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    VW Eos 2007 -- Airbag module defective. Questions abound. Help pls!

    Hello RossTechies!

    I beg you for some insight and advice! I have a 2007 VW Eos and I suddenly got an airbag light that can’t be cleared. The car has not been in an accident. This appears to be a random failure. The fault code is:
    00003 - Control Module
    014 - Defective - MIL ON


    Apparently the module is toast. I called the VW dealer in Austin, Tx and they said there is no airbag module available for this VIN in US or Canada. He said it could be a year or more before a replacement is found or manufactured. I would have to pay $600 in advance and later a few hundred more for coding. Not cool.

    As I understand these modules have a Part Number but also a hidden index number (aka color code) with about a hundred variations. Thus, finding a used one with the right part number isn’t sufficient; it also must have the right index number. I read somewhere that this index number is written on the box when you buy a new module from the dealer. I also read on forums that a new or used airbag module must also be VIN coded by the dealer. I have a few questions and I really appreciate your thoughts:

    1. Given a new module isn’t available, if I buy a used module on Ebay and the index code doesn’t match the one on my module, but it did come off of another 2007 Eos is there any way to make it work on my car?
    2. My part number is 1Q0-959-655-A, but what is my index code? Autoscan attached.
    3. Can the index code be changed by a dealer or third party or is it tied to the hardware in permanent way?
    4. Is VIN coding the same as setting the index code, or are these completely separate things?
    5. Can VIN coding be performed in VCDS? Is it through the adaptation option?
    6. When I search VWPartsCenter.net there are a bunch of part numbers that supposedly replaced my part number 1Q0-959-655-A. Is that right? Will these replacements actually work? See screenshot below.

    Thank you all so so much for any assistance!

    Note: The driver's side igniter fault occasionally comes on calling out a resistance is too high. I would erase it and go on until it greeted me again. I know about the connector under the seat, but that's already been removed. It hadn't come on in a few months and then all of a sudden I got the hole module defective hard fault.


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    Tuesday,29,January,2019,21:59:04:40464
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    VCDS Version: 18.2.0.3 (x64)
    Data version: 20180212 DS287.0
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    VIN: WVWAA71F97V018698   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 1F (1K0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 0F 15 16 17 19 1C 25 26 42 44 46 52 56 62 63  
    65
              72
    
    VIN: WVWAA71F97V018698   Mileage: 131980km-82008miles
    
    00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    0F-Digital Radio -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
    15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    26-Auto Roof -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    63-Entry Assist,D -- Status: OK 0000
    65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
     
    ---------------------------------------------------------------- 
    ---------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels:. 06F-907-115-AXX.clb
       Part No SW: 1Q0 907 115 E    HW: 1Q0 907 115 B
       Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0020  
       Revision: 5BH15---    Serial number: VWX7Z0F83NT8EB
       Coding: 041C010A18070160
       Shop #: WSC 03164 444 80806
       VCID: 2E7DE498B9895534BA-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------- 
    ---------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC    HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
       Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0101  
       Revision: 00H11001    
       Coding: 0021218
       Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
       VCID: 73CB35EC122B38DC15-8026
    
    No fault code found.
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------- 
    ---------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
       Part No SW: 1Q0 907 044 A    HW: 1Q0 907 044 A
       Component: ClimatronicPQ35 093 0101  
       Revision: 00093002    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2B7BED8C8A9B201C9D-807E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------- 
    ---------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
       Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 Q    HW: 3C0 937 049 Q
       Component: Bordnetz-SG     H46 1501  
       Revision: 00H46000    Serial number: 00000006127809
       Coding: 158C8F0340041500470000000F00000000285D035C0000
       Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
       VCID: 3753C1FC46D394FCE9-8062
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 031006 020  0501  
       Coding: 00038805
       Shop #: WSC 00020  
    
    No fault code found.
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------- 
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    Address 0F: Digital Radio
    Cannot be reached
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------- 
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    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1Q0-959-655.lbl
       Part No SW: 1Q0 959 655 A    HW: 1Q0 959 655 A
       Component: 13 Airbag VW8C      0180  
       Revision: 92009018    Serial number: 003B3000YEXC  
       Coding: 0012595
       Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
       VCID: 3A55D8C875C1899416-806E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1Q0 959 339 A
       Component: BF-Gewichtsens. 007 0003
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 3EW5L         
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0001.01.000000700000000000† 63
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 000000† 6332SRB403CC8BA3E† 63
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: C8BA3E† 6342SRB403CDC6204† 63
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: DC6204† 6372URB4017D453C6† 63
    
       Subsystem 7 - Serial number: D453C6† 6382URB4017D4041Z
    
       Subsystem 8 - Serial number: D4041Z
    
    3 Faults Found:
    00003 - Control Module 
                014 - Defective - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11101110
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 21
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 131743 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 06:48:28
    
    01217 - Side Airbag Igniter; Driver Side (N199) 
                001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11100001
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 8
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 131849 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:16:12
    
    01218 - Side Airbag Igniter; Passenger Side (N200) 
                001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 10100001
                        Fault Priority: 1
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 131870 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:55:25
    
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------- 
    ---------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AR    HW: 1K0 953 549 AR
       Component: J0527           036 0070  
       Coding: 0000041
       Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
       VCID: 022560285D9101540E-8056
    
    No fault code found.
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------- 
    ---------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No SW: 1Q0 920 973 BX    HW: 1Q0 920 973 BX
       Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1610  
       Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWX7Z0F83NT8EB
       Coding: 0023207
       Shop #: WSC 47865 001 1048576
       VCID: 0A35480865A1591446-805E
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00003 - Control Module 
                014 - Defective
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101110
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 127713 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 11:57:07
    
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------- 
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    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 1K0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 H    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: J533__Gateway   H12 0150  
       Revision:   H12       Serial number: 310010691780DF
       Coding: 3DBF23600F025000
       Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
       VCID: 2C79EE908F95272494-8078
    
    2 Faults Found:
    00469 - Infotainment Databus in Single Wire Operation 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01101100
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 50
                        Mileage: 127713 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 14:44:44
    
    02649 - Digital Radio Tuner 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 50
                        Mileage: 127713 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 14:44:48
    
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------- 
    ---------------
    Address 1C: Position Sensing        Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
       Part No SW: 1Q0 919 965     HW: 1Q0 919 965 
       Component: Kompass         002 0001  
       Revision: 00002000    Serial number: 1350208TK4FS02
       Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
       VCID: 79D707C43047428C5F-802C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------- 
    ---------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 1Q0 920 973 BX    HW: 1Q0 920 973 BX
       Component: IMMO            VDD 1610  
       Revision: V0003000    Serial number: VWX7Z0F83NT8EB
       Shop #: WSC 47865 001 1048576
       VCID: 0A35480865A1591446-805E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------- 
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    Address 26: Auto Roof        Labels: 1Q0-959-255.clb
       Part No SW: 1Q0 959 255 B    HW: 1Q0 959 255 B
       Component: Verdecksteuergeraet 0622  
       Revision: 0032000K    Serial number: 062630578     
       Coding: 0655360
       Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
       VCID: 3753C1FC46D394FCE9-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------- 
    ---------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701- 
    MAX2.lbl
       Part No: 1Q0 959 701 B
       Component: Tuer-SG         024 2729  
       Coding: 0001207
       Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
       VCID: 334BF5EC52AB78DCD5-8066
    
    No fault code found.
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------- 
    ---------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-144-G2V3.clb
       Part No: 1K1 909 144 L
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.070 H07 1806  
       Shop #: WSC 47865 001 1048576
       VCID: 3449F6F057A57FE4CC-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------- 
    ---------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CL
       Component:    KSG PQ35 RDK 051 0218  
       Revision: 00051000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 93908A800186281B0804040FB0080E04889C00
       Shop #: WSC 01814 444 59532
       VCID: 0429663047850F643C-8050
    
       Subsystem 1 - Component:   Sounder n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 2 - Component:       NGS n.mounted     
    
       Subsystem 3 - Component:      IRUE n.mounted     
    
    1 Fault Found:
    00849 - S-contact at Ignition/Starter Switch (D) 
                008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101000
                        Fault Priority: 4
                        Fault Frequency: 3
                        Reset counter: 191
                        Mileage: 131683 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:55:39
    
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------- 
    ---------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702- 
    MAX2.lbl
       Part No: 1Q0 959 702 B
       Component: Tuer-SG         024 2729  
       Coding: 0001206
       Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
       VCID: 3449F6F057A57FE4CC-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------- 
    ---------------
    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 G    HW: 1K0 035 180 G
       Component: Radio PM6       017 0037  
       Revision: 00017000    Serial number: VWZ5Z7G2142892
       Coding: 0040401
       Shop #: WSC 39612 828 149130
       VCID: 246906B0E745EF645C-8070
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02218 - Satellite Radio (R146) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01110100
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 124
                        Mileage: 129077 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2000.00.00
                        Time: 00:00:40
    
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------- 
    ---------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
       Part No: 1Q0 959 703 
       Component: Tuer-SG         021 2705  
       Coding: 0000128
       Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
       VCID: 73CB35EC122B38DC15-8026
    
    No fault code found.
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------- 
    ---------------
    Address 63: Entry Assist,D        Labels: 1Q0-959-790.lbl
       Part No SW: 1Q0 959 790 A    HW: 1Q0 959 790 A
       Component: J572  EASYENTRY FS  0603  
       Revision: 00H02000    Serial number: 5DS008646-01--
       Coding: 0000002
       Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
       VCID: 3A55D8C875C1899416-806E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------- 
    ---------------
    Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 3C0-959-433-65.lbl
       Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 CT    HW: 1K0 959 433 CL
       Component:    RDK              0440  
       Revision: 00051000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0100101
       Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
       VCID: 0429663047850F643C-8050
    
    No fault code found.
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------- 
    ---------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right
    Cannot be reached
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:24)--------------------------
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    1) Not terribly practical. For a different index, you'd have to replace other airbag system components to match your new index.
    2) Your index is 013
    3) Neither the dealers' tool nor VCDS can change the index.
    4) I do not think there is any VIN coding needed on this car.
    5) See 4.
    6) I see no screenshot anywhere.

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    Thanks Uwe. That's very helpful and I very much appreciate your responses.

    1. Just curious, how did you determine the index code?
    That code doesn't appear in the auto-scan readout.

    With the index code I found this part number that claims to replace my part number and index. It appears to be my best bet.
    https://cdn1.imggmi.com/uploads/2019...0a624-full.jpg

    https://www.vwpartscenter.net/?year=...&search_in=all

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenovo View Post
    1. Just curious, how did you determine the index code?
    Sure it does. You just have to know where to look for it:

    Code:
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1Q0-959-655.lbl
       Part No SW: 1Q0 959 655 A    HW: 1Q0 959 655 A
       Component: 13 Airbag VW8C      0180  
       Revision: 92009018    Serial number: 003B3000YEXC  
       Coding: 0012595
       Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
       VCID: 3A55D8C875C1899416-806E
    Note that it will generally not appear there in a brand-new module until after it has been coded.

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    PS: What's with the side airbag faults on both sides?

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    Hey Uwe,

    Two follow-up questions:

    1. Please comment on the part number (1Q0-959-655-B-01B) as a replacement for (1Q0-959-655-A-013) in the above link from vwpartscenter.net? Does it make sense that there would be a different replacement part number for an airbag control module? Have you seen this before? Will it work with the other airbag components?

    https://cdn1.imggmi.com/uploads/2019...0a624-full.jpg
    https://www.vwpartscenter.net/?year=...&search_in=all

    2. Specify what kind of coding you refer to in your reply "Note that it will generally not appear there in a brand-new module until after it has been coded"? You previously said that no VIN coding was needed, so what kind of coding *is* needed? I'm looking for the type or name of the coding so I can then search for how to do it.

    Many thanks again for sharing your knowledge.

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    I was hoping that this was caused by the failing control module. These codes have come up every few months from time to time. It's a well known fault that's often associated with the wiring harness connector under the seat. VW had a tech bulletin on this and the dealer would cut out the original connector and put in butt connectors. This was already done on this car, so I'm not sure why this is happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenovo View Post
    1. Please comment on the part number (1Q0-959-655-B-01B) as a replacement for (1Q0-959-655-A-013) in the above link from vwpartscenter.net? Does it make sense that there would be a different replacement part number for an airbag control module? Have you seen this before? Will it work with the other airbag components?
    I don't know whether that's correct or not. I don't personally have access to an official parts catalog.

    It is not terribly unusual for control module part numbers to get superseded. Sometimes they're fully compatible, but we've also seen cases where the replacements are not compatible with other stuff in the car and require upgrading of other components as well. With airbag modules, it has often been side crash sensors, and with front door control modules, the rears sometimes need to get upgraded when the fronts are replaced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenovo View Post
    2. Specify what kind of coding you refer to in your reply "Note that it will generally not appear there in a brand-new module until after it has been coded"? You previously said that no VIN coding was needed, so what kind of coding *is* needed? I'm looking for the type or name of the coding so I can then search for how to do it.
    Just this:

    Code:
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1Q0-959-655.lbl
       Part No SW: 1Q0 959 655 A    HW: 1Q0 959 655 A
       Component: 13 Airbag VW8C      0180  
       Revision: 92009018    Serial number: 003B3000YEXC  
       Coding: 0012595
       Shop #: WSC 00020 000 00000
       VCID: 3A55D8C875C1899416-806E
    You may find this article in our Wiki helpful:
    http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Airbag_Coding

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    Do you think the side airbag faults could be or could have been related to the failed control module? Likely or unlikely?

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