Lift pump not activating

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Hi

I hope someone can help with my query.

I've just replaced the injectors and fuel filter on my 2005 Audi A6 3.0 TDi (BMK).

I was hoping to use the group 35 function to prime the system before starting the engine. But when I went to group 35 I got an error message - "error group 35 not available". Does that mean my car doesn't have a lift pump?

The VCDS auto-scan is below. Some of the error messages are from when the wife tried to start the car whilst it was in pieces (next time I'll hide the keys!).

Many thanks

Sean

Code:
Friday,01,March,2019,19:24:25:57775
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4437.4
Data version: 20190215 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUZZZ4F96N032034   License Plate: 
Mileage: 250910km-155908mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 4F (4F0)
Scan: 01 02 03 05 07 08 09 0E 15 16 17 19 37 42 46 47 4F 52 53 55
          56 61 62 69 72 76 77

VIN: WAUZZZ4F96N032034   Mileage: 250910km-155908miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 059-907-401-ASB.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 401 A    HW: 4F0 907 401 B
   Component: 3.0L V6TDI  G000AG  0020  
   Revision: --H01---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0011372
   Shop #: WSC 00656 210 83209
   VCID: 1A6EDA72E091A327709-804E

6 Faults Found:
000257 - Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70) 
               P0101 - 001 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00110001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 250127 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.01.27
                    Time: 13:09:07

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1953 /min
                    Torque: 0.0 Nm
                    Speed: 110.9 km/h
                    Duty Cycle: 50.1 %
                    Voltage: 13.83 V
                    Absolute Pres.: 1050.6 mbar
                    Mass Air / Rev.: 470.0 mg/str

001592 - Throttle Body Actuator Bank 1 (J338) 
               P0638 - 002 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Torque: -195.0 Nm
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Voltage: 11.48 V
                    Duty Cycle: 92.7 %
                    Bin. Bits:    010  
                    Mass Air / Rev.: 0.0 mg/str

004499 - Fuel Pressure Sensor (G247) 
               P1193 - 001 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Torque: 265.2 Nm
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Duty Cycle: 1.0 %
                    Voltage: 10.72 V
                    Pressure: 0.0 bar
                    Duty Cycle: 18.5 %

000260 - Mass Air Flow Sensor (G70) 
               P0104 - 001 - Intermittent - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00110001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Torque: 265.2 Nm
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Duty Cycle: 80.9 %
                    Voltage: 10.72 V
                    Absolute Pres.: 1009.8 mbar
                    Mass Air / Rev.: 0.0 mg/str

000387 - Fuel Temp. Sensor A (G81) 
               P0183 - 001 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Torque: 265.2 Nm
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Duty Cycle: 1.0 %
                    Voltage: 10.72 V
                    Pressure: 340.8 bar
                    Temperature: 8.1°C

005445 - Throttle Valve Controller 
               P1545 - 001 - Malfunction - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 14
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 0 /min
                    Torque: 265.2 Nm
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Voltage: 10.72 V
                    Duty Cycle: 92.7 %
                    Bin. Bits:    010  
                    Mass Air / Rev.: 0.0 mg/str

Readiness: 0 1 0 0 0 

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F1 910 156 B    HW: 09L 927 156 A
   Component: AG6 09L 3.0lTDI RdW 0030  
   Revision: --H01---    Serial number:        4042590
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 2310E796D7DBE2EFA3F-8076

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 4F0-910-517.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 517 L    HW: 4F0 614 517 L
   Component: ESP 8.0 quattro H03 0090  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0004488
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 2D0401AE811F249F05B-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels:. 4F0-910-852.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 852     HW: 4F0 905 852 B
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV   H30 0220  
   Revision: 31050601    Serial number: 10600300187560
   Coding: 0000147
   Shop #: WSC 00656 210 83209
   VCID: 6390A796975BA2EFE3F-8036

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 131 E
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS   H44 0070

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 220 D
   Component: FBSAUDIC6 IDG   H39 0040

No fault code found.

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Address 07: Control Head        Labels: 4F0-910-7xx-07-H.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 730 F    HW: 4E0 035 729 
   Component: Interfacebox    H43 2120  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 350FR057568631
   Coding: 0001002
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 2412E48AD2D5E5D7DA5-8070

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 609 B
   Component: Bedienteil MMIC6H03 0010

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000174279

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0107.06.050000000100010725ÿ

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 010725ÿ

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 4F0-910-043.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 043     HW: 4F2 820 043 J
   Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH12 0160  
   Revision: 00000027    Serial number: 00000000148896
   Coding: 0001302
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 5BE09F76AF2B9A2FABF-800E

1 Fault Found:
01274 - Air Flow Flap Positioning Motor (V71) 
            003 - Mechanical Failure - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100011
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 38
                    Reset counter: 119
                    Mileage: 248608 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.12.08
                    Time: 07:42:13

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 13.50 V
                    Temperature: 10.0°C
                    (no units): 188.0
                    (no units): 218.0
                    Temperature: 9.0°C


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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 279     HW: 4F0 907 279 
   Component: ILM Fahrer      H14 0080  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 4F0907279     
   Coding: 0002121
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 6696BE826469D7C7041-8032

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F2 910 113 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer AudiC6  H11 0040  
   Coding: 00022800
   Shop #: WSC 02335  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 910 557   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
   Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH10 0050  
   Coding: 00141886
   Shop #: WSC 02335  

No fault code found.

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Address 0E: Media Player 1        Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 111 F    HW: 4E0 035 111 A
   Component: CD-Changer      H44 0470  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ5ZBE7177922
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 1C62DC6AEAA5DD17625-8048

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 4F0-910-655-8R.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 655 E    HW: 4F0 959 655 B
   Component: 4F AIRBAG AUDI8RH29 0260  
   Revision: 07H29000    Serial number: 0037LD08B5N5  
   Coding: 0013382
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 290CF5BEB5F738BFE93-807C

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332CSME0A384F179

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342CSME0A2C7B76H

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME0518293DI

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME05033145%

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63734SME02082E43Y

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63834SME05192F7DB

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 4F0-910-549.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 549     HW: 4F0 953 549 B
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul H09 0230  
   Revision: 00H09000    Serial number: 90025080100101
   Coding: 0102142
   Shop #: WSC 00656 210 88563
   VCID: 6696BE826469D7C7041-8032

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: Lenkradmodul    H07 0080

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 4F0-910-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 930 A    HW: 4F0 920 980 M
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. M73 H15 0630  
   Revision: 01000000    Serial number: 4PX35PL55     
   Coding: 2049443
   Shop #: WSC 60457 001 1048576
   VCID: 211CED9ECDC7F0FFB13-8074

1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+ 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 120
                    Mileage: 250887 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.03.01
                    Time: 16:39:14


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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 4F0-910-468.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 468 A    HW: 4F0 907 468 D
   Component: Gateway         H10 0060  
   Revision: 10          Serial number: 12008055288084
   Coding: EDFE73C41B3104
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 2708F386A3E30ECFFF7-8072

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 4E0-910-88x-37.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 887 Q    HW: 4E0 919 887 C
   Component: MNS ECE         H44 0850  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 305EU057594249
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 3B203FF64F6BBA2F8BF-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 4F0-910-793-42.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 793 B    HW: 4F0 959 793 B
   Component: TSG FA          H11 0040  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: ‰3q
   Coding: 0003610
   Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
   VCID: 290CF5BEB5F738BFE93-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 4F0-910-289.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 289 G    HW: 4F0 907 289 G
   Component: Komfortgeraet   H19 0140  
   Revision: 01400019    Serial number: 01004778620000
   Coding: 0131835
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 2E0606A28C195F873C1-807A

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 177 
   Component: Innenraumueberw.H01 0020

No fault code found.

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Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 4F0-910-223-BO.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 223 D    HW: 4F0 035 223 D
   Component: DSP-High C6     H09 0170  
   Revision: PROD_01     Serial number: 00000000788056
   Coding: 0000113
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 1F18EB66FBB3C60F877-804A

No fault code found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II        Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 280     HW: 4F0 907 280 A
   Component: ILM Beifahrer   H10 0080  
   Revision:             Serial number: 00000000101129
   Coding: 0001103
   Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
   VCID: 5EE69662BC398F07CC1-800A

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 107
                    Mileage: 250516 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.02.16
                    Time: 19:47:00

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 11.300 V
                    Temperature: 20.0°C


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 4F0-910-793-52.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 793 B    HW: 4F0 959 792 B
   Component: TSG BF          H11 0040  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: "Hq
   Coding: 0003610
   Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
   VCID: 290CF5BEB5F738BFE93-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 4F0-910-801.clb
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 801     HW: 4F0 907 801 
   Component: EPB  C63C0030   H03 0030  
   Revision: C63C0030    
   Coding: 0000321
   Shop #: WSC 02334 785 00200
   VCID: 5DE4916EB13F941FD5B-8008

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 8P0-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 8P0 907 357 C
   Component: Dynamische LWR  H01 0010  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 3A2E3AF240518327909-806E

1 Fault Found:
00070 - Starting Battery Voltage 
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 67
                    Mileage: 250248 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.01.31
                    Time: 20:51:46


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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 4E0-910-541.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 541 L    HW: 4F0 035 541 B
   Component: TUNER EU/US/RDW H42 0560  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 394F/057555766
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 290CF5BEB5F738BFE93-807C

1 Fault Found:
00856 - Radio Antenna 
            011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101011
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 102
                    Mileage: 250415 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.02.09
                    Time: 16:31:02


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Address 61: Battery Regul.        Labels: 4F0-910-181.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 181 F    HW: 4F0 915 181 B
   Component: J0644 BEM       H12 0760  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000137903
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2412E48AD2D5E5D7DA5-8070

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 915 105 D
   Component: von VA0  1506010929       
   Coding: 344630393135313035442056413031353036303130393239
   Shop #: WSC 00656 210 83209

5 Faults Found:
02272 - Quiescent Current Stage 1 
            000 -  -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 7
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 247149 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.09.16
                    Time: 16:47:50

02273 - Quiescent Current Stage 2 
            000 -  -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 247149 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.09.16
                    Time: 17:49:11

02276 - Quiescent Current Stage 5 
            000 -  -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 250887 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.03.01
                    Time: 16:45:38

02274 - Quiescent Current Stage 3 
            000 -  -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 250887 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.03.01
                    Time: 16:45:48

02277 - Quiescent Current Stage 6 
            000 -  -  - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100000
                    Fault Priority: 7
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 250887 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2019.03.01
                    Time: 16:45:58


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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 4F0-910-795.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 795     HW: 4F0 959 795 
   Component: TSG HL          H11 0030  
   Coding: 0003074
   Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
   VCID: 698CB5BE7577F8BF293-803C

No fault code found.

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Address 69: Trailer        Labels: 4F0-910-383.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 383     HW: 4F0 907 383 
   Component: ANHAENGERELEKTR H02 0020  
   Coding: 0000331
   Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
   VCID: 629EA2928841ABE7E89-8036

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 4F0-910-795.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 795     HW: 4F0 959 794 
   Component: TSG HR          H11 0030  
   Coding: 0003074
   Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
   VCID: 698CB5BE7577F8BF293-803C

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 4Fx-910-283.lbl
   Part No SW: 4F0 910 283 C    HW: 4F0 919 283 C
   Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan H12 0020  
   Revision: 00H12000    Serial number: 11820515401776
   Coding: 0211016
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   VCID: 2412E48AD2D5E5D7DA5-8070

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 4E0-910-336.lbl
   Part No SW: 4E0 910 336 F    HW: 4E0 862 335 
   Component: Handyvorb2      H10 0580  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000007558494
   Coding: 0010900
   Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
   VCID: 2514F98ED9EF1CDFCDB-8070

No fault code found.

End----(Elapsed Time: 01:53, VBatt start/end: 11.9V/11.9V. VIgn 11.9V)-----
 
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Check if there isn't an Output Test (Selective) for Fuel Pump Relay.

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I'd appreciate any more thoughts or opinions on this issue.

I'm new to VCDS so maybe I'm making some school boy assumptions about what I can and can't do with VCDS! :)

If I can't prime the fuel system using VCDS then I need a plan B....

Thanks
 
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Have you:
Attached battery charger
Ignition activated
Then activate basic setting for MWB 035, even there is no text showed ?
Do you have an Secure Access button that is not Grayed ?
This was just for confirmation.

In the manual, it is described, there is no bleeding for this Engine, due to construction.
It is done while activating starter.
 
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Hello,

I've just replaced the injectors and fuel filter on my 2005 Audi A6 3.0 TDi (BMK).

I was hoping to use the group 35 function to prime the system before starting the engine. But when I went to group 35 I got an error message - "error group 35 not available". Does that mean my car doesn't have a lift pump?

This engine supports the following Basic Settings:
[003] - Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR)
[033] - Basic setting: Turbocharger
[044] - Basic setting: Intake manifold flap 1
[055] - Basic setting: Intake manifold flap 2
[063] - Adapting kickdown point


If you do any work on the fuel system of a BMK (and other) 3.0L TDI engine, the Official Audi Factory repair manual states the following:

Bleeding fuel system
"Vehicles with engine codes ASB, BHQ, BMK, BMZ, BNG, BPP, BSG, BLB, BNA, BRE, BRF, BVG:
Due to the design of the engine, with a fuel system pressurisation pump located in the fuel tank, it is not necessary to bleed the fuel system.
The fuel system bleeds itself when the starter is operated. "

This and more information can be found at erWin Audi



Hope this helps,

drpeter
 
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I absolutely agree with NEtech and DrPeter, because the repair manual does NOT indicate a diagnostic bleed is needed, but I would want to try to force the electric pump(s) to run before cranking that engine over. I just don't like the idea of a dry-start or dry-crank on a CR TDI.

Uwe's SOT suggestion is our only shot if you don't want to hot-wire power and ground to the pump(s) or bypass a relay. We have a German file with SOT Kraftstoffpumpenrelais (J17) listed as an option but it isn't in English VCDS. If you'd like to see if that will activate the relay please drop an email to Support with a link to this thread and I'll send you a file in reply to experiment with.

Edit. I added English SOT descriptions to the label so we have something ready to go if you want to try it.
 
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Rustychain

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Hi everyone

Many thanks for all your helpful comments and suggestions (especially about the specifics for my particular engine - i need to get access to ERWIN).

I'd assumed I needed to prime the engine using this guide:
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Fuel_Pump_Basic_Settings_for_PD,_PPD,_and_CR_TDI_Engines

I realise now that I was looking for the output tests, as suggested by Uwe, in the wrong place - [01 Engine] [Basic settings 04]

I should have been looking at [01 Engine] [Output tests 03] - Fuel pump relay J17 from the drop down (I clearly need to read the manual and familiarise myself with VCDS some more!)

I'm pleased to report that the pump(s) kicked in when I followed the above procedure and the car is running.

Thanks also to Dana for the English SOT file which worked! :)
 
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