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    Audi A7 None start - J393 convenience module help needed

    Hi all, I have an audi A7, that is dead. No start or authorisation is being given to the steering lock, I have found no power on row of the fuses, which is controlled by 15 terminal relay, the earth request is not being sent from the convenience module. I have bypassed to get dash lights back and the gearbox lever surround lighting is now functioning, but the car still will not start on a push start button and the electric steering lock will not deactivate and electric windows will not shut.

    Can a second hand convenience module be programmed with VCDs or do i need a new unit?

    Anyone got any other ideas?

    Please see attached log.
    Code:
    Monday,04,February,2019,18:27:59:63423
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64)  HEX-NET CB: 0.4436.4
    Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ4G5CN069926   License Plate: A7SKU
    Mileage: 143042km-88882mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 4G-AU57 (4G0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 30 3B 42 44 46 52 53 55 5F 62
              6D 72
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ4G5CN069926   Mileage: 143042km-88882miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    30-Special Function II -- Status: OK 0000
    3B-Sensor Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: Cannot be reached 0100
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CLAB)       Labels:. 059-907-401-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 4G0 907 311 G    HW: 4G0 907 401 
       Component: 3.0TDI EDC17  H37 0003  
       Revision: 53H37---    
       Coding: 1A034012040401020800
       Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30TDI0114G0907311G 001003
       ROD: EV_ECM30TDI0114G0907311G.rod
       VCID: 271E27AD5E1AAB72BC-8072
    
    1 Fault Found:
    5618 - Engine Off Timer Performance 
              P150A 00 [096] - -
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels:| 0AW-927-156.clb
       Part No SW: 4G1 927 155 F    HW: 0AW 927 156 K
       Component: 0AW 30TDI RdW H04 0002  
       Revision: --H04---    Serial number: 0000000248
       Coding: 000001
       Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMVL381 A02428
       ROD: EV_TCMVL381.rod
       VCID: 2F2ECF8D76EAF33274-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 4G0-907-379-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 4G0 907 379 F    HW: 4G0 907 379 F
       Component: ESP PREMIUM   H09 0250  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
       Coding: 07A18703E085E1C0DB00
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ESPPremiAU57X 004017
       ROD: EV_ESPPremiAU57X_004_AU57.rod
       VCID: 3424C0E19FCCD0EA09-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
       Part No SW: 4H0 907 064 BN    HW: 4H0 907 064 BN
       Component: BCM2 2.0      H31 0333  
       Revision: 00002001    
       Coding: 01BA3000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       VCID: 76A03AE9C13082FAF7-8022
    
    3 Faults Found:
    01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393) 
                013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101101
                        Fault Priority: 6
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 23
                        Mileage: 143042 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.02.03
                        Time: 07:55:09
    
    02811 - Control Module for Electronic Steering Column Lock (J764) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 239
                        Mileage: 143042 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.02.03
                        Time: 07:55:09
    
    01128 - Immobilizer Pickup Coil (D2) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 239
                        Mileage: 143042 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.02.03
                        Time: 00:03:17
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 4G0-820-043-2Z.clb
       Part No SW: 4G0 820 043 G    HW: 4G0 820 043 G
       Component: KLIMA 2 ZONEN H10 0062  
       Serial number: 19101100040289
       Coding: 3623000820
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirCondiBasisUDS 002037
       ROD: EV_AirCondiBasisUDS_002.rod
       VCID: 230633BD2A224752E0-8076
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 4H0-907-063-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 4H0 907 063 BE    HW: 4H0 907 063 E
       Component: BCM1 2.0      H12 0100  
       Revision: 19012002    Serial number: 00000001251426
       Coding: 2600201040349FE00181008000001D0C0F9DC30A27090101000004602100
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       VCID: 6C9418818F7C482A11-8038
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4G2 955 119     HW: 4G8 955 119 A  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: WWS57X 110909  H35 0051 
       Serial number:         110922024832
       Coding: 0045F7
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 955 559     HW: 8K0 955 559   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
       Component: RLS  H04 0003 
       Serial number: 11721414            
       Coding: 02562B
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 4G0 941 531 E    HW: 4G0 941 531 E
       Component: E1 - LDS  H07 0044 
       Serial number: 12 10 2011  00000172
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:. 4H0-953-568.clb
       Part No SW: 4H0 953 568 E    HW: 4H0 953 568 E
       Component: Lenks.Modul   H03 0005  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 90372KJ7001VD 
       Coding: 000030
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       VCID: 3522FDE59CB6C9E23E-8060
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 4G0 951 528 E    HW: 4G0 951 528 E
       Component: E221 - MFL  H09 0009 
       Serial number: 29 08 2011  33123505
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:. 4H0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 4G8 920 950 G    HW: 4G8 920 950 G
       Component: MDieGb        H34 0119  
       Revision: 25450105    Serial number: 658131011593013
       Coding: 338600020B032600010100
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_RBC7KMID 004040
       ROD: EV_RBC7KMID.rod
       VCID: 3326C3FD9AC2D7D210-8066
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 4G0 907 468 E    HW: 4G0 907 468 A
       Component: J533--Gateway H08 0213  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 00000000275800
       Coding: 00CD077D00
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewUDS 001025
       ROD: EV_GatewUDS_AU57.rod
       VCID: 3228C6F965D8DEDA1B-8066
    
       Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8X0 915 181     HW: 8X0 915 181 
       Component: J367-BDM  H07 0140 
       Serial number: 00000000005650731333
    
       Voltage stabilizer: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 663     HW: 8K0 959 663 
       Component: J532_DCDCStab  H17 0042 
       Serial number: 11292003077021200181
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 30: Special Function II (J843)       Labels: 8K0-907-440.clb
       Part No SW: 4H0 907 440     HW: 4H0 907 440 
       Component: STS           H06 0030  
       Revision: S0H06000    Serial number: 00000000019853
       Coding: 01010101000000000001000203
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       VCID: 648470A167AC006A59-8030
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 3B: Sensor Elect. (J849)       Labels: 4G0-907-637.clb
       Part No SW: 4G0 907 637     HW: 4G0 907 637 
       Component: SARA 3D       H02 0004  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: EJ1BPA3200NK760
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SARA 006014
       ROD: EV_SARA_006.rod
       VCID: 6B961B9D82724F1218-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 4G0-909-144.clb
       Part No SW: 4G0 909 144 L    HW: 4G0 909 144 G
       Component: RCEPS         H35 0010  
       Revision: 00001000    Serial number: 0022174833
       Coding: 101000010000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_RCEPS 009008
       ROD: EV_RCEPS_009.rod
       VCID: 3228C6F965D8DEDA1B-8066
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels:. 4H0-907-064-46.clb
       Part No SW: 4H0 907 064 BN    HW: 4H0 907 064 BN
       Component: BCM2 2.0      H31 0333  
       Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0161122863    
       Coding: 013B062220B9BC0083200A04000100000000000000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       VCID: 76A03AE9C13082FAF7-8022
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4G0 951 177 
       Component: DWA-Sensor  H01 0010 
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 4G8 959 252     HW: 4G8 959 252 
       Component: HSP-SG  H09 0027 
       Serial number: WA103392000000593175
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake (----)       Labels: 4H0-907-801.clb
       Part No SW: 4H0 907 801 E    HW: 4H0 907 801 A
       Component: EPB-4         H03 0012  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 00000000155673
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ParkiBrake 001022
       ROD: EV_ParkiBrake_VW51.rod
       VCID: 2A18DE994D08961AA3-807E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 4G0 035 193 C    HW: 4G0 035 193 C
       Component: RMC Cnct Nav  H51 0717  
       Coding: 0101040001415947002B040301010000010001
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       VCID: 230633BD22224752E0-8076
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8X0 919 884 C
       Component: P11-50-10.06  1006 
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 4G0 919 603     HW: 4G0 919 603 
       Component: DU6 Basic  H42 0084 
       Serial number: 9464HY0B0061757     
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 4G2 919 610     HW: 4G2 919 610 
       Component: E380 BDT C7  H08 0203 
       Serial number: 90349KJC000G9       
    
    1 Fault Found:
    03405 - Bass Loudspeaker 
                011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101011
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 24
                        Mileage: 143042 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2019.01.31
                        Time: 13:18:07
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Voltage: 11.80 V
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left
    Cannot be reached
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6D: Trunk Elect. (----)       Labels:* Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 4G8 959 107 N    HW: 4G8 959 107 F
       Component: HDSG-Modul    H13 0039  
       Revision: 11013001    Serial number: 271100362
       Coding: 0A3305C002
       Shop #: WSC 02391 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_HDSGAu573 001014
       ROD: EV_HDSGAu571.rod
       VCID: 40CC9C31DB747C4A9D-8014
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right
    Cannot be reached
    
    End----(Elapsed Time: 01:20, VBatt start/end: 11.7V/11.7V. VIgn 0.1V)------
    Last edited by Uwe; 02-06-2019 at 05:20 PM.

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    Since it has the Kessy module integrated in it, I would have to say: No, the only way to replace that module is on-line.

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    I could do a data transfer by mail of used or new modules but you are far away.
    Take kessy apart and post pictures.
    Overlay test the D2 for coil & transponder to kessy directly.
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    I'm posting here in response to the email. I absolutely agree with the above advice and a new (unused) BCM2 module (AW 05 and 46) would need to matched online dealer style if faulty but rebooting it and inspecting for internal problems can't hurt.

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