Audi A8 4E weird ABS behavour...

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Hi guys. Need a hand with something, that really bugs me for a while...
Friends bought this vehicle and ever since they bought the damn thing they have this issue with this controller...
Long story short: evidently the control module was wrong in the beginning, but they fixed that, and now the car has the correct module installed. I didn't do this swap-someone else has done it. But the funny thing is-the "new"(second hand, but in perfect condition and fully operational!) module has now absolutely identical fault as the old, wrong one! 00003 module defective. 4 times intermittent and one actual, as you can see in the auto scan.
And this won't go away, no matter what I try! Not even the intermittent ones-it just stays as it is...
Even funnies thing is, when I try to perform output tests, as suggested in the Ross-tech procedures strange message pops out, that really baffles me...
I can't get the screenshot to work here, so I will quote:
WARNING!
Running out tests on the Airbag controller can lead to unexpected results, such as a vehicle that will not start!
wtf???
I am genuinely scared to perform output tests on an airbag controller, and never had, but what in the world has airbag controller to do with ABS controller???
I didn't go further with this and decided to ask is it going to be safe first? I do not want to turn this vehicle into a war zone with series of internal explosions, you know...
HELP...

There goes the auto scan:

Code:
Sunday,14,April,2019,12:34:29:60816
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0
Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUZZZ4EX6N000426   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 4E (4E0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 15 16 17 18 19 1E 25 28 34 36 37 38
          42 46 47 4F 52 53 55 56 61 62 65 67 72 76 77

VIN: WAUZZZ4EX6N000426   Mileage: 211260km-131270miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1E-Media Player 2 -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
28-HVAC, Rear -- Status: OK 0000
34-Level Control -- Status: OK 0000
36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
38-Roof Electronics -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: Malfunction 0010
67-Voice Control -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 077-910-560-BFM.clb
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 560 Q    HW: 4E0 907 560 
   Component: 4.2L V8/5V      G   0030  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUX3Z0E1359563
   Coding: 0011773
   Shop #: WSC 12560 002 1048576
   VCID: 2F6DF1FABEF0DC3274-807A

1 Fault Found:
18061 - Please check DTC Memory of ABS Controller 
            P1653 - 008 -  - Intermittent
Readiness: 0010 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09E-927-156.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 156 S    HW: 09E 927 156 A
   Component: AG6 09E 4,2L5V RdW  0030  
   Revision: --H01---    Serial number:        0055116
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 49945 002 1048576
   VCID: 326BF88EADC2F1DA1B-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 4E0-910-517.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 517 B    HW: 4E0 614 517 BC
   Component: ESP 5.7 allrad  H46 0510  
   Coding: 0008597
   Shop #: WSC 12345 000 00000
   VCID: 224B08CEFD22615AEB-8076

5 Faults Found:
00003 - Control Module 
            014 - Defective - Intermittent
00003 - Control Module 
            014 - Defective - Intermittent
00003 - Control Module 
            014 - Defective - Intermittent
00003 - Control Module 
            014 - Defective - Intermittent
00003 - Control Module 
            014 - Defective

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels: 4E0-910-131.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 131     HW: 4E0 909 131 C
   Component:     FBS AUDID3  H04 0140  
   Revision: 01404004    Serial number: AUX3Z0E1359563
   Coding: 0410624
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 58BF6A26EBFEFB8AC5-800C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: ELV                 XXXX

No fault code found.

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Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 760 C    HW: 4E0 959 760 
   Component: Sitzmemory BFS H08  0060  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 5DS 008 795-03
   Coding: 4063328
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 23450DCAE2386852E0-8076

No fault code found.

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Address 07: Control Head        Labels: 4E0-910-7xx-07.clb
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 732 K    HW: 4E0 035 729 
   Component: Interfacebox    H43 3460  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 343CU057555936
   Coding: 0010003
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 2A5BE0EE8512B91AA3-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 910 609 
   Component: Bedienteil MMI  H41 X460

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 317IV027504678

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: ÿÿ20.09.02ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: ÿÿÿÿÿÿÿ

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 043 B    HW: 4E0 820 043 D
   Component: KLIMAAUTOMAT    016 0400  
   Revision: 00000030    Serial number: 00000000063500
   Coding: 0069851
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 1C373636DF4657AA21-8048

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 4E0-910-279.clb
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 279 L    HW: 4E0 907 279 L
   Component: ILM Fahrer      H12 0210  
   Coding: 0143121
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 3169F782A8C4CAC262-8064

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E1 910 113 B
   Component: Wischer WWS D3  H50 0400  
   Coding: 00000034
   Shop #: WSC 12345  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 910 557   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
   Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH10 0050  
   Coding: 00141886
   Shop #: WSC 12345  

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 4E0-910-655-84.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 655     HW: 4E0 959 655 G
   Component: Airbag 8.4E+    H10 0940  
   Coding: 0431707
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 63C54DCAA2B82852A0-8036

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 4E0-910-549.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 549     HW: 4E0 953 549 
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul H13 0040  
   Coding: 0012141
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 65C153D2AC8C56624E-8030

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: Lenkradmodul    H06 0080

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 4E0-910-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 900 T    HW: 4E0 920 900 T
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H70 0400  
   Revision: D01         Serial number: AUDID3E2000166
   Coding: 0016113
   Shop #: WSC 00011 888 96745
   VCID: 306FF286A3CEC3CA6D-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 105 A    HW: 4E0 265 081 K
   Component: Heizgeraet      H07 0100  
   Revision: 0000000B    Serial number: 00000009006406
   Coding: 0000111
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 1A3B302ED572299A33-804E

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 4E0-910-468.clb
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 468 B    HW: 4E0 907 468 E
   Component: Gateway         H10 0080  
   Revision: 10          Serial number: 19003052170130
   Coding: FCFE7FDF2B7104
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 275D19DA96008472BC-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 1E: Media Player 2        Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 111 F    HW: 4E0 035 111 A
   Component: CD-Changer      H44 0470  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ5ZBE7131380
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 1C373636DF4657AA21-8048

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 4E0-910-131.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 131     HW: 4E0 909 131 C
   Component:     FBS AUDID3  H04 0140  
   Revision: 01404004    Serial number: AUX3Z0E1359563
   Coding: 0410624
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 58BF6A26EBFEFB8AC5-800C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: ELV                 XXXX
   XXXXXXXXXXX ELV                 XXXX   

No fault code found.

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Address 28: HVAC, Rear        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 158     HW: 4E0 919 158 A
   Component: KLIMA-STG. FOND 015 0210  
   Revision: 00000017    Serial number: 00000000025478
   Coding: 0000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 61C947C2B8A43A42B2-8034

No fault code found.

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Address 34: Level Control        Labels: 4E0-910-553.clb
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 553 H    HW: 4E0 907 553 F
   Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC    H06 4480  
   Coding: 0015510
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 285F1AE69B1E8B0AB5-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 760 C    HW: 4E0 959 760 
   Component: Sitzmemory FS  H08  0060  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 5DS 008 795-03
   Coding: 4063338
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 23450DCAE2386852E0-8076

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 4E0-910-88x-37.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 888 P    HW: 4E0 919 887 C
   Component: MNS ECE         H44 1060  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 305CU057575288
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 3B75D5AA7A883092C8-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 38: Roof Electronics        Labels: 4E0-910-135.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 135 A    HW: 4E0 907 135 A
   Component: Dachknoten D3   H02 0090  
   Serial number: 00000504900085
   Coding: 0069030
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 1D313B32C45C5EA2D6-8048

2 Faults Found:
00211 - Control Circuit for Rear Illumination Lights 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 211
                    Mileage: 211264 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.04.14
                    Time: 00:42:00

02162 - Indicator Lamp on Rear Interior Light Switch (K190) 
            006 - Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100110
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 251
                    Mileage: 211264 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.04.14
                    Time: 00:43:00


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 4E1-910-802-42.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E1 910 802 B    HW: 4E1 959 801 B
   Component: Türsteuer.FS BRM003 0060  
   Coding: 0032749
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 204F02C6F32E734AFD-8074

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 4E0-910-289.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 289 A    HW: 4E0 907 289 
   Component: Komfortgeraet   H04 0040  
   Revision: 00400004    Serial number:  W040503110140
   Coding: 0004728
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 275D19DA96008472BC-8072

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 910 853 
   Component: Heckdeckel   P14H06 0070

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 907 719 
   Component: Neigungssensor  H03 0020

3 Faults Found:
01504 - Bulb for License-Plate Light (X) 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101001
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 210
                    Mileage: 292583 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2017.02.08
                    Time: 17:57:27

01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 63
                    Reset counter: 210
                    Mileage: 210752 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.03.23
                    Time: 14:24:08

01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 63
                    Reset counter: 210
                    Mileage: 210752 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.03.23
                    Time: 14:24:08


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Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 4E0-910-223.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 223 K    HW: 4E0 035 223 A
   Component: DSP-Amp.-High   H13 0440  
   Revision: PROD_01     Serial number: 00000000012297
   Coding: 0000016
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 254113D2EC0C96628E-8070

No fault code found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 280 A    HW: 4E0 907 280 A
   Component: ILM Beifahrer   H09 0040  
   Revision:             Serial number: 00000000056905
   Coding: 0010111
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 1E333C3EC95A45BACF-804A

1 Fault Found:
02258 - Door Opener Transmitter 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 211
                    Mileage: 211264 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.04.14
                    Time: 00:37:00


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 4E1-910-802-52.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E1 910 802 B    HW: 4E1 959 802 B
   Component: Türsteuer.BF BRM003 0060  
   Coding: 0032749
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 204F02C6F32E734AFD-8074

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 4E0-910-801.clb
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 801 A    HW: 4E0 907 801 
   Component: EPB  AV1C1010   H01 1010  
   Revision: AV1C1010    
   Coding: 0000531
   Shop #: WSC 00011 888 96745
   VCID: 1D313B32C45C5EA2D6-8048

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4F0-910-357.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 357 C    HW: 4F0 907 357 C
   Component: AFS 1           H01 0020  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000018
   Shop #: WSC 00342 447 45725
   VCID: 264314DE910A9D7A87-8072

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 941 329 A
   Component: AFS-Modul links H05 0010

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 941 329 A
   Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH02 0020

1 Fault Found:
02627 - Dynamic Cornering Light Motor; Left (V318) 
            001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 211
                    Mileage: 211272 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.04.14
                    Time: 00:38:39


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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 4E0-910-541.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 541 Q    HW: 4E0 035 541 E
   Component: TUNER EU/US/RDW H42 0620  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 396C 057505959
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 2E53ECFEB9FAD53A7F-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 61: Battery Regul.        Labels: 4E0-910-181.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 181 C    HW: 4E0 915 181 C
   Component: J0644 BEM       H12 0510  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000003382
   Shop #: WSC 00880 264 10380
   VCID: 204F02C6F32E734AFD-8074

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 915 105 A
   Component: von VA0  8552021721       
   Coding: 344530393135313035412056413038353532303231373231
   Shop #: WSC 00011 888 06946

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 4E0-910-802.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 802 A    HW: 4E0 959 801 C
   Component: Türsteuer.HL BRM003 0060  
   Coding: 0032749
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 1E333C3EC95A45BACF-804A

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 4E0-910-273.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 273     HW: 4E0 907 273 
   Component: Reifendruck 2   H01  
   Revision: 00010028    Serial number: 00000900030922
   Coding: 0212127
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 5FCD413A8ED00CB284-800A

1 Fault Found:
00003 - Control Module 
            000 -  -  - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 211072 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.04.08
                    Time: 20:41:42

             Freeze Frame:
                    Speed: 30.0 km/h
                    Voltage: 25.50 V
                    (no units): 0.0
                        Not Recogn.
                        Not Recogn.
                        Not Recogn.
                        Not Recogn.


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Address 67: Voice Control        Labels: 4E0-910-75x-67.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 754 R    HW: 4E0 035 753 A
   Component: SDS 3500 DE     H45 0630  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000502160269
   Shop #: WSC 12336 024 394758
   VCID: 3561C3925CACE6E23E-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 4E0-910-802.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 802 A    HW: 4E0 959 802 C
   Component: Türsteuer.HR BRM003 0060  
   Coding: 0032749
   Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
   VCID: 1E333C3EC95A45BACF-804A

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 4E0-910-283.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 283 A    HW: 4E0 919 283 B
   Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan H12 0020  
   Revision: --.--.--    Serial number: 08720506401608
   Coding: 0001108
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 214907C2F8247A42F2-8074

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 4E0-910-333.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 333 F    HW: 4E0 862 333 C
   Component: TELEFONMODUL EU     0770  
   Revision: 00000006    Serial number: T2AUDX0505HNS0
   Coding: 0000004
   Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
   VCID: 224B08CEFD22615AEB-8076

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:05)--------------------------
 
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I'm not sure why you think doing output tests in any module is going to fix those ABS codes.

To clear this Fault Code, please perform/repeat the following Steps 3 (THREE) times:
  • Switch the Ignition OFF for 5 Seconds, then Switch it ON again.
  • Clear Fault Codes in Brake Electronics Control Module, then exit out of the Control Module.

I think it's possible that VCDS has been made aware that doing Output Tests in these 4E0 without following a detailed procedure is a bad idea and is using the same warning message that was originally written for Airbag modules. If that's correct, we should probably replace "the Airbag " to just "this" in the string.

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tried this. won't work. the faults didn't clean and reappear-they just stay there... no action ever changes the status quo... as i understand this procedure-it has to go away and then reappear, so if you persist 3 times-it will go away for good. where can i get more info about the correct procedure of the output tests? so i can try to perform this and, hopefully, it will start to behave adequate... and to clear the fault, so i can do that other thing 3 times and the demons be gone already! :)
so the message is correct, but it means, actually abs, not airbags? and nothing will blow off?

p.s. thanks for correcting the scan for me Uwe. :)
 
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tried this. won't work. the faults didn't clean and reappear-they just stay there... no action ever changes the status quo... as i understand this procedure-it has to go away and then reappear, so if you persist 3 times-it will go away for good. where can i get more info about the correct procedure of the output tests? so i can try to perform this and, hopefully, it will start to behave adequate... and to clear the fault, so i can do that other thing 3 times and the demons be gone already! :)
so the message is correct, but it means, actually abs, not airbags? and nothing will blow off?
I do not recommend trying to run Output Tests on the 4E ABS module without detailed instructions. Unfortunately, I have no such instrctions handy. It's possible you will find them in the official repair information for the car, or it's possible they are buried in the factory tool's scripts.

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darn...
if anybody here comes across these instructions-please share...
thanks!
 
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I would guess that electric part of abs module has failed.
Bosch-5-7-ABS-Pump-Testing.jpg


Have the same problem but which I will need to solve some other time.
Code:
Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 4E0-910-517.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 517 A    HW: 4E0 614 517 A
   Component: ESP 5.7 allrad  H29 0420  
   Coding: 0008557
   Shop #: WSC 30504 000 00000
   VCID: 211FE7069DC333DF87D-8074

2 Faults Found:
01826 - Sensor for Steering Angle (G85); Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
            000 - -
00003 - Control Module 
            014 - Defective
 
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I think it's possible that VCDS has been made aware that doing Output Tests in these 4E0 without following a detailed procedure is a bad idea and is using the same warning message that was originally written for Airbag modules. If that's correct, we should probably replace "the Airbag " to just "this" in the string.

Fixed. We had the 4E ABS warning since 2012. I have a strange recollection that someone high up in the company found out for themselves 4E ABS output tests was a "bad idea" :)
 
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well, apparently upon their completion i should expect the module to stop being "defective", should i?
or there is another catch..?
 
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I've seen stuff like this causes by poor grounds or poor mechanical connection at fuses (fuse taps). I would suggest to test the powers/grounds of the ABS module for voltage drop under load. The "180 Load Pro" would be a good investment for this.
 
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now that you've mentioned it... this car had issue with the onboard voltage. it appeared to be a weak connection in the passenger's foot-well, and was recently fixed. we found that out after the change of the modules. but the problem with this controller ONLY, persists... could it be THAT sensitive and burn out THAT easily? can't believe that... really? this will be, probably the only vehicle, that burns it's abs controller for the slightest voltage changes. no way!
 
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Are you sure supply voltage and ground are in fact good?
Is pump shorted?

Is ignition switch valid and all terminal relays?
 
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yes, all that is good.
 
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Definition of good????

Showing 12 volts on a line is not a confirmation of good. Will they run a small load like a brake light.



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