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    VIN registration popup in K line module

    Hello,
    just wired another test subject with random Audi A6 C6 engine ECU (CAN) + Audi A6 C5 central locks (K2).
    Now I can't open basic settings/output tests because it asks to register "wrong VIN number" while I'm in A6 C5 Central locks if I opened engine ECU in the same vcds session before Central locks. Is it intended? Maybe before vin popup there could be a "IF" is module connected through CAN or K.

    Obviously, if I disconnect engine ECU, it doesn't offer VIN registration while in Central locks or not open engine ecu in the same session.
    Yes, I know, not standart car. Just wanted to check is this cable working.

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    Sunday,27,January,2019,12:41:34:44445
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4451.4
    Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
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    VIN: WAUZZZ4F46N0xxxxx   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 4F (00 - TESTBOX CAN-K2)
    Scan: 01 35
     
    VIN: WAUZZZ4F46N0xxxxx   
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (BDW)       Labels:. 06E-910-552-BDW.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 552 R    HW: 4F0 907 552 D
       Component: 2.4l V6 MPI         0010  
       Revision: --H17---    Serial number:               
       Coding: 010D0003181F0D18
       Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
       VCID: 323D184AC825B847589-8066
    
    10 Faults Found:
    005155 - Secondary Air Injection System; Bank 1 
                   P1423 - 006 - Insufficient Flow - MIL ON
    000370 - Fuel Trim; Bank 1 
                   P0172 - 007 - System Too Rich - Intermittent
    004391 - Fuel Trim; Bank 1 (Mult) 
                   P1127 - 008 - System too Rich - MIL ON
    001056 - Catalyst System; Bank 1 
                   P0420 - 006 - Efficiency Below Threshold - MIL ON
    000291 - Throttle Position Sensor (G69) 
                   P0123 - 006 - Signal too High
    000546 - Angle Sensor 2 for Throttle (G188) 
                   P0222 - 007 - Signal Too Low
    001671 - ECM Power Relay Control Circuit 
                   P0687 - 007 - Short to Plus
    008482 - Accelerator Position Sensor (G79) 
                   P2122 - 007 - Signal too Low
    008487 - Accelerator Position Sensor 2 (G185) 
                   P2127 - 007 - Signal too Low
    004438 - Manifold Pressure Sensor (G71) 
                   P1156 - 007 - Open/Short to Ground
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 35: Centr. Locks        Labels:. 4B0-962-258.lbl
       Part No: 4B0 962 258 D
       Component: Zentralverriegelung D35  
       Coding: 07745
       Shop #: WSC 12345  
       VCID: 2A0D002AE5D5F087E09-4F2E
    
    10 Faults Found:
    01366 - Opened Due to Crash Signal 
                35-00 -  - 
    00955 - Key 1 
                09-10 - Adaptation Limit Surpassed - Intermittent
    01559 - Drivers Door 
                58-10 - Can't Lock - Intermittent
    01560 - Passenger Door 
                59-00 - Can't Unlock
    01561 - Rear left door 
                59-10 - Can't Unlock - Intermittent
    01562 - Rear right door 
                59-00 - Can't Unlock
    01562 - Rear right door 
                60-10 - Won't Safe - Intermittent
    01560 - Passenger Door 
                61-00 - Won't De-Safe
    01561 - Rear left door 
                61-00 - Won't De-Safe
    01562 - Rear right door 
                61-00 - Won't De-Safe
    
    End-(Elapsed Time: 00:16, VBatt start/end: 12.0V/12.0V. VIgn 0.0V, udsna)--
    Last edited by _Val; 01-27-2019 at 05:54 AM.

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    Sounds like it's working as designed. The idea is not whether it's CAN or K, it's whether the car knows its VIN. You could even get a popup on a completely K-line car once VCDS has figured out its VIN through the engine or cluster.
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    Thanks for clarifying, I thought it's for every control module individually.
    Got one K-line engine ECU with VIN number in Extra field, but VCDS doesn't understand it's a VIN number.

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    Now I had similar situation with real car:

    A4 B5 MY2000. Engine is K line, no VIN code in it.
    A6 C5 ~MY2004 Instrument cluster (retrofitted, all functions work, no problem, some soldering required to make door indicators work) is K line with a A6 C5 VIN code stored in it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    What functions are not VIN-Restricted?
    A VIN-Limited interface can do Auto-Scans, Clear DTCs, and look at Measuring Values on an unlimited number of cars. [..] In addition, you can make channel maps on an unlimited number of cars because sending us those maps helps us improve the product.
    I wanted to create channel map for 01 Engine (Applications - Controller Channel Map - Both options checked, Output: Pre-Label file) and while VCDS was creating Adaptations, VIN registering popup showed up when Adaptation channel 010 was opened and then map creation process ended. Last lines in channel map file were about A09. Restarting vcds.exe didn't help, but should have tried to replug cable... that would help which I didn't do in the first place.

    VIN popup could check if vcds is currently creating channel map or not.

    So, I erased wrong VIN codes out of cluster's dump and made complete adaptation channel map from A01 to A99.
    Could have saved myself 1 hour if Channel Maps were truly vin unlimited.
    Map files and autoscan sent to support@RT email.

    Thanks for reading.
    Last edited by _Val; 01-28-2019 at 04:37 PM.

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    That, on the other hand, sounds like a bug. I will try to gather the necessary control modules to reproduce it, because I haven't seen it happen with recent (UDS) cars.
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    Fixed in source. It was affecting only the non-UDS adaptation dialog, and as far as I can tell, had been present ever since new generation interfaces were supported. Thanks for reporting the issue!
    You ain't metal till you got a clutch pedal

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