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    I did make sure the warning could be seen, no?
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    I've given the board a good clean and dry out, and left it over night in a warm room. (no sun in the UK to dry it out!) Wiring harness and terminals look fine. The board however has definitely suffered from water damage with various corroded sections.
    No sun roof on this car so I'm guess the water is getting in from the scuttle panel area. The under bonnet is dripping with water though like some one has attacked it with a pressure washer!
    I refitted the board this morning and the car unlocked and started fine, but another scan reveals the same faults. So i'm guessing this fault is going to reoccur!

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    Fix water leak and do a transfer while you can or you will be sorry .....echo echo echo echo..............
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    Just to update this, I left this Phaeton to dry out and sent the Kessy away to be repaired. The board was damaged in various places. In the end another Kessy was sourced and the data was transferred.

    First scan with the replacement Kessy

    Code:
    Thursday,04,April,2019,15:36:13:39924
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
    VCDS Version: 18.9.0.2  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4436.4
    Data version: 20180927 DS296.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    
    
    Chassis Type: 3D - VW Phaeton (2002 > 2006)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 11 13 15 16 17 18 19 23 27 28 29 2E
              34 36 37 38 39 46 47 55 56 57 65 66 68 69 71 75 76 77
     
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    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels: 3D0-909-13x-05.lbl
       Part No SW: 3D0 909 139     HW: 5WK 484 94
       Component: 0C Kessy            6700  
       Revision: 6700I515    Serial number: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
       Coding: 0000000
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 6695B5FE447E7277049-5160
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 905 852 E
       Component: ELV                 1940
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01042 - Control Module; Not Coded 
                005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
    
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    Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: None
       Part No: 3D0 815 005 AG
       Component: Standheizung        2426  
       Shop #: WSC 00581 210 71766
       VCID: 629DA9EEA8560E57E81-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 
       VCID: 55F78232EC08E9EF9D3-5160
       Note: Excessive Comm Errors
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 7Lx-035-4xx-47.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 035 465 A
       Component: 08K-AUDIOVERST      0112  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 1F1BE01ADBA463BF87F-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 57: TV Tuner        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 3D0 919 148     HW: 3D0 919 148 
       Component: TV-Tuner            0060  
       Revision: R0H12000    Serial number: 91100500029201
       Coding: 0080001
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 678BB8FA43746B7F3FF-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----(Elapsed Time: 10:22, VBatt start/end: 12.2V/12.5V. VIgn 0.0V)------
    Last time it scanned I get:

    Code:
    Wednesday,10,April,2019,16:25:20:39924
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
    VCDS Version: 18.9.0.2
    Data version: 20180927 DS296.0
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    VIN: WVWZZZ3DZ78001179   License Plate: 
    
    
    
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    Chassis Type: 3D - VW Phaeton (2002 > 2006)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 11 13 15 16 17 18 19 23 27 28 29 2E
              34 36 37 38 39 46 47 55 56 57 65 66 68 69 71 75 76 77
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: 
       VCID: 55F78232EC08E9EF9D3-5160
       Note: Excessive Comm Errors
    Excessive comms errors, every where. I'm guessing the water has gone to town on the wiring (it is still very damp in the car!)

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    Sure you had ignition on for that? You had to go to and through the instrument cluster to access the other devices in the car, but it's not in the scan...
    Silence gives consent.

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    Well no not really, key was in the ignition. But I'm not getting a response from the ignition key other than the steering lock working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hwash View Post
    Well no not really, key was in the ignition.
    Yeah I was kind of feeling that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hwash View Post
    But I'm not getting a response from the ignition key other than the steering lock working.
    No faults other than the coding fault, unless you've cleared stuff we're not seeing... and if your ESCL pops in response to the key, your Immo identity transfer went okay.

    Code:
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    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels: 3D0-909-13x-05.lbl
       Part No SW: 3D0 909 139     HW: 5WK 484 94
       Component: 0C Kessy            6700  
       Revision: 6700I515    Serial number: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
       Coding: 0000000
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 6695B5FE447E7277049-5160
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 905 852 E
       Component: ELV                 1940
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01042 - Control Module; Not Coded 
                005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
    
    Maybe go ahead and take care of that missing coding and see what you get? Needs to be done anyway. Just transfer your original coding from your first scan, which was 0004328.
    Silence gives consent.

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    Thanks for your assistance,

    So a new scan with the ignition on

    I attempted to add the missing coding and I get 'Coding rejected out of range Error 31'



    Code:
    Wednesday,10,April,2019,16:25:20:39924
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
    VCDS Version: 18.9.0.2
    Data version: 20180927 DS296.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ3DZ78001179   License Plate: 
    
    
    
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    Chassis Type: 3D - VW Phaeton (2002 > 2006)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 11 13 15 16 17 18 19 23 27 28 29 2E
              34 36 37 38 39 46 47 55 56 57 65 66 68 69 71 75 76 77
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: 
       VCID: 55F78232EC08E9EF9D3-5160
       Note: Excessive Comm Errors
    
    
    Thursday,11,April,2019,09:49:21:39924
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
    VCDS Version: 18.9.0.2  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4436.4
    Data version: 20180927 DS296.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ3DZ78001179   License Plate: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 3D - VW Phaeton (2002 > 2006)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 06 07 08 09 11 13 15 16 17 18 19 23 27 28 29 2E
              34 36 37 38 39 46 47 55 56 57 65 66 68 69 71 75 76 77
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels: 3D0-909-13x-05.lbl
       Part No SW: 3D0 909 139     HW: 5WK 484 94
       Component: 0C Kessy            6700  
       Revision: 6700I515    Serial number: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
       Coding: 0000000
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 6695B5FE447E7277049-5160
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 905 852 E
       Component: ELV                 1940
    
    2 Faults Found:
    01042 - Control Module; Not Coded 
                005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
    01176 - Key 
                008 - Implausible Signal
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass        Labels: 3D0-959-759.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 959 759 CA
       Component: Sitzmemory D1 BF    1722  
       Coding: 0000003
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 77ABE8BA13D4FBFFAFF-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 3D0-907-040.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 907 040 J
       Component: Climatronic D1      2031  
       Coding: 0000001
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 2517F2F2F9F8B96FCD3-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 3D0-953-549.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 953 549 E
       Component: Lenksäulenmodul     3401  
       Coding: 0000232
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 2F3B10DAAB04F33F37F-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 18: Aux. Heat        Labels: None
       Part No: 3D0 815 005 AG
       Component: Standheizung        2426  
       Shop #: WSC 00581 210 71766
       VCID: 629DA9EEA8560E57E81-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: 3D0-959-760.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 959 760 CA
       Component: Sitzmemory D1 F     1722  
       Coding: 0000004
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 6FBBD0DA6B84B33F77F-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 
       VCID: 55F78232EC08E9EF9D3-5160
       Note: Excessive Comm Errors
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 38: Roof Electronics        Labels: 3D0-907-135.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 907 135 C
       Component: Dachmodul           0708  
       Coding: 0000062
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 2313ECEAF7CC475FA37-5160
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00455 - Control Module for Access and Start Control; Comfort CAN (J518) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
    00221 - Connection to Interior Monitoring 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 3D0-959-933.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 959 933 F
       Component: X3 HSG              0102  
       Coding: 0000040
       Shop #: WSC 00566 210 80271
       VCID: 33331CAA472CD7DF537-4B00
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 3D2 959 701 H
       Component: Tuersteuergeraet FS 0201
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 3D2 959 702 H
       Component: Tuersteuergeraet BF 0201
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No: 3D0 959 703 G
       Component: Tuersteuergeraet HL 0201
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No: 3D0 959 704 G
       Component: Tuersteuergeraet HR 0201
    
       Subsystem 5 - Part No: 3D0 909 610 E
       Component: 3O HDSG             2530
    
       Subsystem 6 - Part No: 7L0 907 719 A
       Component:    Neigungssensor   0020
    
    13 Faults Found:
    00455 - Control Module for Access and Start Control; Comfort CAN (J518) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    00477 - Control Module; Display & Input; Comfort CAN; Front (J523) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
    00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
    00576 - Terminal 15 
                008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    01134 - Alarm Horn (H12) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
    01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386) 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
    00932 - Electric Window Motor; Drivers Side (V147) 
                005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation - Intermittent
    01332 - Door Control Module; Passenger Side (J387) 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
    01333 - Door Control Module; Rear Left (J388) 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
    01334 - Door Control Module; Rear Right (J389) 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
    00931 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Rear Right (F223) 
                008 - Implausible Signal
    00318 - Supply Voltage for Rear Lid Control Module 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
    00896 - Trunk Lock Unit (F256) 
                008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 7Lx-035-4xx-47.lbl
       Part No: 3D0 035 465 A
       Component: 08K-AUDIOVERST      0112  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 1F1BE01ADBA463BF87F-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 57: TV Tuner        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 3D0 919 148     HW: 3D0 919 148 
       Component: TV-Tuner            0060  
       Revision: R0H12000    Serial number: 91100500029201
       Coding: 0080001
       Shop #: WSC 01065 000 00000
       VCID: 678BB8FA43746B7F3FF-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 68: Wiper Electr.        Labels: 3Dx-955-1xx-V1.clb
       Part No: 3D2 955 120 A
       Component: Front Wiper         3000  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2019E3E6E6DA5C47BE5-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: None
       Part No: 3D0 919 283 D
       Component: 01 Einparkhilfe     0907  
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2B0304CA9F1C8F1F1B7-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 3W7-035-385.lbl
       Part No SW: 3W7 035 385 H    HW: 3W7 035 385 H
       Component: UHV Premium rSAP    0037  
       Coding: 0002320
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 41DF46620D90754FD1B-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----(Elapsed Time: 09:37, VBatt start/end: 12.4V/12.4V. VIgn 0.0V)------
    
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    Address 05,3D0 909 139 ,recoded (Short coding),from,0000000,to,0004328,(01065/000/00000),
    
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    Address 05,3D0 909 139 ,recoded (Short coding),from,0000000,to,0004328,(01065/000/00000),
    
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    Address 05,3D0 909 139 ,recoded (Short coding),from,0000000,to,0004328,(01065/000/00000),
    
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    Address 05,3D0 909 139 ,recoded (Short coding),from,0000000,to,0004328,(01065/000/00000),

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