New Beetle 01314 code

racofuy · Mar 3, 2019

Hi, new to the forum from New zealand
I have a customers 2003 New Beetle cabrio (was 2.0 AZJ with 09G tiptronic) Vehicle is stock other than now engine swap.
Owner purchased a AWU 1.8T 20v from 2003 Beetle coupe (had 01M trans mated to it)
We fitted engine for him to his vehicle using his 09G tiptronic trans and TCU original to the car.
Added needed wiring for MAP, N112, Evap relay.

Using engine ECU from 2003 Beetle Cabrio with 09G tiptronic. (US ecu)
Car starts and runs but trans in limp with 01314 code in TCU.
Original soft coding on 2.0 ecu was 00003
Replacement ECU was also 00003, changed it to 00004 but can't now seem to be able to change it back again, 01314 code unchanged.

If original 2.0 ecu is fitted code in TCU stays gone but obviously this ecu won't run replacement engine.
The Leak detection pump code is there as our market does not have leak detection pumps and component is not there.

Code:

Sunday,03,March,2019,17:54:33:41053
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64)
Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Workshop Code: 666 12345 054321

VIN: WVWZZZ1YZ3M323112   License Plate:
Mileage: 105000km-65243mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 1Y (1Y - VW New Beetle Cab (2003 > 2010))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 17 19 25 26 29 35 37 39 46 54 56 65 75
 
VIN: WVWZZZ1YZ3M323112   Mileage: 105000km-65243miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06A-906-032-AWV.lbl
   Part No: 06A 906 032 PS
   Component: 1.8l 5VT NBC AG6G   5107 
   Coding: 00004
   Shop #: WSC 12345 
   VCID: 7EF3090F7A5728BAAF-5140
   WVWZZZ1YZ3M323112     VWZ5Z0C3031236

1 Fault Found:
17881 - EVAP Leak Detection Pump
            P1473 - 35-10 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
Readiness: 0110 1101

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09G-927-750.clb
   Part No: 09G 927 750 M
   Component: AQ 250 6F           0303 
   Coding: 0000008
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3B75C01B79C5FD92C8-5140

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ESP-F.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 907 379 M
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0102 
   Coding: 0019458
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3467EB27549B32EA09-5140

3 Faults Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
01312 - Powertrain Data Bus
            014 - Defective - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1T0-909-605.lbl
   Part No: 6Q0 909 605 E
   Component: 07 AIRBAG VW7       0517 
   Coding: 0012343
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3979DA1373F9CF82DA-5140

3 Faults Found:
01738 - Crash Sensor for Front Airbag; Drivers Side (G283)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
01739 - Crash Sensor for Front Airbag; Pass. Side (G284)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1C0-920-x4x.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 920 840 L
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. M73 V03 
   Coding: 03524
   Shop #: WSC 00222 
   VCID: 275D0C6BC54D4972BC-4B04
   WVWZZZ1YZ3M323112     VWZ5Z0C3031236

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    V032 
   Coding: 00006
   Shop #: WSC 00066 
   VCID: 70EF273730034ECA2D-4B1C

1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 26: Auto Roof        Labels: 1Y0-959-255-HYD.lbl
   Part No: 1Y0 959 255
   Component:  VSG  NBC           2604 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 7DF10E03275133A2B6-5140

1 Fault Found:
02461 - Position Sensor for Right Linkage Flap Position Sensor (G443)
            009 - Open or Short to Ground

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 959 799 G
   Component: 2S Komfortgerát HLO 0004 
   Coding: 00256
   Shop #: WSC 00066 
   VCID: 3B75C01B29C5FD92C8-4B04

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1Y0959802
   Component: 6Q Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0005 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1Y0959801B
   Component: 6Q Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0001 

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1Y0959811
   Component: Tõrsteuer.HL KLO 0005 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1Y0959812
   Component: Tõrsteuer.HR KLO 0005 

1 Fault Found:
00932 - Electric Window Motor; Drivers Side (V147)
            62-00 - No or Incorrect Adjustment

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:07)--------------------------

Jack@European_Parts · Mar 3, 2019

Hello & welcome to the VCDS forum, glad to see you stepped through the Stargate from the whoretex.
Very simple.......John & as per email, reiterated.

Install correct parts such as 06A-906-032LR not PS and perform repairs which comport, then do the adaptation procedures as per the RTFB.

Install parts that match the configuration and modules.
What happened to old modules?

JPPSG & FOD!

Remove FOD......

Vehicle Identification No. WVWZZZ1YZ3M323112
Model New Beetle Cabriolet
BEC
Date of production 10.04.2003
Year 2003
Sales type 1Y73GA
Engine Code AZJ/AWU
Transmission Code GGZ

Uwe · Mar 3, 2019

Moving this to Retrofits.

-Uwe-

racofuy · Mar 3, 2019

Thanks Jack
Only the engine ECU has been changed (1.8T vs 2.0)
No other changes have been made.
Would love to install correct parts if I knew what they were.
Do we need the matching TCU for the engine ECU we are using?

racofuy · Mar 3, 2019

Just saw your edited post, I'll look for that specific part# and report back.

Jack@European_Parts · Mar 3, 2019

Just saw your edited post, I'll look for that specific part# and report

Thanks Jack
Only the engine ECU has been changed (1.8T vs 2.0)
No other changes have been made.
Would love to install correct parts if I knew what they were.
Do we need the matching TCU for the engine ECU we are using?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Reman-VW-B...178957?hash=item25cd997fcd:g:XrMAAOSwiONYPxUX

Installing the correct engine is advised or matching a configuration entirely and this transmission is a POS but is the correct controller to the 2.0 NA engine.

Otherwise this is a retrofit or modification and not a qualified repair.

Is this for racing or public transportation?

Jack@European_Parts · Mar 3, 2019

Have you considered maybe convert car to stick with alternate engine controller or install 01M to match with that type 01M compatible engine you installed?

I would be very and I mean very concerned with the fact that any 09G in a BEC is a POS, wouldn't you?

racofuy · Mar 3, 2019

Yes I have suggested and is my prefrence to convert to stick.
Owner has had 09G rebuilt in the past and is wanting to keep it, another talk is needed as he also wants to go stage 1 which I don't feel the 09G will like.

And yes vehicle is just public transport

Uwe · Mar 3, 2019

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the naturally aspirated 2.0 was still a cable-throttle while the 1.8T was a drive-by-wire?

I'd speculate that a different TCM will be required to get along properly with the 1.8T ECU.

-Uwe-

racofuy · Mar 3, 2019

Uwe said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the naturally aspirated 2.0 was still a cable-throttle while the 1.8T was a drive-by-wire?

I'd speculate that a different TCM will be required to get along properly with the 1.8T ECU.

-Uwe-

Both engines are DBW

Jack@European_Parts · Mar 3, 2019

Okay
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the naturally aspirated 2.0 was still a cable-throttle while the 1.8T was a drive-by-wire?

I'd speculate that a different TCM will be required to get along properly with the 1.8T ECU.

-Uwe-

Yeah indeed another 09G trans and controller would be needed to operate with the 1.8T.

Indeed the cabrio POS beetle is DBW with 2.0 or 1.8T with any 09G in USA.

AEG in USA is by cable and stick or 01M.

Yes I have suggested and is my prefrence to convert to stick.
Owner has had 09G rebuilt in the past and is wanting to keep it, another talk is needed as he also wants to go stage 1 which I don't feel the 09G will like.

And yes vehicle is just public transport

Take it to stage NONE !

racofuy · Mar 3, 2019

I see a manual swap in my future.

Jack@European_Parts · Mar 3, 2019

I see a manual swap in my future.

Me too or back to 2.0!

racofuy · Jun 13, 2019

With other projects completed and new clutch arrived I put this back together with the manual box. All is well except a couple.
Cannot re code the engine ecu from 00003 to 00001
Tried logging in with ecu pin and without but soft coding remains at 00003

Traction light on yet no codes.

Auto scan below.

Code:

Thursday,13,June,2019,16:18:50:41053
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 19.6.0.2 (x64)
Data version: 20190529 DS308.0
www.Ross-Tech.com
Workshop Code: 666 12345 054321
VIN: WVWZZZ1YZ3M323112   License Plate: 
Mileage: 105000km-65243mi   Repair Order: 


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Chassis Type: 1Y (1Y - VW New Beetle Cab (2003 > 2010))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 17 19 25 26 29 35 37 39 46 54 56 65 75
 
VIN: WVWZZZ1YZ3M323112   Mileage: 105000km-65243miles
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: None
   Part No: 06A 906 032 KS
   Component: 1.8l 5VT NB AG4     4526  
   Coding: 00003
   Shop #: WSC 12345  
   VCID: 79F91A1363790F87D6-515C
   WVWZZZ1YZ3M323112     VWZ5Z0C3031236
1 Fault Found:
18034 - Powertrain Data Bus 
            P1626 - 35-00 - Missing Message from TCU
Readiness: 0110 1101
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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1C0-907-37x-ESP-F.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 907 379 M
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0102  
   Coding: 0019458
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3467EB27549B32EF45-5140
1 Fault Found:
01315 - Transmission Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1T0-909-605.lbl
   Part No: 6Q0 909 605 E
   Component: 07 AIRBAG VW7       0517  
   Coding: 0012343
   Shop #: WSC 00066 000 00000
   VCID: 3979DA1373F9CF8796-5140
2 Faults Found:
01738 - Crash Sensor for Front Airbag; Drivers Side (G283) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
01739 - Crash Sensor for Front Airbag; Pass. Side (G284) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1C0-920-x4x.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 920 840 L
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. M73 V03  
   Coding: 03524
   Shop #: WSC 00000  
   VCID: 275D0C6BC54D4977F0-4B04
   WVWZZZ1YZ3M323112     VWZ5Z0C3031236
1 Fault Found:
01315 - Transmission Control Module 
            49-00 - No Communications
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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
   Part No: 6N0 909 901 
   Component: Gateway K<->CAN    V032  
   Coding: 00006
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: 70EF273730034ECF61-4B04
1 Fault Found:
01315 - Transmission Control Module 
            49-00 - No Communications
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 26: Auto Roof        Labels: 1Y0-959-255-HYD.lbl
   Part No: 1Y0 959 255 
   Component:  VSG  NBC           2604  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 7DF10E03275133A7FA-5140
1 Fault Found:
02461 - Position Sensor for Right Linkage Flap Position Sensor (G443) 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground
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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
   Part No: 1C0 959 799 G
   Component: 2S Komfortgerát HLO 0004  
   Coding: 00256
   Shop #: WSC 00066  
   VCID: 3B75C01B29C5FD9784-4AEA
   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1Y0959802
   Component: 6Q Tõrsteuer.FS KLO 0005  
   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1Y0959801B
   Component: 6Q Tõrsteuer.BF KLO 0001  
   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1Y0959811
   Component: Tõrsteuer.HL KLO 0005  
   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1Y0959812
   Component: Tõrsteuer.HR KLO 0005  
1 Fault Found:
00932 - Electric Window Motor; Drivers Side (V147) 
            62-00 - No or Incorrect Adjustment
End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:10)--------------------------

racofuy · Jun 13, 2019

Traction light goes out when TCU plugged back in. Still not able to then re code engine ecu to 00001

Uwe · Jun 13, 2019

1.8T ECUs of that vintage were typically not interchangeable (codeable) between between Auto and Manual transmissions. The ECU hardware was the same, but the software in 'em was not.

-Uwe-

racofuy · Jun 13, 2019

It's going stage 1 anyway so ill have a manual file flashed on to it.

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