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    Hi all,

    Very new to VCDS use. I purchased last week and started playing with it on my two TDI's. I have some questions regarding my auto scans on my 98 and 02 Jetta's

    Here is the 02 scan:

    Code:
    Tuesday,18,November,2014,17:36:42:37813
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
    VCDS Version: 14.10.0.0
    Data version: 20141022
    
    
    VIN: 3VWSP69M82M099452   License Plate: 6RHX503
    Mileage: 327240km-203337mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 9M (9M - VW Jetta IV (1998 > 2014))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 29 35 36 37 39 46 47 55 56 57
              75 76
     
    VIN: 3VWSP69M82M099452   Mileage: 327240km-203337miles
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 038-906-012-AGR.lbl
       Part No: 038 906 012 FD
       Component: 1,9l R4 EDC G420SG  4102  
       Coding: 00002
       Shop #: WSC 00066  
       VCID: 57B38575B59ED1997E1-4B18
       3VWSP69M82M099452     VWZ7Z0A4185576
    
    No Faults Found
      or DTCs not supported by controller
      or a communication error occurred
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ABS.lbl
       Part No: 1C0 907 379 J
       Component: ABS FRONT MK60      0103  
       Coding: 0004097
       Shop #: WSC 00028 000 00000
       VCID: 31671BEDABBAEFA9D05-5178
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
       Part No: 6Q0 909 605 F
       Component: 04 AIRBAG VW6  0202 0004  
       Coding: 12340
       Shop #: WSC 00066  
       VCID: 3A753CC126CC2CF161F-513C
    
    No Faults Found
      or DTCs not supported by controller
      or a communication error occurred
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1J0-907-487-A.lbl
       Part No: 1J0 907 487 A
       Component: Lenkradelektronik   0003  
       Coding: 00118
       Shop #: WSC 00028  
       VCID: 2F631D95ED8EF959C61-5248
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1J0-920-xx5-17.lbl
       Part No: 1J0 920 906 L
       Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V62  
       Coding: 07232
       Shop #: WSC 00000  
       VCID: 31671BEDFBBAEFA9D05-513C
       3VWSP69M82M099452     VWZ7Z0A4185576
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
       Part No: 6N0 909 901 
       Component: Gateway K<->CAN    0001  
       Coding: 00006
       Shop #: WSC 00028  
       VCID: 70E1DEE93030A6A19FB-513C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
       Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
       Component: 1H Komfortgerát HLO 0003  
       Coding: 00258
       Shop #: WSC 00028  
       VCID: 377325F515DE31999E1-4B18
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801A
       Component: 1H Tőrsteuer.FS KLO 0002  
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802A
       Component: 1H Tőrsteuer.BF KLO 0002  
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811A
       Component: 1H Tőrsteuer.HL KLO 0002  
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812A
       Component: 1H Tőrsteuer.HR KLO 0002  
    
    No Faults Found
      or DTCs not supported by controller
      or a communication error occurred
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 3B7-035-1xx-56.lbl
       Part No: 3B7 035 180 G
       Component:    Radio ZSW        0020  
       Coding: 00031
       Shop #: WSC 00003  
       VCID: 2449E2B9B4484A012B3-513C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 05:10)--------------------------

    Here is the 98 scan:Wednesday,26,November,2014,12:01:53:37813

    Code:
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
    VCDS Version: 14.10.0.0
    Data version: 20141022
    
    
    VIN: 3VWRF81H8WM128787   License Plate: 6TAU514
    Mileage: 245747   Repair Order: spunky
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 1H - VW Golf/Vento III (1992 > 1999)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 12 15 25 41 56
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 028-906-021-AHU.lbl
       Part No: 028 906 021 JB
       Component: 1,9l R4 EDC  G00SG  1457  
       Coding: 00002
       Shop #: WSC 00066  
       VCID: 58B18649B880DEE177B-4B18
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: N/A
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:07)--------------------------

    My question is: the 98's scan only shows one scan block. In the second line of this scan it shows 9 blocks. Does this mean for this year there are 9 options, of which I only have one. Or did I do something wrong?

    Thanks in advance for any help.

    BTW--my apologies for posting the scan results incorrectly.
    Last edited by Uwe; 01-05-2016 at 04:38 PM. Reason: CODE tags

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    Quote Originally Posted by aslspiderman View Post
    Very new to VCDS use. I purchased last week and started playing with it on my two TDI's.
    ...
    My question is: the 98's scan only shows one scan block. In the second line of this scan it shows 9 blocks. Does this mean for this year there are 9 options, of which I only have one. Or did I do something wrong?
    Welcome! Could go either way. You have some repeated issues in your '02 scan...

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    No Faults Found
      or DTCs not supported by controller
      or a communication error occurred
    
    ... that indicates VCDS may be struggling with communication or timing issues. What sort of interface did you buy, and what kind of PC are you running it on? Some of this stuff is very timing-sensitive and can struggle on very old laptops (or laptops with too much junk running).

    On the other hand...
    Code:
    Chassis Type: 1H - VW Golf/Vento III (1992 > 1999)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 12 15 25 41 56
    Edit: Actually, what's going on is you picked the wrong chassis type. Use the 9M chassis type just like you did for the '02. There's stuff in there it should have found already, but there's a number of things it didn't even try because of that chassis type selection.

    Jason

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    I'm running on a macbook pro, using VMware. the cable is a K11-usb

    So I can use the 9M chassis type on the 98?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aslspiderman View Post
    I'm running on a macbook pro, using VMware. the cable is a K11-usb
    Well, that solves that. Running VCDS under VMware isn't supported, because you run into exactly this sort of problem. The communications protocol with the car is very, very sensitive to timing, and VMware messes with that. If you can dual-boot into Windows, that will generally work.

    Quote Originally Posted by aslspiderman View Post
    So I can use the 9M chassis type on the 98?
    Yes. The 9M chassis covers model-year 1998 onward through 2005 in the US, and further elsewhere as the City Jetta or similar.

    Edit: Checked based on Uwe's comment below, 1998 is a Mk3 and will have less diagnostic-capable stuff. Using the 9M chassis designation won't hurt anything, but it won't get back any additional results either. Not sure why VCDS shows it 1998 and forward, split should be in 1999... perhaps Mk4 was available overseas first?

    Jason
    Last edited by jyoung8607; 11-28-2014 at 11:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aslspiderman View Post
    I'm running on a macbook pro, using VMware. the cable is a K11-usb
    That would explain it.

    Quote Originally Posted by aslspiderman View Post
    So I can use the 9M chassis type on the 98?
    You can, but it would be a pointless waste of time. The only things in a US Mk.3 chassis that "talk" are:
    01-Engine
    02-Auto-Trans (if equipped)
    03-ABS brakes (if equipped)
    15-Airbags
    56-Radio (only ~98.5 and newer, and only if it's stock and turned on)

    Now my guess is that Jetta doesn't have an Auto Trans or ABS. So the only thing that's conspicuously absent on that car is your Airbag module. Looking for other modules that don't exist or simply aren't diagnostic-capable in that car would be an exercise in futility. Installing Boot Camp and booting Windows natively, or borrowing a PC that runs Windows natively might not be.

    -Uwe-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    That would explain it.


    You can, but it would be a pointless waste of time. The only things in a US Mk.3 chassis that "talk" are:
    01-Engine
    02-Auto-Trans (if equipped)
    03-ABS brakes (if equipped)
    15-Airbags
    56-Radio (only ~98.5 and newer, and only if it's stock and turned on)

    Now my guess is that Jetta doesn't have an Auto Trans or ABS. So the only thing that's conspicuously absent on that car is your Airbag module. Looking for other modules that don't exist or simply aren't diagnostic-capable in that car would be an exercise in futility. Installing Boot Camp and booting Windows natively, or borrowing a PC that runs Windows natively might not be.

    -Uwe-
    Yeah--it's a basic car, nothing fancy. I only wanted it for the engine diagnostics anyway. I do have air bags, so curious why it didn't recognize that module.

    Quote Originally Posted by jyoung8607 View Post
    Well, that solves that. Running VCDS under VMware isn't supported, because you run into exactly this sort of problem. The communications protocol with the car is very, very sensitive to timing, and VMware messes with that. If you can dual-boot into Windows, that will generally work.


    Yes. The 9M chassis covers model-year 1998 onward through 2005 in the US, and further elsewhere as the City Jetta or similar.

    Edit: Checked based on Uwe's comment below, 1998 is a Mk3 and will have less diagnostic-capable stuff. Using the 9M chassis designation won't hurt anything, but it won't get back any additional results either. Not sure why VCDS shows it 1998 and forward, split should be in 1999... perhaps Mk4 was available overseas first?

    Jason
    Thanks for the feedback gentlemen. I was just being lazy, already had VMware installed. I'll install XP in bootcamp and run it natively. Will reinstalling VCDS make me run through the registration process again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aslspiderman View Post
    Will reinstalling VCDS make me run through the registration process again?
    Nope. For KII-USB, the physical interface is the license. You can run the VCDS desktop software on whatever PC you like.

    Jason

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    Quote Originally Posted by jyoung8607 View Post
    Nope. For KII-USB, the physical interface is the license. You can run the VCDS desktop software on whatever PC you like.

    Jason
    Cool, thanks again guys

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    Good morning gents'

    Another NUB question if you don't mind. Someone has offered to give me a net-book. Instead of purchasing new windows software, free is always better. Any problems running the software one it? It has the proper requirements and is running XP.

    Thanks for you help.

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    Some of the older netbooks with single-core Atom CPUs are starting to get a bit marginal on CPU power for current versions of VCDS.

    -Uwe-

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