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    Lightbulb VW Phaeton 2006 Electrical Problem

    Hallo members,

    I need your help.

    I have VW Phaeton 2006 , when I bought it consumer battery was drain so I bought a new one, but battery is still extremly draining. I cant find in VCDS battery replacement procedure option, so probably is not needed. On car I can not connect with vcds to the radio, navigation and telephone. On display radio is working but sound I cant hear....When I want to set volume its show that DSP access to sound system temporarily not possible...When I connect to the Central electric 09 , and I want to see MVB, VCDS has been freeze or write me error that they are soo much errors, and I cant see any MVB..

    Thank You so much for your help! And sorry for my english.

    Code:
    Saturday,16,March,2019,15:17:46:51262
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
    VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0
    Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ3DZ78002153   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 191790km-119172mi   Repair Order: NN
    
    
    Chassis Type: 3D (3D - VW Phaeton (2002 > 2006))
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 11 13 15 16 17 18 19 23 27 28 29 2E
              34 36 37 38 39 46 47 55 56 57 65 66 68 69 71 75 76 77
     
    VIN: WVWZZZ3DZ78002153   Mileage: 191790km-119172miles
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 059-907-401-ASB.clb
       Part No SW: 3D0 907 401 A    HW: 8E0 907 401 AB
       Component: 3.0L V6TDI  G000AG  0010  
       Revision: --H01---    Serial number: VWZ3Z0F1540273
       Coding: 0011773
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 1D35E9AFC779F0A2D6-5102
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 1 1 1 
    
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    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
       Part No SW: 09L 927 760 J    HW: GS1 911 4*
       Component: AG6 09L 3.0lTDI RdW 2205  
       Revision: 00000001    Serial number:        4223331
       Coding: 0000001
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 3E770E236ABF8BBAEF-5102
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 3D0-614-517.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 614 517 AK
       Component: ESP 5.7 allrad  H33 0047  
       Coding: 0008356
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 6BD1F777494DCE1218-5102
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01826 - Sensor for Steering Angle (G85); Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
                000 -  - 
    
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    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels: 3D0-909-13x-05.lbl
       Part No SW: 3D0 909 139 B    HW: 5WK 485 04
       Component:    Kessy            6840  
       Revision: 68406418    Serial number: VWZ3Z0F1540273
       Coding: 0004328
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 285BC87B983B250AB5-5102
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
       Component: ELV                 XXXX
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 3D0-907-040.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 907 040 J
       Component: Climatronic D1      2031  
       Coding: 0000001
       Shop #: WSC 32261 002 1048576
       VCID: 2545C14FEF2938628E-5102
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01341 - Control Module in Instrument Panel On Comfort CAN (J285) 
                008 - Implausible Signal
    
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    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3D0-937-049-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 3D0 937 049 L    HW: 3D0 937 049 L
       Component: J519                6200  
       Revision: -4003---    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 6102000028211D000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00709 219 88493
       VCID: 33612F1751FD56D210-5102
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 3D0-909-601.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 909 601 E
       Component: 0H Airbag 8.4E+ H10 0935  
       Coding: 0012360
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 2545C14FEF2938628E-50E6
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 3D0-953-549.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 953 549 D
       Component: Lenksäulenmodul     3401  
       Coding: 0000031
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 2E573E63BADF7B3A7F-5102
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 3D0-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 920 885 A
       Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT RB8 0610  
       Coding: 0023111
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 285BC87B983B250AB5-5102
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01305 - Databus for Infotainment 
                014 - Defective
    
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    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
       Part No: 6N0 909 901 
       Component: Gateway K<>CAN      0101  
       Coding: 0000006
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 70EBE01B606B2DCA2D-5102
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01305 - Databus for Infotainment 
                014 - Defective
    
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    Address 29: Left Light        Labels: 3D0-909-157.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 909 157 A
       Component: EVG GDL+AutoLWR(l)  0001  
       Coding: 0000001
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 2759CB4795252A72BC-5102
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 34: Level Control        Labels: 3D0-907-553-V2.clb
       Part No: 3D0 907 553 C
       Component: LUFTFDR.-CDC- 3C3V0 1122  
       Coding: 0005521
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 2759CB4795252A72BC-5102
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
                013 - Check DTC Memory
    00477 - Control Module; Display & Input; Comfort CAN; Front (J523) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 38: Roof Electronics        Labels: 3D0-907-135.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 907 135 C
       Component: Dachmodul           0708  
       Coding: 0000024
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 2341DF57E11DC652E0-5102
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 39: Right Light        Labels: 3D0-909-158.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 909 158 A
       Component: EVG GDL+AutoLWR(r)  0001  
       Coding: 0000001
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 285BC87B983B250AB5-5102
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 3D0-959-933.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 959 933 F
       Component: X3 HSG              0102  
       Coding: 0000034
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 33612F1751FD56D210-4AE6
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3D1 959 701 H
       Component: Tuersteuergeraet FS 0201
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 3D1 959 702 H
       Component: Tuersteuergeraet BF 0201
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 3D0 959 703 G
       Component: Tuersteuergeraet HL 0201
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No: 3D0 959 704 G
       Component: Tuersteuergeraet HR 0201
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 68: Wiper Electr.        Labels: 3Dx-955-1xx-V1.clb
       Part No: 3D1 955 119 A
       Component: Front Wiper         2005  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2759CB4795252A72BC-5102
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 71: Battery Charger        Labels: 3D0-915-181.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 915 181 D
       Component: Batteriemanagement  2800  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2443DC4BE413C16A99-5102
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: None
       Part No: 3D0 919 283 D
       Component: 01 Einparkhilfe     0907  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2B51377789CD0E1258-5102
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Last edited by langyyyy; 03-16-2019 at 07:25 PM. Reason: QUOTE -> CODE

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    I have one idea..that CAN gateway is defective. I think that gateway is integratted in dashboard, so need replace dashboard and then adapt keys?

    BTW: when is car locked, on battery is drain between 1-3 Ampers ... Its pretty much

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bekescars.sk View Post
    BTW: when is car locked, on battery is drain between 1-3 Ampers ... Its pretty much
    Why not first try popping fuses one at a time and measuring the current taken by the components fed by that fuse by bridging the contacts using a multimeter, then use a WD to isolate what components are supplied by the fuse with the current drain?

    Better than the hassle of replacing the instruments - and potentially finding the problem still exists

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    So, After remove fuse nr. 17 - Radio , current drain is 0,45A. Then after remove fuse nr. 33- navigation current drain is 0,03A finally. So it is possible to defective CAN gateway right?

    Thanks!

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    or faulty ignition switch.............
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European_Parts View Post
    or faulty ignition switch.............
    Can you explain why? ...I dont think so

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    I would say try and carry out systematic fault finding/ closed circuit drain tests and solve the problem by elimination than substituting parts.
    Lock the car for about 2 hours and use multimeter to check which fuses are actively taking current. Use the WD to check which circuits are related and consumers hooked to such circuits This gives you an idea where the source of drain could be. I think there is a TPI on this issue as well.

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    Can you explain why? ...I dont think so
    Trace how current is sent to the radio and what is required for wake or sleep period.

    It's evident in the WD isn't it or maybe you don't think so, so why even read it and perform the shotgun approach & roll the diagnostic dice on statistics versus verifying it, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack@European_Parts View Post
    Trace how current is sent to the radio and what is required for wake or sleep period.

    It's evident in the WD isn't it or maybe you don't think so, so why even read it and perform the shotgun approach & roll the diagnostic dice on statistics versus verifying it, huh?

    So why it's not turning sleep mode just to radio and Navi? If will be faulty ign switch, all interior components will stay in wake mode I think.
    and it is impossible to connect via vcds to radio and Navi unit..faulty ign switch? Still don't think so.

    And secondly, in autoscan you can see fault about Can databus.

    01305 - Databus for Infotainment
    014 - Defective
    Last edited by langyyyy; 03-17-2019 at 03:36 AM.

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