VW Eos 2007 -- Airbag module defective. Questions abound. Help pls!

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Hello RossTechies!

I beg you for some insight and advice! I have a 2007 VW Eos and I suddenly got an airbag light that can’t be cleared. The car has not been in an accident. This appears to be a random failure. The fault code is:
00003 - Control Module
014 - Defective - MIL ON
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Apparently the module is toast. I called the VW dealer in Austin, Tx and they said there is no airbag module available for this VIN in US or Canada. He said it could be a year or more before a replacement is found or manufactured. I would have to pay $600 in advance and later a few hundred more for coding. Not cool.

As I understand these modules have a Part Number but also a hidden index number (aka color code) with about a hundred variations. Thus, finding a used one with the right part number isn’t sufficient; it also must have the right index number. I read somewhere that this index number is written on the box when you buy a new module from the dealer. I also read on forums that a new or used airbag module must also be VIN coded by the dealer. I have a few questions and I really appreciate your thoughts::popcorn:

1. Given a new module isn’t available, if I buy a used module on Ebay and the index code doesn’t match the one on my module, but it did come off of another 2007 Eos is there any way to make it work on my car?
2. My part number is 1Q0-959-655-A, but what is my index code? :confused: Autoscan attached.
3. Can the index code be changed by a dealer or third party or is it tied to the hardware in permanent way?
4. Is VIN coding the same as setting the index code, or are these completely separate things?
5. Can VIN coding be performed in VCDS? Is it through the adaptation option?
6. When I search VWPartsCenter.net there are a bunch of part numbers that supposedly replaced my part number 1Q0-959-655-A. Is that right? Will these replacements actually work? See screenshot below.

Thank you all so so much for any assistance! :thumbs:

Note: The driver's side igniter fault occasionally comes on calling out a resistance is too high. I would erase it and go on until it greeted me again. I know about the connector under the seat, but that's already been removed. It hadn't come on in a few months and then all of a sudden I got the hole module defective hard fault.


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VIN: WVWAA71F97V018698   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 1F (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 1C 25 26 42 44 46 52 56 62 63  
65
          72

VIN: WVWAA71F97V018698   Mileage: 131980km-82008miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
26-Auto Roof -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
63-Entry Assist,D -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
---------------------------------------------------------------- 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels:. 06F-907-115-AXX.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 907 115 E    HW: 1Q0 907 115 B
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0020  
   Revision: 5BH15---    Serial number: VWX7Z0F83NT8EB
   Coding: 041C010A18070160
   Shop #: WSC 03164 444 80806
   VCID: 2E7DE498B9895534BA-807A

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC    HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101  
   Revision: 00H11001    
   Coding: 0021218
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
   VCID: 73CB35EC122B38DC15-8026

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Q0 907 044 A    HW: 1Q0 907 044 A
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 093 0101  
   Revision: 00093002    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2B7BED8C8A9B201C9D-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 Q    HW: 3C0 937 049 Q
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H46 1501  
   Revision: 00H46000    Serial number: 00000006127809
   Coding: 158C8F0340041500470000000F00000000285D035C0000
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
   VCID: 3753C1FC46D394FCE9-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 031006 020  0501  
   Coding: 00038805
   Shop #: WSC 00020  

No fault code found.

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Address 0F: Digital Radio
Cannot be reached

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1Q0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 655 A    HW: 1Q0 959 655 A
   Component: 13 Airbag VW8C      0180  
   Revision: 92009018    Serial number: 003B3000YEXC  
   Coding: 0012595
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
   VCID: 3A55D8C875C1899416-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1Q0 959 339 A
   Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 007 0003

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 3EW5L         

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0001.01.000000700000000000ÿ† 63

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 000000ÿ† 6332SRB403CC8BA3Eÿ† 63

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: C8BA3Eÿ† 6342SRB403CDC6204ÿ† 63

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: DC6204ÿ† 6372URB4017D453C6ÿ† 63

   Subsystem 7 - Serial number: D453C6ÿ† 6382URB4017D4041Zÿ

   Subsystem 8 - Serial number: D4041Zÿ

3 Faults Found:
00003 - Control Module 
            014 - Defective - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11101110
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 21
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 131743 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 06:48:28

01217 - Side Airbag Igniter; Driver Side (N199) 
            001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11100001
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 8
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 131849 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:16:12

01218 - Side Airbag Igniter; Passenger Side (N200) 
            001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 10100001
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 131870 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:55:25


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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AR    HW: 1K0 953 549 AR
   Component: J0527           036 0070  
   Coding: 0000041
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
   VCID: 022560285D9101540E-8056

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Q0 920 973 BX    HW: 1Q0 920 973 BX
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1610  
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWX7Z0F83NT8EB
   Coding: 0023207
   Shop #: WSC 47865 001 1048576
   VCID: 0A35480865A1591446-805E

1 Fault Found:
00003 - Control Module 
            014 - Defective
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101110
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 127713 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 11:57:07


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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 H    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533__Gateway   H12 0150  
   Revision:   H12       Serial number: 310010691780DF
   Coding: 3DBF23600F025000
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
   VCID: 2C79EE908F95272494-8078

2 Faults Found:
00469 - Infotainment Databus in Single Wire Operation 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 50
                    Mileage: 127713 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 14:44:44

02649 - Digital Radio Tuner 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 50
                    Mileage: 127713 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 14:44:48


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Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Q0 919 965     HW: 1Q0 919 965 
   Component: Kompass         002 0001  
   Revision: 00002000    Serial number: 1350208TK4FS02
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
   VCID: 79D707C43047428C5F-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 920 973 BX    HW: 1Q0 920 973 BX
   Component: IMMO            VDD 1610  
   Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWX7Z0F83NT8EB
   Shop #: WSC 47865 001 1048576
   VCID: 0A35480865A1591446-805E

No fault code found.

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Address 26: Auto Roof        Labels: 1Q0-959-255.clb
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 255 B    HW: 1Q0 959 255 B
   Component: Verdecksteuergeraet 0622  
   Revision: 0032000K    Serial number: 062630578     
   Coding: 0655360
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
   VCID: 3753C1FC46D394FCE9-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701- 
MAX2.lbl
   Part No: 1Q0 959 701 B
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2729  
   Coding: 0001207
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
   VCID: 334BF5EC52AB78DCD5-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 L
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.070 H07 1806  
   Shop #: WSC 47865 001 1048576
   VCID: 3449F6F057A57FE4CC-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CL
   Component:    KSG PQ35 RDK 051 0218  
   Revision: 00051000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 93908A800186281B0804040FB0080E04889C00
   Shop #: WSC 01814 444 59532
   VCID: 0429663047850F643C-8050

   Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     

1 Fault Found:
00849 - S-contact at Ignition/Starter Switch (D) 
            008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 191
                    Mileage: 131683 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:55:39


---------------------------------------------------------------- 
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702- 
MAX2.lbl
   Part No: 1Q0 959 702 B
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2729  
   Coding: 0001206
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
   VCID: 3449F6F057A57FE4CC-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 G    HW: 1K0 035 180 G
   Component: Radio PM6       017 0037  
   Revision: 00017000    Serial number: VWZ5Z7G2142892
   Coding: 0040401
   Shop #: WSC 39612 828 149130
   VCID: 246906B0E745EF645C-8070

1 Fault Found:
02218 - Satellite Radio (R146) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01110100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 124
                    Mileage: 129077 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:00:40


---------------------------------------------------------------- 
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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1Q0 959 703 
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2705  
   Coding: 0000128
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
   VCID: 73CB35EC122B38DC15-8026

No fault code found.

---------------------------------------------------------------- 
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Address 63: Entry Assist,D        Labels: 1Q0-959-790.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 790 A    HW: 1Q0 959 790 A
   Component: J572  EASYENTRY FS  0603  
   Revision: 00H02000    Serial number: 5DS008646-01--
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
   VCID: 3A55D8C875C1899416-806E

No fault code found.

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Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 3C0-959-433-65.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CL
   Component:    RDK              0440  
   Revision: 00051000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 0100101
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
   VCID: 0429663047850F643C-8050

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right
Cannot be reached

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1) Not terribly practical. For a different index, you'd have to replace other airbag system components to match your new index.
2) Your index is 013
3) Neither the dealers' tool nor VCDS can change the index.
4) I do not think there is any VIN coding needed on this car.
5) See 4.
6) I see no screenshot anywhere.

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PS: Moving this to Car Repair Support
 
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1. Just curious, how did you determine the index code?
Sure it does. You just have to know where to look for it:

Code:
Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1Q0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 655 A    HW: 1Q0 959 655 A
   Component: 13 Airbag VW8C      0180  
   Revision: 92009018    Serial number: 003B3000YEXC  
   Coding: 0012595
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
   VCID: 3A55D8C875C1899416-806E

Note that it will generally not appear there in a brand-new module until after it has been coded.

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PS: What's with the side airbag faults on both sides? :confused:

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Hey Uwe,

Two follow-up questions:

1. Please comment on the part number (1Q0-959-655-B-01B) as a replacement for (1Q0-959-655-A-013) in the above link from vwpartscenter.net? Does it make sense that there would be a different replacement part number for an airbag control module? Have you seen this before? Will it work with the other airbag components?

https://cdn1.imggmi.com/uploads/2019...0a624-full.jpg
https://www.vwpartscenter.net/?year=...&search_in=all

2. Specify what kind of coding you refer to in your reply "Note that it will generally not appear there in a brand-new module until after it has been coded"? You previously said that no VIN coding was needed, so what kind of coding *is* needed? I'm looking for the type or name of the coding so I can then search for how to do it.

Many thanks again for sharing your knowledge.
 
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I was hoping that this was caused by the failing control module. :confused: These codes have come up every few months from time to time. It's a well known fault that's often associated with the wiring harness connector under the seat. VW had a tech bulletin on this and the dealer would cut out the original connector and put in butt connectors. This was already done on this car, so I'm not sure why this is happening.
 
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1. Please comment on the part number (1Q0-959-655-B-01B) as a replacement for (1Q0-959-655-A-013) in the above link from vwpartscenter.net? Does it make sense that there would be a different replacement part number for an airbag control module? Have you seen this before? Will it work with the other airbag components?
I don't know whether that's correct or not. I don't personally have access to an official parts catalog.

It is not terribly unusual for control module part numbers to get superseded. Sometimes they're fully compatible, but we've also seen cases where the replacements are not compatible with other stuff in the car and require upgrading of other components as well. With airbag modules, it has often been side crash sensors, and with front door control modules, the rears sometimes need to get upgraded when the fronts are replaced.

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2. Specify what kind of coding you refer to in your reply "Note that it will generally not appear there in a brand-new module until after it has been coded"? You previously said that no VIN coding was needed, so what kind of coding *is* needed? I'm looking for the type or name of the coding so I can then search for how to do it.

Just this:

Code:
Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1Q0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 1Q0 959 655 A    HW: 1Q0 959 655 A
   Component: 13 Airbag VW8C      0180  
   Revision: 92009018    Serial number: 003B3000YEXC  
   Coding: 0012595
   Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
   VCID: 3A55D8C875C1899416-806E

You may find this article in our Wiki helpful:
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Airbag_Coding

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Do you think the side airbag faults could be or could have been related to the failed control module? Likely or unlikely?
 
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Do you think the side airbag faults could be or could have been related to the failed control module? Likely or unlikely?
I have no real opinion.

As those faults are not flagged "Intermittent", if it were mine, I would investigate them. MBV 005..

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If I connect an airbag module with the different index/color code and replace the side crash sensors with new ones that are compatible with the new module, will I then be able to code it and be on my merry way? Or do I absolutely have to match the original index/color code?
The index determines far more than just the side crash sensors. It also determines type and number of airbags various other configuration data for the SRS system. So getting a module with some arbitrary index is a bad idea because you won't know what other components are required to match it. The TSB you're referencing above was about two indexes that were compatible in every way except for the side crash sensors. Unfortunately, I'm not aware of any any documentation for cross-compatibility of various components. Thus I can only recommend installing the proper replacement, which would include any factory superseded part. If there's a compatibility problem with a factory superseded part, there will be documentation what else needs to be replaced.

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1. Please comment on the part number (1Q0-959-655-B-01B) as a replacement for (1Q0-959-655-A-013) in the above link from vwpartscenter.net?
1Q0 959 655 A 013 => 1Q0 959 655 A 074 => 1Q0 959 655 B 01B but better call dealer and confirm.
 
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Thanks Val. The dealer is clueless. They told me there were no parts available and one may have to be "made" for me. They never even mentioned replacement part numbers. I got that from VWPartsCenter.net.
 
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I just want to thank everyone (Uwe!! and Val) for their replies! It's been very helpful and encouraging to better understand the SRS airbag system. Without this forum I would have certainly bought a used part and failed to get it working, leading not only to frustration but also lost time and money. Thank you all for the good work you do and for the invaluable tools and platforms that you have created and continue to tirelessly curate. I admire the patience and commitment you show to those of us DIY drivers and wannabe auto-mechanics/techs. THANK YOU!
 
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