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    A4 B8 LED Euro Spec Retrofit

    Waiting for full verification so I'll get the ball rolling here and hopefully a moderator can approve me and move this to Retrofits.

    So far I've bought the set from ECS tuning and fit them to make sure they will work.
    I've 3d printed new connectors and added terminals to each for the new lights.
    Next question I have is wiring in the new seperate turn signal which will now be amber.
    Here is a list of my pins vs the old and the current coding following.
    My question thus far is what coding needs to be changed and what pin from the 46 control module needs to be added to gian the turn signals.

    I checked this side using a 12v battery and working out what each connector linked up to bulb wise.
    Left Main
    1 Grey / Black - Brake / Turn
    2 Black - Reverse
    3 Green - Sidelight
    4 Brown - Ground

    Left Inner
    1 Blue / Black - Rear Fog
    2 Brown - Ground
    3 Gray - Sidelight
    4 Yellow / Grey - Sidelight
    (Both sidelights are independent bulbs left and right bulbs).

    I have not checked exactly what the right side does because I assumed it was the same as the other side but I am unsure now.
    Right Inner
    1 White / Grey
    2 Brown
    3 Grey
    4 Blue / Grey

    Right Main
    1 Brown
    2 Yellow / Brown
    3 White / Black
    4 Green / Black

    Coding:
    195-14848
    196-14881
    197-13320
    198-13352
    203-14849
    204-14881
    205-13
    206-45
    207-73
    208-105
    209-51202
    210-51234
    211-51214
    212-51215
    213-16689
    214-3

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    Gonna need you to post a full Auto-Scan to be able to advise on coding changes...

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    Code:
    Saturday,22,September,2018,23:40:57:23117
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64(Parallels)
    VCDS Version 18.2.1.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4411.4
    Data version: 20180518 DS287.1
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: xxxxx965   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 115020km-71470mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: FL-AU48 (8T0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 2E 36 42 46 47 52 53 55 56 62
              6D 72 77
    
    VIN: WAUWFBFL3CA048965   Mileage: 115020km-71470miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
    36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (0-----CAEB)       Labels:| 06H-907-115-CAB.clb
       Part No SW: 8K2 907 115 AG    HW: 8K2 907 115 D
       Component: 2.0l R4/4V TF H20 0002  
       Revision: E1H20---    
       Coding: 010C010A290F0160
       Shop #: WSC 06334 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TFS0118K2907115AG 001002
       ROD: EV_ECM20TFS0118K2907115AG.rod
       VCID: 74B2D403AE3E8B7765F-8021
    
    1 Fault Found:
    4007 - Idle Control System RPM 
              P0507 00 [096] - Higher than Expected.
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 114943 km
                        Date: 2018.09.20
                        Time: 21:23:00
    
                        Engine speed: 818.00 /min
                        Normed load value: 18.8 %
                        Vehicle speed: 0 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: 93 ∞C
                        Intake air temperature: 42 ∞C
                        Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 13.711 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 35
    
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels:| 0BK-927-156.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 927 158 S    HW: 0BK 927 156 R
       Component: 0BK 20TFSIUSA H08 1003  
       Revision: --H08---    
       Coding: 000002
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAL551211 002018
       ROD: EV_TCMAL551211_002_AU48.rod
       VCID: 46D65ECB882249E70BB-8013
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 8K0-907-379-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 379 BJ    HW: 8K0 907 379 BJ
       Component: ESP8 quattro  H04 0060  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 1D0D18
       Shop #: WSC 06334 000 00000
       VCID: 025E82DBE40AB5C7673-8057
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 CH    HW: 8K0 907 064 CH
       Component: BCM2 2.0      H05 0435  
       Revision: 00002001    
       Coding: 0D0200
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 78AAE033B2D6EF17497-802D
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 D    HW: 8K0 905 852 D
       Component: J764 ELV MLB  H37 0042 
       Serial number: 2311000172027002    
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:. 8Tx-820-043-3Z.clb
       Part No SW: 8T1 820 043 AQ    HW: 8T1 820 043 AQ
       Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H08 0180  
       Revision: C1000000    Serial number: 01210820111931
       Coding: 64002000
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 005A88D3EA06A7D7717-8055
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 8K0-907-063.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 P    HW: 8K0 907 063 P
       Component: BCM1 1.0      H30 0392  
       Revision: 10030001    Serial number: 00000001190065
       Coding: 26001091063CAF010000080300003D0D0F1C460802010161000000
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 3C223C23C66E03376DF-8069
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K1 955 119 A    HW: 8T1 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: WWS 170811  H07 0070 
       Serial number: SWF11080175160      
       Coding: 00FD11
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 955 559     HW: 8K0 955 559   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
       Component: RLS  H04 0003 
       Serial number: 11619924            
       Coding: 025028
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AS    HW: 8K0 941 531 AS
       Component: E1 - LDS  H03 0031 
       Serial number: 00000000001408110257
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 8K0 907 410 C    HW: 8K0 907 410 C
       Component: HOMELINK  H01 0010 
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01500 - Bulb for Fog-Lamps; Right (L23) 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 142
                        Mileage: 115029 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2018.09.22
                        Time: 23:03:00
    
    
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    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 8K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 K    HW: 8K0 959 655 K
       Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H44 0610  
       Serial number: 003GLD0NXC0Z  
       Coding: 303937354230303030304A55304C384B3053
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 003010
       ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_003_AU48.rod
       VCID: 45D459C7B52442FF021-8011
    
       Seat occupied recognition: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 339 C    HW: 8K0 959 339 C
       Component: BF-Gewichtss.  H02 0040 
       Serial number: 5810000R1100005ZT2
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 6334MSME63037052%
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 6344MSME63037566A
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
       Serial number: 6352QSME705A0248D
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
       Serial number: 6362QSME725C1476M
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 63732SME535A287EA
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 63832SME005B4A760
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:. 8K0-953-568.clb
       Part No SW: 8R0 953 568 K    HW: 8R0 953 568 K
       Component: Lenks.Modul   H07 0156  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 20110824000578
       Coding: 000037
       Shop #: WSC 06335 123 12345
       VCID: 49CC55F799BCA69FE69-801D
    
       Component: E221 - MFL  H02 0010 
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:. 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 920 950 H    HW: 8K0 920 950 H
       Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H20 0258  
       Revision: 00300000    Serial number: EIL24F18C     
       Coding: 831F11000300D705020000
       Shop #: WSC 06335 123 12345
       VCID: 34321403EE3ECB77A5F-8061
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 8T0-907-468.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 907 468 AB    HW: 8T0 907 468 H
       Component: GW-BEM 5CAN   H06 0117  
       Revision: GB800053    Serial number: 5300G118098761
       Coding: 00C303
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 015C8DD7E10CAEDF7E9-8055
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 915 181 E    HW: 8K0 915 181 E
       Component: J367-BDM  H07 0170 
       Serial number: 110302CC100811      
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 2E: Media Player 3 (R199)       Labels:. 8T0-035-785.clb
       Part No SW: 8T0 035 785 A    HW: 8T0 035 785 
       Component: SG ext.Player H08 0290  
       Revision: 00000000    
       Coding: 020302
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 392C2537C95C361F769-806D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136)       Labels:. 8T0-959-760.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 760 D    HW: 8K0 959 760 D
       Component: MEM-FS        H06 0074  
       Revision: AA000000    Serial number: 00000011870991
       Coding: 00581B00000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 3B203F3FC360040F645-806F
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 8K0-959-793.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 793 M    HW: 8K0 959 793 M
       Component: TSG FA        H12 0357  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000118938504 
       Coding: 011C13204E00410001
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 4ACE6AFB9CBAAD87EF3-801F
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-46.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 CH    HW: 8K0 907 064 CH
       Component: BCM2 2.0      H05 0435  
       Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0154859572    
       Coding: 0126063A20BA741580B0023200000000
       Shop #: WSC 06335 123 12345
       VCID: 78AAE033B2D6EF17497-802D
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 719 B    HW: 8K0 959 719 
       Component: GTO BF  H01 0070 
       Serial number: 00000000000000427646
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 591 A    HW: 8K0 959 591 
       Component: J245 PS137  H07 0041 
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 591 A    HW: 8K0 959 591 
       Component: J394 PS229  H07 0041 
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01565 - Luggage Compartment Light (W3) 
                009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 6
                        Reset counter: 142
                        Mileage: 113347 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2018.09.03
                        Time: 11:20:07
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System (J525)       Labels:. 8T0-035-223-ASC.clb
       Part No SW: 8R0 035 223 G    HW: 8R0 035 223 E
       Component: DSP STD       H11 0460  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000000001
       Coding: 0203010102
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 303A18131A26F757C17-8065
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 8K0-959-792.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 792 M    HW: 8K0 959 792 M
       Component: TSG BF        H12 0357  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000118703953 
       Coding: 011C13204E00410001
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 49CC55F799BCA69FE69-801D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake (J540)       Labels: 8K0-907-801-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 H    HW: 8K0 907 801 H
       Component: EPB Audi B8   H09 0100  
       Revision: 00000003    Serial number: 20000000083445
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 34321403EE3ECB77A5F-8061
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 8K0-907-357.clb
       Part No: 8K5 907 357 B
       Component: Dynamische LWR  H01 0010  
       Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000004
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 392C2537C55C361F769-806D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 8Tx-035-1xx-56.clb
       Part No SW: 8T1 035 186 R    HW: 8T1 035 186 R
       Component: Con3 Sirius   H06 0351  
       Revision: 00000011    Serial number: AUZ5Z6K1635983
       Coding: 04020002010285004BD9070802
       Shop #: WSC 06335 123 12345
       VCID: 46D65ECB88A249E70BB-8013
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 603 F    HW: 8T0 919 603 F
       Component: Display  
    
    2 Faults Found:
    02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated 
                000 -  - 
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100000
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 45
                        Mileage: 113333 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2018.09.01
                        Time: 22:22:33
    
    03157 - Functionality limited due to Communications Disruption 
                000 -  -  - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 35
                        Reset counter: 142
                        Mileage: 113347 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2018.09.03
                        Time: 11:50:58
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        Bin. Bits: 10000000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
                        Bin. Bits: 00000000
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 8K0-959-795.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 F    HW: 8K0 959 795 F
       Component: TSG HL        H11 0357  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000012126278 
       Coding: 010C13204000210001
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 45D459C7B5A442FF021-8011
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (J605)       Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 8K9 827 851 A    HW: 8K9 827 851 A
       Component: J605  Master  H52 0330  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 8K9827851A    
       VCID: 3C223C23C66E03376DF-8069
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K9 827 852 A    HW: 8K9 827 852 A
       Component: J756  Slave  H52 0330 
       Serial number: 8K9827852A          
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 8K0-959-795.clb
       Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 F    HW: 8K0 959 795 F
       Component: TSG HR        H11 0357  
       Revision:             Serial number: 0000012126533 
       Coding: 010C13204000210001
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 45D459C7B5A442FF021-8011
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
       Part No SW: 8T0 862 336 F    HW: 8T0 862 336 E
       Component: FSE_256x BT     H45 0660  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000005239488
       Coding: 0010370
       Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
       VCID: 3E26362BDC72112743B-806B
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:47, VBatt start/end: 12.6V/12.2V)-----------
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    Hope that's what your looking for, thanks for the help
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    Verified. Moving to Retrofits.

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Hi

    Have you purchased OEM lights or aftermarket ones? If it's the latter then usually they done need coding.
    I'm also a little concerned about your comments of 3D printing new connectors and adding terminals. What specifically are you trying to achieve?

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    Quote Originally Posted by myounus View Post
    Hi

    Have you purchased OEM lights or aftermarket ones? If it's the latter then usually they don't need coding.
    I'm also a little concerned about your comments of 3D printing new connectors and adding terminals. What specifically are you trying to achieve?
    Not sure why you are concerned with the connectors I live in Florida and don't have the issues associated with corrosion up North in the US. I've printed the connectors already and they fit snug and work really well. As for programming and wiring I will 100% have to reprogram and rewire the tails as the US spec lights don't have amber turns as the Euro Spec do. The lights I ordered are from Germany, not after market they have rebranded OEM Euro Spec tails.

    As for what I'm trying to achieve well that's simple a cheap easy way to change the lights from US spec to Euro Spec trying to find the connectors I have was nearly impossible and the site I found them on it would take almost 3 months to get to me. So I took the short cut and designed the connectors in CAD and ordered the terminals, fitted last week and tested with a 12v battery and they work great and don't come out unless you pull really hard will post pictures of that later once I've completed this retrofit.

    There is a thread on audizine that walks people through this retrofit however the lights and connectors are slightly different so I just wanted to confirm the exact coding needed. Talked it through with someone over there and cleared it up was hoping to find some answers over here before they responded.

    Thanks for the help,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Planekiller1 View Post
    Not sure why you are concerned with the connectors I live in Florida and don't have the issues associated with corrosion up North in the US.
    That's certainly not true for all of Florida. If you're close enough to the ocean, it can be far worse for corrosion than the northern parts of the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    That's certainly not true for all of Florida. If you're close enough to the ocean, it can be far worse for corrosion than the northern parts of the US.
    Anywhere liable to salt water spray (whether from the sea or from salted roads), regardless of the temperature, is seriously bad news for electrical connections.

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    Ok well set the corrosion issue aside the connectors that are 3d printed are sealed so it's unlikely to present an issue however I'll check them in 6 months and get back to you and would we mind focusing on the main issue in this thread the coding changes needed.

    Right now all the lights are working as requested but that's only because I turned 181 to 0 which inhibits bulb detection and errors on the dash. This also solved the blinker only doing one cycle then turning off So all the lights are working however the errors are still hidden behind the scene.
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