"Check Brake Pads" message on 2000 Passat B5 variant v6 auto trans

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Like the train here in Knoxville, lets derail this thread...

Okay so what qualifies a WD being an illegal WD?

When I started to develop our own introduction to VW/Audi training class, I looked into getting permission to use 2 or 3 pages of some wiring diagram to use in training. As I recall, the price I was given to license would be well over $20,000 per year.


At that price, we could of just purchased everyone a 3 day pass to ERWIN and have the full wiring diagrams... .and save over $19,500 bucks.
 
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Like the train here in Knoxville, lets derail this thread...

Okay!

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When I started to develop our own introduction to VW/Audi training class, I looked into getting permission to use 2 or 3 pages of some wiring diagram to use in training. As I recall, the price I was given to license would be well over $20,000 per year.


Did you know that certain and limited materials as per the CAA are required to comport with public disclosure of some or certain sample documents by the OEM and maybe freely distributed in the public domain?

Boy I hope the Right to Repair Act moves forward with much better required disseminated materials for the AFT, don't you?

Did someone say Black Jack and Hookers, where?
 
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https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/40/51.369


40 CFR § 51.369 - Improving repair effectiveness.

§ 51.369 Improving repair effectiveness.
Effective repairs are the key to achieving program goals and the State shall take steps to ensure the capability exists in the repair industry to repair vehicles that fail I/M tests.

(a)Technical assistance. The oversight agency shall provide the repair industry with information and assistance related to vehicle inspection diagnosis and repair.

(1) The agency shall regularly inform repair facilities of changes in the inspection program, training course schedules, common problems being found with particular engine families, diagnostic tips and the like.

(2) The agency shall provide a hot line service to assist repair technicians with specific repair problems, answer technical questions that arise in the repair process, and answer questions related to the legal requirements of State and Federal law with regard to emission control device tampering, engine switching, or similar issues.

(b)Performance monitoring.

(1) In enhanced I/M program areas, the oversight agency shall monitor the performance of individual motor vehicle repair facilities, and provide to the public at the time of initial failure, a summary of the performance of local repair facilities that have repaired vehicles for retest. Performance monitoring shall include statistics on the number of vehicles submitted for a retest after repair by the repair facility, the percentage passing on first retest, the percentage requiring more than one repair/retest trip before passing, and the percentage receiving a waiver. Programs may provide motorists with alternative statistics that convey similar information on the relative ability of repair facilities in providing effective and convenient repair, in light of the age and other characteristics of vehicles presented for repair at each facility.

(2) Programs shall provide feedback, including statistical and qualitative information to individual repair facilities on a regular basis (at least annually) regarding their success in repairing failed vehicles.

(3) A prerequisite for a retest shall be a completed repair form that indicates which repairs were performed, as well as any technician recommended repairs that were not performed, and identification of the facility that performed the repairs.

(c)Repair technician training. The State shall assess the availability of adequate repair technician training in the I/M area and, if the types of training described in paragraphs (c)(1) through (4) of this section are not currently available, shall insure that training is made available to all interested individuals in the community either through private or public facilities. This may involve working with local community colleges or vocational schools to add curricula to existing programs or start new programs or it might involve attracting private training providers to offer classes in the area. The training available shall include:

(1) Diagnosis and repair of malfunctions in computer controlled, close-loop vehicles;

(2) The application of emission control theory and diagnostic data to the diagnosis and repair of failures on the transient emission test and the evaporative system functional checks (where applicable);

(3) Utilization of diagnostic information on systematic or repeated failures observed in the transient emission test and the evaporative system functional checks (where applicable); and

(4) General training on the various subsystems related to engine emission control.

(d)SIP requirements. The SIP shall include a description of the technical assistance program to be implemented, a description of the procedures and criteria to be used in meeting the performance monitoring requirements of this section, and a description of the repair technician training resources available in the community.

[57 FR 52987, Nov. 5, 1992, as amended at 65 FR 45535, July 24, 2000]


https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/7521

[h=1]42 U.S. Code § 7521.Emission standards for new motor vehicles or new motor vehicle engines[/h]
(4)Specific requirementsIn promulgating regulations under this subsection, the Administrator shall require—(A)that any connectors through which the emission control diagnostics system is accessed for inspection, diagnosis, service, or repair shall be standard and uniform on all motor vehicles and motor vehicle engines;

(B)that access to the emission control diagnostics system through such connectors shall be unrestricted and shall not require any access code or any device which is only available from a vehicle manufacturer; and

(C)that the output of the data from the emission control diagnostics system through such connectors shall be usable without the need for any unique decoding information or device.


(5)Information availabilityThe Administrator, by regulation, shall require (subject to the provisions of section 7542(c) of this title regarding the protection of methods or processes entitled to protection as trade secrets) manufacturers to provide promptly to any person engaged in the repairing or servicing of motor vehicles or motor vehicle engines, and the Administrator for use by any such persons, with any and all information needed to make use of the emission control diagnostics system prescribed under this subsection and such other information including instructions for making emission related diagnosis and repairs. No such information may be withheld under section 7542(c) of this titleif that information is provided (directly or indirectly) by the manufacturer to franchised dealers or other persons engaged in the repair, diagnosing, or servicing of motor vehicles or motor vehicle engines. Such information shall also be available to the Administrator,subject to section 7542(c) of this title, in carrying out the Administrator’s responsibilities under this section.

 
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When I started to develop our own introduction to VW/Audi training class, I looked into getting permission to use 2 or 3 pages of some wiring diagram to use in training. As I recall, the price I was given to license would be well over $20,000 per year.
The actual figures I obtained Jef were $7500 a year for the right to use one wiring diagram and $250 for each copy we were were going to print. It was assumed that every member of a class would get a copy.

So, to put on the class at the Automechanika Chicago, it would have cost us $7500 plus (60x$250)*2 classes = $37,500. How much were we paid to conduct the two classes? ZERO!

We also used your material for 1 class locally which I led.

I think you did a class or two..

Needless to say, VWoA was not in a supportive mood.
 
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