB02BBF08A12400100000002C2904800040600F60040100220000000A00
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00200
   VCID: 70B824B37AAC2CB76ED-8024

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5Z0 947 105 F
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  003 0008 
   Coding: 000000

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 J    HW: 6R0 959 655 J
   Component: VW10Airbag00M H10 0020  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GW01F34J7
   Coding: 00304D
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
   VCID: 49CEA95739363D7F093-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 6RF 920 861 C    HW: 6RF 920 861 C
   Component: KOMBI         H01 0217  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 1102010000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05729
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_005_VW25.rod
   VCID: 4BC2935F334A2F6F3BF-801E

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6RU 909 901     HW: 6RU 937 086 R
   Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H42 0452  
   Revision: BY042001    
   Coding: 002300
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00200
   VCID: 196E3917C9968DFF793-804C

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H01 0217  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6A8C36DB5CF0D667209-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 1Sx-909-144-44.clb
   Part No SW: 1S2 909 144 P    HW: 1S2 909 144 P
   Component: EPS_ECU       H61 1702  
   Coding: 0101010100000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisNSK 014008
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisNSK_014.rod
   VCID: 41DEB1770106F53FD13-8014

1 Fault Found:
0215 - Function Restriction due to Faults in Other Modules 
          U1113 00 [008] - -
          [CAN Status-Check / CAN ID -Check LW1-Message]
          Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 194
                    Mileage: 0 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:00

                    Voltage terminal 15: 13.231 V
                    Voltage terminal 30: 13.818 V
                    Engine speed: 680.00 /min
                    Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                    Status: Release


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Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 6RG 035 181     HW: 6RG 035 181 
   Component: Radio         022 0130  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: VWZGZ1U1300323
   Coding: 0000020002000F
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00200
   VCID: 015E71774106353F913-8054

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:06, VBatt start/end: 12.8V/12.5V)-----------
 
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Okay so it's the steering assist point at the ABS. ABS on its turn is pointing at a defective steering angle sensor. In your case it's the external version according to your VIN.
I'd suggest to replace the steering angle sender or at least verify it's working correctly, plugged in and placed correctly (not turned 1 rotation in the wrong direction or whatever).

Basic setting of the steering angle sensor is done in the ABS. I believe I wrote the procedure somewhere when I fitted my own electromechanical power steering as an upgrade of the hydraulic system of a 6R. It's very similar to your system. I just can't really find where it is... sorry about that.

SA shoul be 40168 IIRC
 
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Okay so it's the steering assist point at the ABS. ABS on its turn is pointing at a defective steering angle sensor. In your case it's the external version according to your VIN.
I'd suggest to replace the steering angle sender or at least verify it's working correctly, plugged in and placed correctly (not turned 1 rotation in the wrong direction or whatever).

Basic setting of the steering angle sensor is done in the ABS. I believe I wrote the procedure somewhere when I fitted my own electromechanical power steering as an upgrade of the hydraulic system of a 6R. It's very similar to your system. I just can't really find where it is... sorry about that.

SA shoul be 40168 IIRC

Thanks. Definitely external sensor combined with slip ring. Any idea why tire monitoring system fail to function properly . Could it also because of steering angle sensor?
Thanks.
 
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Customer is looking for another g85 sensor. Thank you for assistance so far.
 
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Hi all members. Customer fitted new g85 sensor. Fault code under 04 went from faulty sensor to calibration fault. Calibrated sensor under 03. Fault codes gone. ESP calibration fault gone and tire monitoring fault also gone after calibration of sensor. All fine. Many thanks.
 
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