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    Don't solder use the crimp type connectors.
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    As aforementioned & specifically W-Crimp
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    ok i got a question for any one with a few minutes. I got everything needed to do this Throttle valve plug repair. On the TSB it lists two housings which i bought. The Housing (4H0973713) which is the updated part number for the TV plug housing only lists two wires (979025FA) and (79150EA) cutting these in half gives me 4. What about the other two? The other housing number (1J0973713) is whats listed for the Yaw rate sensor housing. the wires listed for that have different ends crimped on them. Anyways i just dont want to make some stupid mistake here. Do i just need to go get another 0.5qmm wire (979025FA) to make up the other two or was i only supposed to cut 4 of the 6 wires? Also step #2 says to check ELSA and ETKA to determine which set is needed. I dont think i have these resources and Maybe i bought to many parts im not sure.

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    Well all i can say is i hope im making some sort of progress here. I completed the TV plug replacement. I didn't get any response on my previous post so i refrained from looking for the yaw sensor and replacing that. So im guessing that could still be a problem. The good news, many of the codes i got last auto scan are gone and im back to two. I've found a lot of good info around this site. One being a page to help diagnose problems based on the freeze frame. Still doesn't make sense to me but im learning. I had to google TV adaptation and believe i performed that properly before test driving. I got about 13 miles in or so this time before EPC and trac control light came on. I had my computer in the car so i did the following auto scan before i left the vehicle.




    Code:
    Saturday,30,March,2019,15:56:08:64135
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4437.4
    Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WAUDF78E58A167997   License Plate: BAO9794
    Mileage: 277320km-172318mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 8E (8E - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B6/B7 (2001 > 2008))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 25 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65
              67 69 75 76 77
     
    VIN: WAUDF78E58A167997   Mileage: 277320km-172318miles
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels:. 06F-907-115-AXX.clb
       Part No SW: 8E1 910 115 G    HW: 8E0 907 115 D
       Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0010  
       Revision: 5EH15---    Serial number: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
       Coding: 0104010A180F0120
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 2615F7A734E8A547C41-8072
    
    1 Fault Found:
    008504 - Accelerator Position Sensors (G79) / (G185) 
                   P2138 - 008 - Implausible Correlation
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 277328 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 1791 /min
                        Load: 12.5 %
                        Speed: 51.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 93.0°C
                        Temperature: 36.0°C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 13.843 V
    
    Readiness: 0000 0101
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8E0-910-517.clb
       Part No SW: 8E0 910 517 J    HW: 8E0 614 517 BH
       Component: ESP8 quattro    H06 0140  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0004526
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 2E050F871C18ED073C1-807A
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module 
                013 - Check DTC Memory
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101101
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 40
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Hex Value: 0x3400
                        Hex Value: 0x4006
                        Hex Value: 0x0029
                        Hex Value: 0x01AA
                        Hex Value: 0x0001
    
    
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    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 820 043 BM
       Component:   A4 Klimaautomat   3233  
       Coding: 00000
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
       VCID: 6D87C88BD48E561F45B-50F4
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 8E0-907-279-8EC.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 907 279 N
       Component: int. Lastmodul  USA 0907  
       Coding: 00003
       Shop #: WSC 06335  
       VCID: 3D2738CBC46E069FB5B-4AA4
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 0F: Digital Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-593-SIR.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 N    HW: 8E0 035 593 N
       Component: SDAR SIRIUS         0150  
       Serial number: AUZ4Z7H0294128
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 34311DEFF214C7D74A5-5160
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
                000 -  - 
    
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    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8E0-959-655-94.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 959 655 M    HW: 8E0 959 655 M
       Component:    Airbag 9.41  H01 4240  
       Revision: 91H01424    Serial number: 003CS000JW5D  
       Coding: 0032607
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 41DF443BBD86627FD13-8014
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E0 910 339 D
       Component: BF-Gewichtsens. H03 0080
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 02LUE         
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0001.01.0000H0300000000000˙†63
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 000000˙†6332DRB40734CB20M˙†63
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 4CB20M˙†6342DRB40722482FO˙†63
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 2482FO˙†6352ARB403AE57CF5˙†63
    
       Subsystem 7 - Serial number: E57CF5˙†6362ARB403A8DDEFG˙†63
    
       Subsystem 8 - Serial number: 8DDEFG˙†63729RB403BE8531S˙†63
    
       Subsystem 9 - Serial number: E8531S˙†63829RB403BE8560V˙
    
       Subsystem 10 - Serial number: E8560V˙
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 953 549 Q
       Component: Lenksáulenmodul     0801  
       Coding: 04041
       Shop #: WSC 06335  
       VCID: 41DF443BB896627FD13-4AA4
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 920 951 N    HW: 8E0 920 951 N
       Component: KOMBI+WFS 4     H14 0200  
       Revision: 0200        Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0023268
       Shop #: WSC 00999 444 64523
       VCID: 353720EBF95EDEDF7DB-5118
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 920 951 N    HW: 8E0 920 951 N
       Component: KOMBI+WFS 4     H14 0200  
       Revision: 0200        Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0023268
       Shop #: WSC 00999 444 64523
       VCID: 353720EBF95EDEDF7DB-5118
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 8E0-959-433-MAX.clb
       Part No: 8E0 959 433 CP
       Component: Komfortgerát T7B    4336  
       Coding: 11820
       Shop #: WSC 06335  
       VCID: 015F843BF816A27F913-4AA4
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E1959801G
       Component: Tőrsteuer.FS BRM 0706  
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E1959802G
       Component: Tőrsteuer.BF BRM 0706  
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8E0959801E
       Component: Tőrsteuer.HL BRM 0606  
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8E0959802E
       Component: Tőrsteuer.HR BRM 0606  
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8J0-035-1xx-56.clb
       Part No SW: 8E0 035 195 AF    HW: 8E0 035 195 AF
       Component: R Symphony2+    H04 0270  
       Revision: 00H04000    Serial number: AUZ1Z4H7759674
       Coding: 0650012
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 6B83C693EFAA582F5BF-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
       Part No SW: 8P0 862 335 R    HW: 8P0 862 335 R
       Component: FSE_255x BT     H26 0350  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000005072588
       Coding: 0001677
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 45D7502BA9BE4E5FEDB-50D0
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 05:14, VBatt start/end: 12.6V/12.5V)-----------

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    Clean TV and if to no avail and TV is replaced & with harness in proper order double checked ........only then change ECU!
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    OK guys so is there a set number of miles that i can consider problem solved after doing a repair and after clearing the CEL if it doesn't come back on? After performing the TSB for the throttle body plug and wires I cleared the codes and i got some faults as mentioned in my last post. I was tinkering again and re-did two of the wire connections and as Jack instructed in the last comment I cleaned the TV, reinstalled, cleared all my faults, performed a TV alignment. I have only been able to drive about 70 miles but have yet to get any CEL's (knock on wood). the last two times it came back on after 10 or less miles. Just wondering if there is a good number of miles that i can confirm problem solved. I just filled the tank and planned to do another auto scan at 100 miles to check things out. Car feels good so far.thanks again for the help...

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    That would depend on the wiring connections you made and if they hold up.
    100 miles should be good.

    Good Luck

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    Hello again... 88 miles. Thats what I got and today it happened again. Reduced power mode and CEL. I just completed an auto scan. I have a throttle body here im going to get put in as instructed and see if thats the culprit. Really hoping so. I am posting this auto scan from today just in case someone can see anything that sticks out to them. Otherwise this weekend ill pop the TV in and see what happens. Thanks in advance...
    Code:
    Tuesday,23,April,2019,19:01:29:64135
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4437.4
    Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WAUDF78E58A167997   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 277460km-172405mi   Repair Order: sam
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 8E (8E - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B6/B7 (2001 > 2008))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 25 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65
              67 69 75 76 77
     
    VIN: WAUDF78E58A167997   Mileage: 277460km-172405miles
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels:. 06F-907-115-AXX.clb
       Part No SW: 8E1 910 115 G    HW: 8E0 907 115 D
       Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0010  
       Revision: 5EH15---    Serial number: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
       Coding: 0104010A180F0120
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 2615F7A734E8A547C41-8072
    
    1 Fault Found:
    008483 - Accelerator Position Sensor (G79) 
                   P2123 - 001 - Signal too High - Intermittent - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 10100001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 277456 km
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 2578 /min
                        Load: 22.7 %
                        Speed: 74.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 98.0°C
                        Temperature: 21.0°C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 13.970 V
    
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8E0-910-517.clb
       Part No SW: 8E0 910 517 J    HW: 8E0 614 517 BH
       Component: ESP8 quattro    H06 0140  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0004526
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 2E050F871C18ED073C1-807A
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01314 - Engine Control Module 
                013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101101
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 4
                        Reset counter: 38
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Hex Value: 0x4B00
                        Hex Value: 0x4006
                        Hex Value: 0x0029
                        Hex Value: 0x01AC
                        Hex Value: 0x0001
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 820 043 BM
       Component:   A4 Klimaautomat   3233  
       Coding: 00000
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
       VCID: 6D87C88BD48E561F45B-50F4
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 8E0-907-279-8EC.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 907 279 N
       Component: int. Lastmodul  USA 0907  
       Coding: 00003
       Shop #: WSC 06335  
       VCID: 3D2738CBC46E069FB5B-4AA4
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 0F: Digital Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-593-SIR.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 035 593 N    HW: 8E0 035 593 N
       Component: SDAR SIRIUS         0150  
       Serial number: AUZ4Z7H0294128
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 34311DEFF214C7D74A5-5160
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
                000 -  - 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8E0-959-655-94.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 959 655 M    HW: 8E0 959 655 M
       Component:    Airbag 9.41  H01 4240  
       Revision: 91H01424    Serial number: 003CS000JW5D  
       Coding: 0032607
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 41DF443BBD86627FD13-8014
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E0 910 339 D
       Component: BF-Gewichtsens. H03 0080
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 02LUE         
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0001.01.0000H0300000000000˙†63
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 000000˙†6332DRB40734CB20M˙†63
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 4CB20M˙†6342DRB40722482FO˙†63
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 2482FO˙†6352ARB403AE57CF5˙†63
    
       Subsystem 7 - Serial number: E57CF5˙†6362ARB403A8DDEFG˙†63
    
       Subsystem 8 - Serial number: 8DDEFG˙†63729RB403BE8531S˙†63
    
       Subsystem 9 - Serial number: E8531S˙†63829RB403BE8560V˙
    
       Subsystem 10 - Serial number: E8560V˙
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 953 549 Q
       Component: Lenksáulenmodul     0801  
       Coding: 04041
       Shop #: WSC 06335  
       VCID: 41DF443BB896627FD13-4AA4
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 920 951 N    HW: 8E0 920 951 N
       Component: KOMBI+WFS 4     H14 0200  
       Revision: 0200        Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0023268
       Shop #: WSC 00999 444 64523
       VCID: 353720EBF95EDEDF7DB-50F4
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8EC.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 920 951 N    HW: 8E0 920 951 N
       Component: KOMBI+WFS 4     H14 0200  
       Revision: 0200        Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0023268
       Shop #: WSC 00999 444 64523
       VCID: 353720EBF95EDEDF7DB-50F4
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 8E0-959-433-MAX.clb
       Part No: 8E0 959 433 CP
       Component: Komfortgerát T7B    4336  
       Coding: 11820
       Shop #: WSC 06335  
       VCID: 015F843BF816A27F913-4AA4
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E1959801G
       Component: Tőrsteuer.FS BRM 0706  
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E1959802G
       Component: Tőrsteuer.BF BRM 0706  
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8E0959801E
       Component: Tőrsteuer.HL BRM 0606  
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8E0959802E
       Component: Tőrsteuer.HR BRM 0606  
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8J0-035-1xx-56.clb
       Part No SW: 8E0 035 195 AF    HW: 8E0 035 195 AF
       Component: R Symphony2+    H04 0270  
       Revision: 00H04000    Serial number: AUZ1Z4H7759674
       Coding: 0650012
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 6B83C693EFAA582F5BF-5160
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00856 - Radio Antenna 
                011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101011
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 80
                        Time Indication: 15
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 8E0-907-273.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 907 273 A    HW: 8E0 907 273 A
       Component: Reifendruck 3   H04 0130  
       Coding: 0062121
       Shop #: WSC 06435 000 00000
       VCID: 2A0D039720D08127E09-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
       Part No SW: 8P0 862 335 R    HW: 8P0 862 335 R
       Component: FSE_255x BT     H26 0350  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000005072588
       Coding: 0001677
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 45D7502BA9BE4E5FEDB-50D0
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 05:25, VBatt start/end: 12.1V/12.1V)-----------

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    I think I would be scoping the accelerator pedal sensor for drop outs first. It might be worth putting a bit of sideways pressure on it while checking, sometimes a driving position can make for intermittent faults. Jack may be along in a while talking about O2 sensors and fused overlays.
    Regards HMC

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    Additionally!
    Make sure engine not overfilled with oil causing oil to pool on TV flap and that PCV working correctly.

    What was condition of it last time when observed for cleaning?
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