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    Audi A8 4E weird ABS behavour...

    Hi guys. Need a hand with something, that really bugs me for a while...
    Friends bought this vehicle and ever since they bought the damn thing they have this issue with this controller...
    Long story short: evidently the control module was wrong in the beginning, but they fixed that, and now the car has the correct module installed. I didn't do this swap-someone else has done it. But the funny thing is-the "new"(second hand, but in perfect condition and fully operational!) module has now absolutely identical fault as the old, wrong one! 00003 module defective. 4 times intermittent and one actual, as you can see in the auto scan.
    And this won't go away, no matter what I try! Not even the intermittent ones-it just stays as it is...
    Even funnies thing is, when I try to perform output tests, as suggested in the Ross-tech procedures strange message pops out, that really baffles me...
    I can't get the screenshot to work here, so I will quote:
    WARNING!
    Running out tests on the Airbag controller can lead to unexpected results, such as a vehicle that will not start!
    wtf???
    I am genuinely scared to perform output tests on an airbag controller, and never had, but what in the world has airbag controller to do with ABS controller???
    I didn't go further with this and decided to ask is it going to be safe first? I do not want to turn this vehicle into a war zone with series of internal explosions, you know...
    HELP...

    There goes the auto scan:

    Code:
    Sunday,14,April,2019,12:34:29:60816
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
    VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0
    Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ4EX6N000426   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 4E (4E0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 15 16 17 18 19 1E 25 28 34 36 37 38
              42 46 47 4F 52 53 55 56 61 62 65 67 72 76 77
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ4EX6N000426   Mileage: 211260km-131270miles
    
    00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000
    07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    1E-Media Player 2 -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    28-HVAC, Rear -- Status: OK 0000
    34-Level Control -- Status: OK 0000
    36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
    38-Roof Electronics -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    65-Tire Pressure -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    67-Voice Control -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 077-910-560-BFM.clb
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 560 Q    HW: 4E0 907 560 
       Component: 4.2L V8/5V      G   0030  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUX3Z0E1359563
       Coding: 0011773
       Shop #: WSC 12560 002 1048576
       VCID: 2F6DF1FABEF0DC3274-807A
    
    1 Fault Found:
    18061 - Please check DTC Memory of ABS Controller 
                P1653 - 008 -  - Intermittent
    Readiness: 0010 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09E-927-156.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 156 S    HW: 09E 927 156 A
       Component: AG6 09E 4,2L5V RdW  0030  
       Revision: --H01---    Serial number:        0055116
       Coding: 0000001
       Shop #: WSC 49945 002 1048576
       VCID: 326BF88EADC2F1DA1B-8066
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 4E0-910-517.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 517 B    HW: 4E0 614 517 BC
       Component: ESP 5.7 allrad  H46 0510  
       Coding: 0008597
       Shop #: WSC 12345 000 00000
       VCID: 224B08CEFD22615AEB-8076
    
    5 Faults Found:
    00003 - Control Module 
                014 - Defective - Intermittent
    00003 - Control Module 
                014 - Defective - Intermittent
    00003 - Control Module 
                014 - Defective - Intermittent
    00003 - Control Module 
                014 - Defective - Intermittent
    00003 - Control Module 
                014 - Defective
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels: 4E0-910-131.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 131     HW: 4E0 909 131 C
       Component:     FBS AUDID3  H04 0140  
       Revision: 01404004    Serial number: AUX3Z0E1359563
       Coding: 0410624
       Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
       VCID: 58BF6A26EBFEFB8AC5-800C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
       Component: ELV                 XXXX
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 760 C    HW: 4E0 959 760 
       Component: Sitzmemory BFS H08  0060  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 5DS 008 795-03
       Coding: 4063328
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 23450DCAE2386852E0-8076
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 07: Control Head        Labels: 4E0-910-7xx-07.clb
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 732 K    HW: 4E0 035 729 
       Component: Interfacebox    H43 3460  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 343CU057555936
       Coding: 0010003
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 2A5BE0EE8512B91AA3-807E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 910 609 
       Component: Bedienteil MMI  H41 X460
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 317IV027504678
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: ˙˙20.09.02˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙˙
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: ˙˙˙˙˙˙˙
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 043 B    HW: 4E0 820 043 D
       Component: KLIMAAUTOMAT    016 0400  
       Revision: 00000030    Serial number: 00000000063500
       Coding: 0069851
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 1C373636DF4657AA21-8048
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 4E0-910-279.clb
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 279 L    HW: 4E0 907 279 L
       Component: ILM Fahrer      H12 0210  
       Coding: 0143121
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       VCID: 3169F782A8C4CAC262-8064
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E1 910 113 B
       Component: Wischer WWS D3  H50 0400  
       Coding: 00000034
       Shop #: WSC 12345  
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 910 557   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
       Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH10 0050  
       Coding: 00141886
       Shop #: WSC 12345  
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 4E0-910-655-84.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 655     HW: 4E0 959 655 G
       Component: Airbag 8.4E+    H10 0940  
       Coding: 0431707
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 63C54DCAA2B82852A0-8036
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 4E0-910-549.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 549     HW: 4E0 953 549 
       Component: Lenksäulenmodul H13 0040  
       Coding: 0012141
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 65C153D2AC8C56624E-8030
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
       Component: Lenkradmodul    H06 0080
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 4E0-910-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 900 T    HW: 4E0 920 900 T
       Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H70 0400  
       Revision: D01         Serial number: AUDID3E2000166
       Coding: 0016113
       Shop #: WSC 00011 888 96745
       VCID: 306FF286A3CEC3CA6D-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 105 A    HW: 4E0 265 081 K
       Component: Heizgeraet      H07 0100  
       Revision: 0000000B    Serial number: 00000009006406
       Coding: 0000111
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 1A3B302ED572299A33-804E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 4E0-910-468.clb
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 468 B    HW: 4E0 907 468 E
       Component: Gateway         H10 0080  
       Revision: 10          Serial number: 19003052170130
       Coding: FCFE7FDF2B7104
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 275D19DA96008472BC-8072
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 1E: Media Player 2        Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 111 F    HW: 4E0 035 111 A
       Component: CD-Changer      H44 0470  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ5ZBE7131380
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 1C373636DF4657AA21-8048
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 4E0-910-131.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 131     HW: 4E0 909 131 C
       Component:     FBS AUDID3  H04 0140  
       Revision: 01404004    Serial number: AUX3Z0E1359563
       Coding: 0410624
       Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
       VCID: 58BF6A26EBFEFB8AC5-800C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
       Component: ELV                 XXXX
       XXXXXXXXXXX ELV                 XXXX   
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 28: HVAC, Rear        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 158     HW: 4E0 919 158 A
       Component: KLIMA-STG. FOND 015 0210  
       Revision: 00000017    Serial number: 00000000025478
       Coding: 0000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 61C947C2B8A43A42B2-8034
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 34: Level Control        Labels: 4E0-910-553.clb
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 553 H    HW: 4E0 907 553 F
       Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC    H06 4480  
       Coding: 0015510
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       VCID: 285F1AE69B1E8B0AB5-807C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 760 C    HW: 4E0 959 760 
       Component: Sitzmemory FS  H08  0060  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 5DS 008 795-03
       Coding: 4063338
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 23450DCAE2386852E0-8076
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 4E0-910-88x-37.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 888 P    HW: 4E0 919 887 C
       Component: MNS ECE         H44 1060  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 305CU057575288
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 3B75D5AA7A883092C8-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 38: Roof Electronics        Labels: 4E0-910-135.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 135 A    HW: 4E0 907 135 A
       Component: Dachknoten D3   H02 0090  
       Serial number: 00000504900085
       Coding: 0069030
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 1D313B32C45C5EA2D6-8048
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00211 - Control Circuit for Rear Illumination Lights 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101100
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 211
                        Mileage: 211264 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.04.14
                        Time: 00:42:00
    
    02162 - Indicator Lamp on Rear Interior Light Switch (K190) 
                006 - Short to Plus - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100110
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 251
                        Mileage: 211264 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.04.14
                        Time: 00:43:00
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 4E1-910-802-42.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E1 910 802 B    HW: 4E1 959 801 B
       Component: Türsteuer.FS BRM003 0060  
       Coding: 0032749
       Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
       VCID: 204F02C6F32E734AFD-8074
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 4E0-910-289.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 289 A    HW: 4E0 907 289 
       Component: Komfortgeraet   H04 0040  
       Revision: 00400004    Serial number:  W040503110140
       Coding: 0004728
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 275D19DA96008472BC-8072
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 910 853 
       Component: Heckdeckel   P14H06 0070
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 907 719 
       Component: Neigungssensor  H03 0020
    
    3 Faults Found:
    01504 - Bulb for License-Plate Light (X) 
                009 - Open or Short to Ground
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101001
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 254
                        Reset counter: 210
                        Mileage: 292583 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2017.02.08
                        Time: 17:57:27
    
    01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 63
                        Reset counter: 210
                        Mileage: 210752 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.03.23
                        Time: 14:24:08
    
    01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 63
                        Reset counter: 210
                        Mileage: 210752 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.03.23
                        Time: 14:24:08
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 4E0-910-223.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 223 K    HW: 4E0 035 223 A
       Component: DSP-Amp.-High   H13 0440  
       Revision: PROD_01     Serial number: 00000000012297
       Coding: 0000016
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 254113D2EC0C96628E-8070
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 280 A    HW: 4E0 907 280 A
       Component: ILM Beifahrer   H09 0040  
       Revision:             Serial number: 00000000056905
       Coding: 0010111
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 1E333C3EC95A45BACF-804A
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02258 - Door Opener Transmitter 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 211
                        Mileage: 211264 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.04.14
                        Time: 00:37:00
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 4E1-910-802-52.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E1 910 802 B    HW: 4E1 959 802 B
       Component: Türsteuer.BF BRM003 0060  
       Coding: 0032749
       Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
       VCID: 204F02C6F32E734AFD-8074
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 4E0-910-801.clb
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 801 A    HW: 4E0 907 801 
       Component: EPB  AV1C1010   H01 1010  
       Revision: AV1C1010    
       Coding: 0000531
       Shop #: WSC 00011 888 96745
       VCID: 1D313B32C45C5EA2D6-8048
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4F0-910-357.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 357 C    HW: 4F0 907 357 C
       Component: AFS 1           H01 0020  
       Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000018
       Shop #: WSC 00342 447 45725
       VCID: 264314DE910A9D7A87-8072
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 941 329 A
       Component: AFS-Modul links H05 0010
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 941 329 A
       Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH02 0020
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02627 - Dynamic Cornering Light Motor; Left (V318) 
                001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11100001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 211
                        Mileage: 211272 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.04.14
                        Time: 00:38:39
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 4E0-910-541.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 541 Q    HW: 4E0 035 541 E
       Component: TUNER EU/US/RDW H42 0620  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 396C 057505959
       Coding: 0000001
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 2E53ECFEB9FAD53A7F-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 61: Battery Regul.        Labels: 4E0-910-181.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 181 C    HW: 4E0 915 181 C
       Component: J0644 BEM       H12 0510  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000003382
       Shop #: WSC 00880 264 10380
       VCID: 204F02C6F32E734AFD-8074
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 915 105 A
       Component: von VA0  8552021721       
       Coding: 344530393135313035412056413038353532303231373231
       Shop #: WSC 00011 888 06946
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 4E0-910-802.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 802 A    HW: 4E0 959 801 C
       Component: Türsteuer.HL BRM003 0060  
       Coding: 0032749
       Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
       VCID: 1E333C3EC95A45BACF-804A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 4E0-910-273.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 273     HW: 4E0 907 273 
       Component: Reifendruck 2   H01  
       Revision: 00010028    Serial number: 00000900030922
       Coding: 0212127
       Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
       VCID: 5FCD413A8ED00CB284-800A
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00003 - Control Module 
                000 -  -  - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11100000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 211072 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.04.08
                        Time: 20:41:42
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Speed: 30.0 km/h
                        Voltage: 25.50 V
                        (no units): 0.0
                            Not Recogn.
                            Not Recogn.
                            Not Recogn.
                            Not Recogn.
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 67: Voice Control        Labels: 4E0-910-75x-67.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 754 R    HW: 4E0 035 753 A
       Component: SDS 3500 DE     H45 0630  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000502160269
       Shop #: WSC 12336 024 394758
       VCID: 3561C3925CACE6E23E-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 4E0-910-802.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 802 A    HW: 4E0 959 802 C
       Component: Türsteuer.HR BRM003 0060  
       Coding: 0032749
       Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
       VCID: 1E333C3EC95A45BACF-804A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 4E0-910-283.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 283 A    HW: 4E0 919 283 B
       Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan H12 0020  
       Revision: --.--.--    Serial number: 08720506401608
       Coding: 0001108
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 214907C2F8247A42F2-8074
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 4E0-910-333.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 333 F    HW: 4E0 862 333 C
       Component: TELEFONMODUL EU     0770  
       Revision: 00000006    Serial number: T2AUDX0505HNS0
       Coding: 0000004
       Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200
       VCID: 224B08CEFD22615AEB-8076
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:05)--------------------------
    Last edited by Uwe; 04-14-2019 at 11:11 AM. Reason: CODE tags

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    I'm not sure why you think doing output tests in any module is going to fix those ABS codes.

    To clear this Fault Code, please perform/repeat the following Steps 3 (THREE) times:
    • Switch the Ignition OFF for 5 Seconds, then Switch it ON again.
    • Clear Fault Codes in Brake Electronics Control Module, then exit out of the Control Module.


    I think it's possible that VCDS has been made aware that doing Output Tests in these 4E0 without following a detailed procedure is a bad idea and is using the same warning message that was originally written for Airbag modules. If that's correct, we should probably replace "the Airbag " to just "this" in the string.

    -Uwe-
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    tried this. won't work. the faults didn't clean and reappear-they just stay there... no action ever changes the status quo... as i understand this procedure-it has to go away and then reappear, so if you persist 3 times-it will go away for good. where can i get more info about the correct procedure of the output tests? so i can try to perform this and, hopefully, it will start to behave adequate... and to clear the fault, so i can do that other thing 3 times and the demons be gone already!
    so the message is correct, but it means, actually abs, not airbags? and nothing will blow off?

    p.s. thanks for correcting the scan for me Uwe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vaskoto1 View Post
    tried this. won't work. the faults didn't clean and reappear-they just stay there... no action ever changes the status quo... as i understand this procedure-it has to go away and then reappear, so if you persist 3 times-it will go away for good. where can i get more info about the correct procedure of the output tests? so i can try to perform this and, hopefully, it will start to behave adequate... and to clear the fault, so i can do that other thing 3 times and the demons be gone already!
    so the message is correct, but it means, actually abs, not airbags? and nothing will blow off?
    I do not recommend trying to run Output Tests on the 4E ABS module without detailed instructions. Unfortunately, I have no such instrctions handy. It's possible you will find them in the official repair information for the car, or it's possible they are buried in the factory tool's scripts.

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    darn...
    if anybody here comes across these instructions-please share...
    thanks!
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    I would guess that electric part of abs module has failed.


    Have the same problem but which I will need to solve some other time.
    Code:
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 4E0-910-517.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 517 A    HW: 4E0 614 517 A
       Component: ESP 5.7 allrad  H29 0420  
       Coding: 0008557
       Shop #: WSC 30504 000 00000
       VCID: 211FE7069DC333DF87D-8074
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01826 - Sensor for Steering Angle (G85); Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
                000 - -
    00003 - Control Module 
                014 - Defective

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    I think it's possible that VCDS has been made aware that doing Output Tests in these 4E0 without following a detailed procedure is a bad idea and is using the same warning message that was originally written for Airbag modules. If that's correct, we should probably replace "the Airbag " to just "this" in the string.
    Fixed. We had the 4E ABS warning since 2012. I have a strange recollection that someone high up in the company found out for themselves 4E ABS output tests was a "bad idea"
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    well, apparently upon their completion i should expect the module to stop being "defective", should i?
    or there is another catch..?

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    I've seen stuff like this causes by poor grounds or poor mechanical connection at fuses (fuse taps). I would suggest to test the powers/grounds of the ABS module for voltage drop under load. The "180 Load Pro" would be a good investment for this.
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    now that you've mentioned it... this car had issue with the onboard voltage. it appeared to be a weak connection in the passenger's foot-well, and was recently fixed. we found that out after the change of the modules. but the problem with this controller ONLY, persists... could it be THAT sensitive and burn out THAT easily? can't believe that... really? this will be, probably the only vehicle, that burns it's abs controller for the slightest voltage changes. no way!

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