VW POLO CWAB 1200 . Problems Regeneration particle Filter

kawagatto · Jan 31, 2019

Good evening. I have a problem with a VW polo 6r 1200 TDI CFWA. The DPF indicator with MIL indicator light and pre-heating indicator lights up and the fault is present in ECU: " 15513-duration of regeneration of diesel particulate filter "P2458 00 (191). There are no further failures in memory, and the temperature sensors function correctly as both hot and cold indicate all three of the same temperatures. I've already replaced the differential pressure sensor for safety. Analyzing the exhaust gas temperatures I realized that never fail to sweat the 400 degrees and even the engine temperature is struggling to get to 90 degrees. My diagnosis is a broken or permeable EGR valve that lets the exhaust gas pass into the suction by compromising the temperature rise of the exhaust gases. What do you think? Sorry the bad inglese....se there are errors is the fault of Google translate!!! Hello everyone thanks :rolleyes:

Uwe · Jan 31, 2019

Hi and welcome to our forum.

Please post an Auto-Scan for context.

-Uwe-

PS: Doesn't fit in General VW/Audi Repair; moving to New User section.

kawagatto · May 29, 2019

Good morning. I solved the problem and shared it with the forum. By checking the cold temperature values I realized that 2 temperature sensors indicated 8 ° Celsius and the temperature sensor downstream of the filter emitted 6 ° Celsius. So I started the regeneration and started the LOG. The temperature downstream of the filter has not reached 400 ° C, while the other two have reached 600 ° / 700 ° c. So I replaced the sensor downstream of the filter and then, repeating the regeneration, the temperature went over 500 and then when all three sensors had similar temperatures and in any case higher than 500 °, in less than 5 minutes the value of the CALCULATED PARTICULATE is down from 25g to 5 g and the regeneration is complete .. So summarizing ... THE VALUE OF THE CALCULATED PARTICULATE does not go down if the entire body of the filter does not exceed 400 ° c and only then does the ECU drop it 5 g , completing the regeneration. I attach an AUTO-SCAN and LOG file. I also want to help keep this forum active, which has been useful to me many times. Thanks for the many suggestions.
Hello! Excuse the bad English ... the fault of Google's translation !! ((((-:

kawagatto · May 29, 2019

Code:

Sabato,02,FEBBRAIO,2019,08:57:17:01532
VCDS -- Emulatore di VAG/VAS basato in Windows Esecuzione su Windows XP x86
Versione del VCDS: ITT 18.2.1.0
Versione di dati: 20180112 DS287.1
www.vag-com-italiano.com


VIN: WVWZZZ6RZCY143515   Matricola: 


Tipo di Telaio 6N0)
Centraline 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 44

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZCY143515   Chilometraggio: 139570km

01-Motore -- stato: Guasto 0010
03-Freni ABS -- stato: Corretto 0000
04-Angolo Sterzata -- stato: Corretto 0000
08-Climatizzatore -- stato: Corretto 0000
09-Centrale elettr. -- stato: Corretto 0000
15-Airbags -- stato: Corretto 0000
17-Cruscotto -- stato: Corretto 0000
19-Gateway CAN -- stato: Corretto 0000
25-Immobilizzatore -- stato: Corretto 0000
44-Servosterzo -- stato: Corretto 0000
 
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Indirizzo 01: Motore (J000-CFWA)       Etichette:. ITT\03P-906-021-CFW.clb
   N°. di Ricambio SW: 03P 906 021     HW: 03P 907 425 A
   Componente: R3 1.2l TDI   H07 9978  
   Versione: 11002001    N° di Serie:               
   Codifica: 00114014000400080000
   Nº Officina: WSC 15366 002 1048576
   Dati ASAM: EV_ECM12TDI03103P906021 001023
   ROD: EV_ECM12TDI03103P906021.rod
   VCID: 65C629B864643A6CB2-8030

1 Guasto/i riconosciuto/i:
15513 - Durata della rigenerazione del filtro antiparticolato di diesel 
          P2458 00 [191] - -
          Spia di Guasti accesa - confermato - Test non eseguiti dalla cancellazione della memoria guasti
             Dati congelati:
                    Stato dei Guasti: 00000001
                    Priorità dei Guasti: 2
                    Frequenza dei Guasti: 6
                    Chilometraggio: 139574 km
                    Data: 2019.02.02
                    Tempo: 00:24:02

                    RPM Motore: 824.00 /min
                    Valore di carico normalizzato: 18.4 %
                    Velocità del veicolo: 0 km/h
                    Temperatura del liquido di raffreddamento: 80 °C
                    Temperatura aria aspirata: 14 °C
                    Pressione aria ambiente: 1000 mbar
                    Tensione Morsetto 30: 13.734 V
                    Contatore di disapprendimento secondo OBD: 0
                    Regime albero a gomiti: 800 /min
                    Filtro antiparticolato: km percorsi da ultima rigenerazione: 0 km
                    Filtro antiparticolato: massa fuliggine calcolata: 14 g

Readiness: 1 1 0 0 1 

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Indirizzo 03: Freni ABS (J104)       Etichette:. ITT\6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
   N°. di Ricambio SW: 6R0 907 379 BC    HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
   Componente: ESP8.2i front H05 0002  
   Versione: --------    
   Codifica: 210224E3417100B5842A24E382D600421100
   Nº Officina: WSC 00788 648 00255
   VCID: 0008182C9706FF4421-8054

Nessun Guasto riconosciuto

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Indirizzo 08: Climatizzatore (J301)       Etichette: Nessuno/a/e/i
   N°. di Ricambio SW: 6R0 820 045 N    HW: 6R0 820 045 N
   Componente: Man AC        H02 0202  
   Versione: 0003SH02    
   VCID: 397EB5C8B05C6E8C26-806C

Nessun Guasto riconosciuto

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Indirizzo 09: Centrale elettr. (J519)       Etichette:. ITT\6R0-937-08x-09.clb
   N°. di Ricambio SW: 6R0 937 087 K    HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Componente: BCM PQ25 H+4  H46 0251  
   Versione: BF046001    N° di Serie: 0434 306110277
   Codifica: 24B02BBF08A10000003008006D2B0CD00000412F60860000200000000000
   Nº Officina: WSC 124697 483 00190
   VCID: 4586C938CCA41A6C52-8010

   Subsistema 1 - N°. di Ricambio SW: 6R0 959 801 AB    HW: 6R0 959 801 AB  Etichette: ITT\6R0-959-801.CLB
   Componente: J386__TSG_FT  008 1611 
   N° di Serie: KU0KU025101100015964
   Codifica: 18BC30

   Subsistema 2 - N°. di Ricambio SW: 6R0 959 802 AD    HW: 6R0 959 802 AD  Etichette: ITT\6R0-959-802.CLB
   Componente: J387__TSG_BT  008 1611 
   N° di Serie: KU0KU028101100010554
   Codifica: 08BC30

   Subsistema 3 - N°. di Ricambio SW: 6R0 959 811 G    HW: 6R0 959 811 G
   Componente: J388__TSG_HL  008 1611 
   N° di Serie: KU0KU030101100010181
   Codifica: 08BC32

   Subsistema 4 - N°. di Ricambio SW: 6R0 959 812 G    HW: 6R0 959 812 G
   Componente: J389__TSG_HR  008 1611 
   N° di Serie: KU0KU031101100014523
   Codifica: 08BC32

Nessun Guasto riconosciuto

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Indirizzo 15: Airbags (J234)       Etichette:| ITT\5K0-959-655.clb
   N°. di Ricambio SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
   Componente: VW10Airbag01M H09 0020  
   Versione: --------    N° di Serie: 003GX00ZSX2L
   Codifica: 00314D
   Nº Officina: WSC 00788 648 00255
   Dati ASAM: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_VW25.rod
   VCID: 4A9CFA04EDBAF514BF-801E

   Sensore d'impatto dell'airbag laterale anteriore lato guida: 
   N° di Serie: 3575HRB405D0U20Q7H4B

   Sensore impatto airbag laterale anteriore lato passeggero: 
   N° di Serie: 3585HRB405R0U20SC0U%

   Sensore d'impatto dell'airbag laterale posteriore lato guida: 
   N° di Serie: 3515RRB405L0TO4ME8QL

   Sensore d'impatto dell'airbag laterale post. lato passeggero: 
   N° di Serie: 3525RRB40530TO4OCOD7

Errore ROD interno:
EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_VW25.rod:XPL
Nessun Guasto riconosciuto

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Indirizzo 17: Cruscotto (J285)       Etichette:| ITT\5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   N°. di Ricambio SW: 6R0 920 861 H    HW: 6R0 920 861 H
   Componente: KOMBI         H04 0206  
   N° di Serie: 00000009551799
   Codifica: 140200
   Nº Officina: WSC 00788 648 00255
   Dati ASAM: EV_DashBoardUDSJCIPQ25 A01015
   ROD: EV_DashBoardUDSJCIPQ25_A01_VW25.rod
   VCID: 3A7CAAC4BD5A65942F-806E

Nessun Guasto riconosciuto

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Indirizzo 19: Gateway CAN (J533)       Etichette:. ITT\6N0-909-901-6R.clb
   N°. di Ricambio SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 6R0 937 087 
   Componente: GW-K-CAN TP20 H46 0251  
   Versione: BF046001    
   Codifica: 002200
   Nº Officina: WSC 124697 483 00190
   VCID: 70E848ECA3A6EFC4D1-8024

Nessun Guasto riconosciuto

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Indirizzo 25: Immobilizzatore (J285)       Etichette:. ITT\5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   N°. di Ricambio SW: 6R0 920 861 H    HW: 6R0 920 861 H
   Componente: IMMO          H04 0014  
   N° di Serie:               
   Dati ASAM: EV_ImmobUDSJCIPQ25 A01001
   ROD: EV_ImmobUDSJCIPQ25.rod
   VCID: 3A7CAAC4BD5A65942F-806E

Nessun Guasto riconosciuto

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Indirizzo 44: Servosterzo        Etichette: ITT\6Q0-423-156.clb
   N°. di Ricambio: 6R0 423 156 B
   Componente: LenkhilfeTRW        V277  
   Codifica: 11230
   Nº Officina: WSC 00788  
   VCID: 2F6A8B90EA18B03C88-807A

Nessun Guasto riconosciuto

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kawagatto · May 29, 2019

iichel · May 29, 2019

It would be nice if you could install the English version of VCDS. You can have it beside your Italian version.

It's not uncommon for the G450 sensor to fail. This is the DPF differential pressure sensor. It's located on a bracket on your fuel filter.
Perhaps you can have a look at it. Otherwise, your particle filter might have failed but i think it's a bit early after 140k km.

kawagatto · May 29, 2019

iichel said:
It would be nice if you could install the English version of VCDS. You can have it beside your Italian version.

It's not uncommon for the G450 sensor to fail. This is the DPF differential pressure sensor. It's located on a bracket on your fuel filter.
Perhaps you can have a look at it. Otherwise, your particle filter might have failed but i think it's a bit early after 140k km.

Good morning. I solved the problem and shared it with the forum. By checking the cold temperature values I realized that 2 temperature sensors indicated 8 ° Celsius and the temperature sensor downstream of the filter emitted 6 ° Celsius. So I started the regeneration and started the LOG. The temperature downstream of the filter has not reached 400 ° C, while the other two have reached 600 ° / 700 ° c. So I replaced the sensor downstream of the filter and then, repeating the regeneration, the temperature went over 500 and then when all three sensors had similar temperatures and in any case higher than 500 °, in less than 5 minutes the value of the CALCULATED PARTICULATE is down from 25g to 5 g and the regeneration is complete .. So summarizing ... THE VALUE OF THE CALCULATED PARTICULATE does not go down if the entire body of the filter does not exceed 400 ° c and only then does the ECU drop it 5 g , completing the regeneration. I attach an AUTO-SCAN and LOG file. I also want to help keep this forum active, which has been useful to me many times. Thanks for the many suggestions.
Hello! Excuse the bad English ... the fault of Google's translation !! ((((-:

VW POLO CWAB 1200 . Problems Regeneration particle Filter

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