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    Hey Eric did you go through a gateway or simulated direct and or try a 100 Ohm resistor bridged on the CAN high/low to see if K line wakes up?
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    Well as far as my cruise control is concerned, I am sorted. But it is curious (not to mention annoying, as that is what I really got VCDS for!) I had to use another VCDS unit and computer to achieve the adaptation. As I said above, when I get a chance I will find another computer/windows version to see if I can access the adaptation field with my own VCDS HEXV2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timknights View Post
    Visited an audi independent today who also had a HEXV2 interface and VCDS 18.9.x (didn't get to check the exact subversion).
    Knowing exactly what version he used vs. what version you used would be rather useful, no?

    Quote Originally Posted by timknights View Post
    1. There can be an issue with the version of windows or laptop
    2. My HEXV2 interface is defective.
    3. There is a significant difference in recent subversions or firmware of the interface that could lead to the problem.
    Process of elimination: Your interface on his laptop or vice-versa.

    It's also easy enough to check firmware versions in the interfaces: [Options] -> [Test] will show 'em.

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    Apologies! It would indeed be good to know which version of software proved successful! I will try to get that information, though it may now be after Easter. There was some pressure of time this morning.

    Meantime, I did get out another older laptop with Windows 7 and very little else installed, I then installed 18.9.1 software and checked out my own interface on the car again, trying to access the VIN adaptation function of the steering module 16. Once again I got the same result as before, IE "New Value" greyed out, so its not something as simple as my W10 laptop configuration being a source of incompatibility. (The VIN is now learnt as of this morning, but I assume the function would still normally be available).

    I know the firmware on my HEXV2 is the latest, I had updated it just a couple of weeks ago through the application.
    Details:

    Interface: H11-005081
    CB: 0.4437
    Firmware: 0251

    Is it possible to download an older version of the application than 18.9.1 to test that out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by timknights View Post
    I know the firmware on my HEXV2 is the latest, I had updated it just a couple of weeks ago through the application.
    Details:

    Interface: H11-005081
    CB: 0.4437
    Firmware: 0251
    Yes, that's the latest Release. But not the latest Beta.

    However, it strikes me as doubtful that the shop you visited was using Beta firmware. Can you PM me their name so I can look them up?

    Quote Originally Posted by timknights View Post
    Is it possible to download an older version of the application than 18.9.1 to test that out?
    That's certainly possible, but trying random older versions would be rather tedious. Let's find out what the shop had.

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    Hello,

    I'm having the same issue with [Read] not loading a Stored Value and not being able to enter a New Value. My autoscan is below. Can I share any other information to help debug?

    Code:
    Sunday,03,May,2020,16:32:36:51067
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
    VCDS Version: 20.4.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
    Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
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    VIN: WAULC68E72A168557   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 8E (8E - NoTouchRadio)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 45 46
     
    VIN: WAULC68E72A168557   Mileage: 246330km-153062miles
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06B-909-518-AMB.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 909 518 F    HW: 8E0 909 018 
       Component: 1.8L R4/5VT     G   0001  
       Coding: 0016701
       Shop #: WSC 63351 000 00000
       VCID: 33331DC8A7291F239E9-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0110 0101
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8E0-614-517.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 614 517 A
       Component: ABS/ESP allrad      1726  
       Coding: 00000
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
       VCID: 2615F49C61FB7A8B097-51F2
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
                66-10 - Not Matched - Intermittent
    01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded 
                35-00 - -
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 820 043 L
       Component:   A4 Klimaautomat   1016  
       Coding: 00000
       Shop #: WSC 63351  
       VCID: 2A0D00AC75E35EEB2DF-5160
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01274 - Air Flow Flap Positioning Motor (V71) 
                41-10 - Blocked or No Voltage - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 8E0-907-279-8E2.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 907 279 E
       Component: int. Lastmodul  USA 0305  
       Coding: 00003
       Shop #: WSC 63351  
       VCID: 34311ED4A727181B873-4B00
    
    5 Faults Found:
    01494 - Bulb for Parking Lamps; Left (M1) 
                57-00 - Electric Circuit Failure
    00984 - Left Tail Light (M4) 
                57-00 - Electric Circuit Failure
    01502 - Bulb for Rear Fog; Left (L46) 
                57-00 - Electric Circuit Failure
    01493 - Bulb for Blinkers; Front Left (M5) 
                57-00 - Electric Circuit Failure
    01326 - Control Module for Multi-Function Steering Wheel (J453) 
                49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8E0-959-655-84.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 959 655 A
       Component: Airbag 8.4E         4000  
       Coding: 0010607
       Shop #: WSC 63351 000 00000
       VCID: 353723D0A95D0113B0D-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 953 549 L
       Component: Lenksáulenmodul     0308  
       Coding: 01141
       Shop #: WSC 63351  
       VCID: 3C2136F48F77D05B4F3-4B00
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01794 - Control Module - Incorrect Chassis (VIN) Number 
                35-00 - -
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8E2.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 920 950 H
       Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. RB4 D26  
       Coding: 03200
       Shop #: WSC 00006  
       VCID: 2E050CBC490B32CBF17-5184
       WAULC68E72A168557     AUZ6Z0A0316266
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 45: Inter. Monitor        Labels: 8E0-951-177.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 951 177 
       Component: Innenraumueberw.   0504  
       Coding: 00001
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
       VCID: 6B83C5A8BA9987E3969-5118
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 8E0-959-433-MAX.clb
       Part No: 8E0 959 433 T
       Component: Komfortgerát T5B    0617  
       Coding: 11788
       Shop #: WSC 63351  
       VCID: 42DD480CED93A6AB05F-4B00
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E1959801
       Component: Tőrsteuer.FS BRM 0002  
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E1959802E
       Component: Tőrsteuer.BF BRM 0002  
    
       Component: Tőrsteuer.HL BRM 0002  
    
    7 Faults Found:
    01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
                29-00 - Short to Ground
    01702 - Footwell Lighting; Left (W9) 
                29-00 - Short to Ground
    01703 - Footwell Lighting; Right (W10) 
                29-00 - Short to Ground
    01697 - Footwell Lighting; Rear Right (W46) 
                29-00 - Short to Ground
    01696 - Footwell Lighting; Rear Left (W45) 
                29-00 - Short to Ground
    01561 - Rear left door 
                59-10 - Can't Unlock - Intermittent
    01562 - Rear right door 
                59-10 - Can't Unlock - Intermittent
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:21, VBatt start/end: 12.6V/12.6V)-----------

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnm View Post
    I'm having the same issue with [Read] not loading a Stored Value and not being able to enter a New Value. My autoscan is below. Can I share any other information to help debug?
    Let's start with the basics:
    Go to Options, put 1024 in the field labeled 'Debug Level', then click [Apply].
    Without exiting VCDS, try to read the channel in your steering wheel module.
    Exit the module (and VCDS) gracefully.
    Go to your Debug sub-folder and look for the file named DEBUG16.DLM.
    Send it to Support@Ross-Tech.com along with a link to this thread.

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    Thanks. I sent the DEBUG16.DLM file, but I wanted to let you know that I was eventually able to do the VIN adaptation. I opened Measuring Blocks for the steering wheel and noticed that it was alternating between showing the readings successfully and displaying "Data for Group 001 Not Available" (screenshots below). Thinking that there was some intermittent problem, maybe with communications getting stuck, I went back to Adaptation and just clicked Read repeatedly until it worked. I think it took something like 6-8 tries before a Stored value appeared. After entering 00111 as the New value, I needed to click Test several times before it was accepted and the Save button enabled. I'm happy to assist with debugging if you'd like, but I'm no longer stuck


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    I looked at the debug and saw that it takes the module too long to come back for VCDS to handle it properly, which matches your description. I'm guessing at some point you get lucky and the module isn't too busy to reply within 2 seconds (which is an eternity in car diagnostics). We've been aware of this issue, but it's not something Shaun and I can tackle without having it on-site. My various attempts at wiring 8E modules on the bench, and our various attempts at getting an 8E that exhibits this problem locally have been unsuccessful so far. Let us know if you ever make it up to the Philly area
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    Although this is a work-around at best I wanted to post this link in the event that another B6/B7 guy has Adp problems before we get a handle on the cause:

    https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthr...l=1#post201495

    Increasing Blk Int slows things down so that happened to get him over the hump in channel 081 of address 09. I suspect it would have the same results in AW 16.

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