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    Passat B5.5 W8 ABS codes and then some

    2004 Passat B5.5 W8 M/T
    Greetings, picked up a oddball wtf 8 cylinder 1 of 11 Silverstone Gray sedan Passat and having troublesome on a few codes.

    First scan when I got home, and what I've done and think I might know, or not.

    03: ABS Brakes-First start the car, sometimes but not always, the ABS and Traction Control lights are on. And sometimes they don't, until after a few minute, or begin driving. I've checked connections from left front all the way to inside wheel well. ABS wheel inside rotor has light surface rust. Cleaned and inspected sensor. (doesn't mean it's good though) Checked measuring blocks and all 4 wheels are reading same mph even with lights on. Engine light comes on 10-30 min of driving which I assume is related to front left ABS fault. Vehicle speed sensor has been replaced, but throws code as shown. Also, speedo is 5 mph fast by 3 different GPS devices. OEM rims and correct tire size in place.

    08: Auto HVAC-Flaps work fine to any position I put them to. Clueless to the faults.

    17: Instruments, 19: CAN Gateway, 75: Telematics No label?-Throwing different faults because it's an aftermarket Kenwood DDX372BT. Not much to do about that, correct? Would rather have original Monsoon.

    36: Seat Mem. Drvr - Seat(s) work fine in all positions.

    55: Headlight Range - Most likely a frayed, bare wire touching inside the housing due to hotter than hell xenon and insulation age. Common VAG problem that I've yet to pull front clip and headlights to inspect and most likely heat shrink and polish lens to new.

    Any advice or direction is greatly appreciated on these issues. It's a great car that got bad reviews because of the W8, but with 3" duals straight back from cats and a 6-spd m/t to boot, it's different and a blast to drive. Reviews anyways are like 1.8's and 2.8's. Everyone has one, even me.

    Also, can't seem to pull up the Gateway list. It's like, not there.


    Code:
    Monday,25,March,2019,20:08:17:45417
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4437.4
    Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    Workshop Code: 444 46561 004666
    
    VIN: WVWKK63B84P146078   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 3B (3B - VW Passat B5 (1997 > 2005))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 35 36 37 46 47 55 56 57 58 75 76 77
             
     
    VIN: WVWKK63B84P146078   Mileage: 309440km-192277miles
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 07D-906-018-BDP.lbl
       Part No: 07D 906 018 AP
       Component:   B5S-4.0L-HS-LEG   5204  
       Coding: 00172
       Shop #: WSC 14627  
       VCID: 74A4DBB6460A46EAC9-513C
       WVWKK63B84P146078     VWZ7Z0C8148920
    
    1 Fault Found:
    16885 - Vehicle Speed Sensor 
                P0501 - 35-00 - Implausible Signal
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 4B0-614-517.lbl
       Part No: 4B0 614 517 AA
       Component: ABS/ESP allrad      2329  
       Coding: 05395
       Shop #: WSC 00028  
       VCID: 608CA7E6E2F2CA4ABD-51CE
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00283 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Left  (G47) 
                30-00 - Open or Short to Plus
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 3Bx-907-044.lbl
       Part No: 3B7 907 044 
       Component: CLIMATRONIC B5W8    0005  
       Coding: 27210
       Shop #: WSC 05311  
       VCID: 6484ABF6F6EAD66A59-5184
    
    4 Faults Found:
    00603 - Footwell/defroster Flap Positioning Motor (V85) 
                37-00 - Faulty
    01271 - Positioning Motor for Temperature Flap (V68) 
                37-00 - Faulty
    01272 - Positioning Motor for Central Flap (V70) 
                37-00 - Faulty
    01274 - Air Flow Flap Positioning Motor (V71) 
                37-00 - Faulty
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
       Part No: 1C0 909 605 C
       Component: 0C AIRBAG VW61 04   0003  
       Coding: 12355
       Shop #: WSC 00028  
       VCID: 2404EBF6B66A966A99-513C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1J0-907-487-A.lbl
       Part No: 1J0 907 487 A
       Component: Lenkradelektronik   0005  
       Coding: 00118
       Shop #: WSC 00028  
       VCID: 2F2E14DAEFAC253274-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 3B0-920-xx5-17.lbl
       Part No: 3B7 920 949 A
       Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V03  
       Coding: 31236
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
       VCID: 2E1009DEE8A62C3A7F-513C
       WVWKK63B84P146078     VWZ7Z0C8148920
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01304 - Radio 
                49-00 - No Communications
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
       Part No: 6N0 909 901 
       Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001  
       Coding: 00006
       Shop #: WSC 00028  
       VCID: 70ACD7A632127ACA2D-513C
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01304 - Radio 
                49-00 - No Communications
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: 3B1-959-760.lbl
       Part No: 3B1 959 760 E
       Component: °301  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 008 00000
       VCID: 2F2E14DABFAC253274-513C
    
    9 Faults Found:
    01008 - Note; Emergency OFF Switch is Active! 
                000 -  - 
    00994 - Sensor for Front Height Adjustment On Drivers Seat (G215) 
                011 - Open Circuit
    00995 - Sensor for Rear Height Adjustment On Drivers Seat (G216) 
                011 - Open Circuit
    01009 - Sensor for Driver's Seat Position Fore/Aft (G218) 
                011 - Open Circuit
    01010 - Sensor for Driver's Seat Recline (G219) 
                011 - Open Circuit
    00999 - Motor for Front Height Adjustment of Driver's Seat (V29) 
                000 -  - 
    01000 - Motor for Rear Height Adjustment of Driver's Seat (V30) 
                000 -  - 
    01173 - Motor for Driver Seat Fore/Aft Adjustment (V28) 
                000 -  - 
    00998 - Motor for Driver's Seat Recline (V45) 
                000 -  - 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
       Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
       Component: 09 Komfortgerát HLO 0003  
       Coding: 00258
       Shop #: WSC 00028  
       VCID: 373E2CBA17FCEDF22C-4B00
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C0959801
       Component: 09 Tőrsteuer.FS KLO 0202  
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C0959802A
       Component: 09 Tőrsteuer.BF KLO 0202  
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811
       Component: 09 Tőrsteuer.HL KLO 0202  
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812
       Component: 09 Tőrsteuer.HR KLO 0202  
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4Z7-907-357.lbl
       Part No: 4Z7 907 357 
       Component: dynamische LWR       D09  
       Coding: 00008
       Shop #: WSC 00028  
       VCID: 04448B7616AA766AF9-4B3C
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00774 - Level Control System Sensor; Rear Left (G76) 
                31-00 - Open or Short to Ground
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 58: Aux Fuel Tank        Labels: 3B7-906-268.lbl
       Part No: 3B7 906 268 A
       Component: Kraftst. Zusatztank 0005  
       VCID: 2C1403D6DEBA5E2A51-513C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 75: Telematics        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 3B0 035 617 G    HW: 3B0 035 617 G
       Component: Telematik NAR1      0410  
       Coding: 0041110
       Shop #: WSC 01080 444 00741
       VCID: 2208EDEEFC7E985AEB-5118
    
    3 Faults Found:
    01304 - Radio 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - MIL ON
    01304 - Radio 
                013 - Check DTC Memory - MIL ON
    00470 - Company Comfort Databus in Single Wire 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - MIL ON
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 04:01, VBatt start/end: 14.1V/14.0V)-----------
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    A W8 with 6MT? Awesome!

    There was a guy on Vortex way back when with one. He had the sig, "My car will pass anything, except a gas station".

    I'd start with the ABS wheel speed sensor. That's either a bad sensor, or a break in the wiring.

    HAVC: Have you run Basic Settings? Should be Group 001.

    As for a Gateway Installation List: This is a B5. It's late 1990's tech, diagnostics all via K-Line. Looking for a Gateway Installation list here is like looking for acceleration from an old Prius; it simply doesn't have it.

    -Uwe-

    PS: Are you familiar with this flow chart?
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    W8

    I'll check HVAC tmrw along with swapping L+R sensors to see what I get. Wanting to clean ABS wheel anyhow. I've read that will throw a fault because of rust, but they all rust!
    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    PS: Are you familiar with this flow chart?
    LOL! Yes, so I've read. But with receipts from last two owners as thick as King James version I'm in the clear, for now. Relieved it's not a tip. Horror stories on the torque converter. And, some nice fella had chains/guides/water pump/thermostat done. Was told twice, but only have proof for most recent. And this small bonus, along with OM. That price tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    A W8 with 6MT? Awesome!
    F*CK YEAH!
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    Quote Originally Posted by budvidua View Post
    55: Headlight Range - Most likely a frayed, bare wire touching inside the housing due to hotter than hell xenon and insulation age. Common VAG problem that I've yet to pull front clip and headlights to inspect and most likely heat shrink and polish lens to new.
    Fault says to check level sensor at "rear axle" not the headlight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Val View Post
    Fault says to check level sensor at "rear axle" not the headlight.
    Wait, what? They stuck a level arm sensor on the rear? I only know about the one in front left. Thought it was referring to motor mechanism arms inside housing. Had that problem with my A6 C6 and it was inside housing.

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    Level senders: G76 = rear left, G78 = front left.
    Headlight range control motors: V48 in left headlight, V49 in right headlight.


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    Quote Originally Posted by budvidua View Post
    Wait, what? They stuck a level arm sensor on the rear? I only know about the one in front left. Thought it was referring to motor mechanism arms inside housing. Had that problem with my A6 C6 and it was inside housing.
    To sense the attitude (nose up, level, nose down) of the car needs level sensors at both front and rear - with only 1 sensor all you can sense is ride height.

    Even my 2000MY Audi S3 had level sensors front & rear for Xenon aim adjustment, so it's not a new thing.

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    update

    Update..

    Narrowed the ABS problem down to a bad module. Sent it off to Matt at cheapabs and had it back within 5 days. Reinstalled, recoded per RT Wiki along with steering angle. All good! No error lights except what I'm seeing in scan. ESP works as well. Car runs amazing and strong after the module being fixed. But what I don't understand is why it ran weird when those errors were lit? RPM's were odd when shifting and I couldn't get over 5k rpm's. My buddy who has wrenched for years tells me the ABS has nothing to do with how the engine runs, but I find that hard to believe.

    And yes, rear sensor arm was broke for headlights. Fixed and relearned headlights. One is somewhat brighter than the other so I would suspect a not matched D2, plus the tiny DRL's are out. Pulling clip to pull them for a renew so I'll know more once I do this. They've been like this since I picked up the car in FEB. Lights are the same in DRL or turned on. Are the xenons suppose to be on in DRL and somewhat softer on the W8's?

    Did the basics on HVAC and down to just the two errors. When you first turn key, you can hear them positioning themselves. They seem to work tho, so not sure what the deal is.

    Thanks for the continued support. The knowledge on here is first to none.

    Code:
    Tuesday,21,May,2019,20:23:45:45417
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4437.4
    Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    Workshop Code: 444 46561 004666
    
    VIN: WVWKK63B84P146078   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 309970km-192606mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 3B (3B - VW Passat B5 (1997 > 2005))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 35 36 37 46 47 55 56 57 58 75 76 77
             
     
    VIN: WVWKK63B84P146078   Mileage: 309970km-192606miles
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 07D-906-018-BDP.lbl
       Part No: 07D 906 018 AP
       Component:   B5S-4.0L-HS-LEG   5204  
       Coding: 00172
       Shop #: WSC 14627  
       VCID: 74A4DBB6460A46EAC9-513C
       WVWKK63B84P146078     VWZ7Z0C8148920
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0001
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: None
       VCID: 55E28632ADB03FE2DE-51CE
    
    No Faults Found
      or DTCs not supported by controller
      or a communication error occurred
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 3Bx-907-044.lbl
       Part No: 3B7 907 044 
       Component: CLIMATRONIC B5W8    0005  
       Coding: 27210
       Shop #: WSC 05311  
       VCID: 6484ABF6F6EAD66A59-5184
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00603 - Footwell/defroster Flap Positioning Motor (V85) 
                37-00 - Faulty
    01274 - Air Flow Flap Positioning Motor (V71) 
                37-00 - Faulty
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
       Part No: 1C0 909 605 C
       Component: 0C AIRBAG VW61 04   0003  
       Coding: 12355
       Shop #: WSC 00028  
       VCID: 2404EBF6B66A966A99-513C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1J0-907-487-A.lbl
       Part No: 1J0 907 487 A
       Component: Lenkradelektronik   0005  
       Coding: 00118
       Shop #: WSC 00028  
       VCID: 2F2E14DAEFAC253274-5184
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 3B0-920-xx5-17.lbl
       Part No: 3B7 920 949 A
       Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V03  
       Coding: 31236
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
       VCID: 2E1009DEE8A62C3A7F-513C
       WVWKK63B84P146078     VWZ7Z0C8148920
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01316 - ABS Control Module 
                49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    01304 - Radio 
                49-00 - No Communications
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
       Part No: 6N0 909 901 
       Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001  
       Coding: 00006
       Shop #: WSC 00028  
       VCID: 70ACD7A632127ACA2D-513C
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01316 - ABS Control Module 
                49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    01304 - Radio 
                49-00 - No Communications
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: 3B1-959-760.lbl
       Part No: 3B1 959 760 E
       Component: °301  
       Shop #: WSC 65536 065 00000
       VCID: 2F2E14DABFAC253274-513C
    
    9 Faults Found:
    01008 - Note; Emergency OFF Switch is Active! 
                000 -  - 
    00994 - Sensor for Front Height Adjustment On Drivers Seat (G215) 
                011 - Open Circuit
    00995 - Sensor for Rear Height Adjustment On Drivers Seat (G216) 
                011 - Open Circuit
    01009 - Sensor for Driver's Seat Position Fore/Aft (G218) 
                011 - Open Circuit
    01010 - Sensor for Driver's Seat Recline (G219) 
                011 - Open Circuit
    00999 - Motor for Front Height Adjustment of Driver's Seat (V29) 
                000 -  - 
    01000 - Motor for Rear Height Adjustment of Driver's Seat (V30) 
                000 -  - 
    01173 - Motor for Driver Seat Fore/Aft Adjustment (V28) 
                000 -  - 
    00998 - Motor for Driver's Seat Recline (V45) 
                000 -  - 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4Z7-907-357.lbl
       Part No: 4Z7 907 357 
       Component: dynamische LWR       D09  
       Coding: 00008
       Shop #: WSC 00028  
       VCID: 04448B7616AA766AF9-4B3C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 58: Aux Fuel Tank        Labels: 3B7-906-268.lbl
       Part No: 3B7 906 268 A
       Component: Kraftst. Zusatztank 0005  
       VCID: 2C1403D6DEBA5E2A51-513C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 75: Telematics        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 3B0 035 617 G    HW: 3B0 035 617 G
       Component: Telematik NAR1      0410  
       Coding: 0041110
       Shop #: WSC 01080 444 00741
       VCID: 2208EDEEFC7E985AEB-513C
    
    3 Faults Found:
    01304 - Radio 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - MIL ON
    01304 - Radio 
                013 - Check DTC Memory - MIL ON
    00470 - Company Comfort Databus in Single Wire 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - MIL ON
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 03:50, VBatt start/end: 14.4V/14.7V)-----------

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    The ABS will absolutely run interference with TQ request limitations if module is bad from bad solder joints.
    An easy way to see is just unplug it to isolate on the network when such things are experienced.
    I have seen an ignition switch or poor ground do similar things with ABS too.
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