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    Question MVB Map for 8K 08 Auto HVAC 8K1 820 043 T ?

    Where can I find an MVB map/directory of module 08 Auto HVAC for our 2014 A4 (8K) HVAC module 8K1 820 043 T ? Is this information documented anywhere that's available to the general public (i.e., not Audi engineering staff) ?

    Full scan from today:
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    Sunday,19,July,2020,11:53:03:03501
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
    VCDS Version: 20.4.1.0  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4508.4
    Data version: 20200331 DS317.0
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    VIN: WAUHFAFL4EN019xxx   License Plate: xxxx
    Mileage: 146050km-90751mi   Repair Order:
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Chassis Type: FL-AU48 (8R0)
    Scan: 01 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 36 42 44 46 47 52 53 56 5F 62 6C 72
    
    VIN: WAUHFAFL4EN019xxx   Mileage: 146050km-90751miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (MY15-CAED)       Labels:. 06H-907-115-CDN.clb
       Part No SW: 8K5 907 115 M    HW: 8K2 907 115 L
       Component: 2.0l R4/4V TF H09 0005
       Revision: ECH09---
       Coding: 4A190013242600062000
       Shop #: WSC 42227 002 1048576
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS0118K5907115M 001006
       ROD: EV_ECM20TFS0118K5907115M.rod
       VCID: 3C2137DBE6EB7D3B4F3-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 8K0-907-379-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 379 CP    HW: 8K0 907 379 CP
       Component: ESP8 quattro  H09 0020
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 071D1801
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       VCID: 094F9E0FF9399893045-805C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 HM    HW: 8K0 907 064 GM
       Component: BCM2 2.0      H13 0641
       Revision: 00002001
       Coding: 0F814040000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       VCID: 025D8923C40FCBCB45F-8056
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 E    HW: 8K0 905 852 E
       Component: J764 ELV MLB  H40 0046
       Serial number: 0213000326397006
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 8K1 820 043 T    HW: 8K1 820 043 T
       Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H04 0121
       Revision: C1000000    Serial number: 01011020132096
       Coding: 6400208000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       VCID: 392F2ECFE9594813545-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 8K0-907-063.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 DH    HW: 8K0 907 063 DH
       Component: BCM1 1.0      H16 0103
       Revision: 08016001    Serial number: 00000052342102
       Coding: 26000091873CAFE00600488300003D0D4F9C9208A2090221000008004000030100000030000000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       VCID: 78A9EBCB92D3911B6BB-802C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K1 955 119 B    HW: 8K1 955 119 B  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: MITSUBA190913  H18 0461
       Serial number: 1309170702396
       Coding: 004577
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 B    HW: 8U0 955 559 B  Labels: 8U0-955-559.CLB
       Component: G397_RLFS  H06 0002
       Serial number: 21798940
       Coding: 02005D
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AS    HW: 8K0 941 531 AS
       Component: E1 - LDS  H03 0031
       Serial number: 00000000003009131254
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 4G0 907 410 A    HW: 4H0 907 410 A
       Component: USHL4.2  H30 0030
       Serial number: 0000002274555R807103
    
       Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 658     HW: 4H0 907 658
       Component: AQ_Hum_Sensor  H03 0003
       Serial number: 81094EC6000000000001
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 8K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 P    HW: 8K0 959 655 P
       Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H47 0610
       Serial number: 003KJDB0JSG0
       Coding: 303844354730303030304A55304C384B3053
       Shop #: WSC 25711 001 1048576
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 003010
       ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_003_AU48.rod
       VCID: 4ACD6103BC3FD38BCDF-801E
    
       Seat occupied recognition:
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 339 C    HW: 8K0 959 339 C
       Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H02 0040
       Serial number: 5810000R130000G2Z7
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
       Serial number: 6334MSME7E70482BQ
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side:
       Serial number: 6344MSME7F30780ES
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side:
       Serial number: 6352QSME093A1874J
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side:
       Serial number: 6362QSME5637127AJ
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
       Serial number: 63732SME32361858Z
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
       Serial number: 63832SME67374C589
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:. 8K0-953-568.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 953 568 Q    HW: 8K0 953 568 Q
       Component: Lenks.Modul   H03 0003
       Revision: C0062331    Serial number: 90862MJ9000PE
       Coding: 000016
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       VCID: 48C95B0BA2B3219BDBB-801C
    
       Component: E221 - MFL  H03 0004
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:. 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 920 983 F    HW: 8K0 920 983 F
       Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H35 0564
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: ZAA50W4AE
       Coding: 87BD09000301D705020200
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       VCID: 38292BCBD253511BABB-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 8T0-907-468.clb
       Part No SW: 8R0 907 468 N    HW: 8R0 907 468 C
       Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H11 0056
       Revision: 1Y070028    Serial number: 2841Y13921081D
       Coding: 80C303FF00
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       VCID: 4ACD6103BCBFD38BCDF-801E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 915 181     HW: 8T0 915 181
       Component: J367-BDMHella  H03 8041
       Serial number: 2232061403
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels:. 8T0-959-760.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 760 D    HW: 8K0 959 760 D
       Component: MEM-FS        H06 0076
       Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00000075891685
       Coding: 00581B00000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       VCID: 3B2334C7E3657A03469-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 8K0-959-793.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 959 793 P    HW: 8T0 959 793 G
       Component: TSG FA        H09 0305
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 011C13204E00410001
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       VCID: 56F585737807876B597-8002
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 8K0-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 909 144 F    HW: 8K0 909 144 B
       Component: RCEPS         H38 0507
       Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 0029904023
       Coding: 100000010001
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_RCEPSAU48X 008014
       ROD: EV_RCEPSAU48X_008.rod
       VCID: 34311FFBCEBBB57B873-8060
    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-46.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 HM    HW: 8K0 907 064 GM
       Component: BCM2 2.0      H13 0641
       Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0317191062
       Coding: 01060E3A00EA404581B0013200000000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       VCID: 025D8923C40FCBCB45F-8056
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 719 B    HW: 8K0 959 719
       Component: GTO BF  H01 0080
       Serial number: 00000000000000738208
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 591 B    HW: 8K0 959 591
       Component: J245 PS050  H08 0043
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels:. 8T0-035-223-BOM.clb
       Part No SW: 8T1 035 223 A    HW: 8T1 035 223 A
       Component: DSP Prem      H05 0030
       Revision: 00005001    Serial number: 94813020626603
       VCID: 2D070A9F2D11E4B3C8D-8078
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 8K0-959-792.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 959 792 P    HW: 8T0 959 792 G
       Component: TSG BF        H09 0305
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 011C13204E00410001
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       VCID: 55F7827F65018C7350D-8000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake (----)       Labels: 8K0-907-801-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 M    HW: 8K0 907 801 J
       Component: EPB-4         H01 0004
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 10000000275214
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ParkiBrake 001028
       ROD: EV_ParkiBrake_AU48.rod
       VCID: 392F2ECFE9D94813545-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (R)       Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 4G0 035 082 H    HW: 4G0 035 082
       Component: Radio U SIRIU H60 0138
       Revision: AB001007    Serial number: 156JC0D7915778
       Coding: 020007010000000001
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       VCID: 2517F2BF75E1DCF300D-8070
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:. 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
       Part No SW: 8R1 035 746 K    HW: 8R1 035 746 D
       Component: H-BNT-NA      H40 1040
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 204J00D7604957
       Coding: 0F0200000106E3EF45028F4E00000403140000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       VCID: 3FDB40D7F77D66236A1-806A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 GB
       Component: NAR 2019  1901
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8R0 919 604 A    HW: 8R0 919 604 A
       Component: DU7 High  H42 0104
       Serial number: A130I/0D2839196
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 611 L    HW: 8T0 919 611 C
       Component: E0380 Bedient  H02 0030
       Serial number: 00000001635491
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8R0 060 961 F
       Component: CD-Database  5298
    
    1 Fault Found:
    03623 - Invalid Security/Release Code
                000 - -
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 152
                        Mileage: 146052 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2020.07.18
                        Time: 17:44:43
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Hex Value: 0x0004
                        Hex Value: 0x0009
                        Count: 7
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 8K0-959-795.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 959 795 Q    HW: 8T0 959 795 H
       Component: TSG HL        H07 0305
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 010C13204000210001
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       VCID: 59EF8E4F0919A813745-800C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 8T0-907-441.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 907 441 C    HW: 4L0 907 441 B
       Component: J772__Rearview      0040
       Revision: --H08---    Serial number: 525PA8-J3893JT
       Coding: 1000006
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       VCID: 38292BCBDE53511BABB-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 8K0-959-794.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 959 795 Q    HW: 8T0 959 795 H
       Component: TSG HR        H07 0305
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 010C13204000210001
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       VCID: 59EF8E4F0919A813745-800C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:57, VBatt start/end: 12.5V/12.5V)-----------
    Label file redirection fails for only two modules here (08 and 56). Is it possible to write a basic label file for this module to facilitate basic system diagnostics ? Thanks for your time.

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    Label files are not designed by Audi, but by Ross-Tech staff. Redir Fail in general means that label file for Your exact control module HW/SW exists somewhere, but is not available in Your current VCDS version or language. Mainly some label files, marked as Redir Fail, are not included in standard English version, because they are initially written in German and not translated yet.
    Wait for someone from RT to show up and answer about Your exact missing labels more accurately.
    BTW basic diagnostics can be done without label files. Missing label file mainly means not labeled measurements, no coding and adaptation instructions/pop-up balloons.

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    Is there something in particular you're trying to accomplish in terms of "basic system diagnostics" on those modules?

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    I worked through the diagnosis of a pin-hole leak in the condenser coil recently; after having it R&R'ed at a indy shop in the area, I expect to keep an eye on it through the summer months (35C here this weekend). I understand what @MartinsX noted above; I've seen a handful of posts here & on the Audizine forums regarding this particular module & it's lack of an (English language) label file for this platform. I've also gathered some (informal) pointers from @Uwe's response to @MarkP last September regarding MVB data found in Groups 001, 034, 035, & 036 (but haven't found any other comprehensive sources for this information). Cycling through the MVB Groups in the 08 - Auto HVAC module, we see other live data that is identified minimally by VCDS.

    My question, above, has to do with how us regular users of VCDS interpret this information. I suppose we (I) could come here and ask each time we need a pointer to something that hasn't already been identified, or maybe we (I) could be directed to documentation that exists already (and my web searches have yet to uncover). Still, having some information (as presented by 08 - Auto HVAC currently) is better than no information at all.

    Anyway, thanks for your time.

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    After poking around with this some more, I found an Audizine thread from last Sept 2019 that suggested that (encrypted) label file 8Tx-820-043-3Z.clb might be usable for our J255 part number 8K1 820 043 T. I tried the experiment today (copying 8Tx-820-043-3Z.clb to 8K1-820-043-T.clb in the Labels folder) and found that VCDS appears to interpret the label file correctly here (Groups 034, 035, 036 excerpted from my log file):

    Address 08: Auto HVAC (8K1 820 043 T)

    Group 034: Temperatures I
    27.0°C Outlet Temp. Dashb. Left (G385)
    26.0°C Outlet Temp. Dashb. Right (G386)
    25.0°C Outlet Temp. Footw. Left (G261)
    26.0°C Outlet Temp. Footw. Right (G262)

    Group 035: Temperatures II
    26.0°C Outlet Temp. Evaporator (G263)
    26.0°C Temperature
    25.0°C Ambient (G17) Temperature

    Group 036: Temperaturfühler/Gebläse Schalttafel
    27.0°C Dash Panel (G56) Temperature
    2928 /min Blower (V42) Temp. Sensor
    22.0°C Coolant Temperature (CAN)
    OFF Idle Speed Increase

    This is sufficient for my purposes (for now).

    If, in fact, label file 8Tx-820-043-3Z.clb can be used with this platform, is the "Redir Fail" due to some other configuration issue (say, a missing pointer in 8K-08.clb, which is encrypted, so we can't see what the potential redirections are).

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    Your 8K1-820-043-T redirects to 8Kx-820-043-3Z.clb, which is available in German, but not English.

    Comparing the German 8Kx-820-043-3Z and 8Tx-820-043-3Z reveals that they are similar enough that I wonder why they're even two separate files. Sebastian and/or Dana would have to answer that.

    In any case, I don't see any obvious problem with using the 8T file on your 8K module.

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    Thanks for confirming my observations.

    I look forward to seeing if this redirection can be added to 8K-08.clb in future VCDS versions.

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