Audi MMI Rebooting

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Rob55

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Hi guys

My brother's 2011 Audi A4 has an intermittent problem, the MMI goes blank and then reboots. On a 2 hour journey this might happen half a dozen times. He can't pinpoint any specific occasion when it happens, sometimes during a call, sometimes not, doesn't seem to correlate with any one thing. Once it reboots it just goes back to where it was before it went blank.

Today I ran a scan on VCDS and couldn't find any related faults.

Any ideas? Considering replacing the MMI module in the boot which is 4G0 035 056. But before we do this, I wanted to see if anyone on here could advise differently?

Cheers

Rob

Code:
Saturday,26,January,2019,16:33:23:07979
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64)
Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WAUZZZ8K0BA124285   License Plate: SNZ2143
Mileage: 137920km-85699mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 8K-AU48 (8T0)
Scan: 01 03 05 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 42 46 52 53 55 56 5F 62 72

VIN: WAUZZZ8K0BA124285   Mileage: 137920km-85699miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CAHA)       Labels:. 03L-906-019-CAG.clb
   Part No SW: 03L 906 022 NP    HW: 03L 906 019 AL
   Component: R4 2.0l TDI   H32 9978  
   Revision: 25H32---    
   Coding: 12194012232503080000
   Shop #: WSC 63180 002 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI03L906022NP A02012
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI03L906022NP.rod
   VCID: 0008267D9B1C284ADD-8054

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 8K0-907-379-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 379 BF    HW: 8K0 907 379 BF
   Component: ESP8 front    H04 0030  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 160504
   Shop #: WSC 06334 000 00000
   VCID: 7EF45885E9E85EBAAF-802A

No fault code found.

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Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 CP    HW: 8K0 907 064 CP
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H05 0435  
   Revision: 00002001    
   Coding: 033200
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 0008267D931C284ADD-8054

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 959 754 D    HW: 8T0 959 754 D
   Component: FBSAUDIB8 IDG  H60 0072 
   Serial number: 0811000008621002    

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 D    HW: 8K0 905 852 D
   Component: J764 ELV MLB  H37 0042 
   Serial number: 2311000017540007    

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:. 8Tx-820-043-3Z.clb
   Part No SW: 8T2 820 043 AF    HW: 8T2 820 043 AF
   Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H08 0180  
   Revision: D0000000    Serial number: 01100220110129
   Coding: 34340000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 76E440A5C1D816FAF7-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 8K0-907-063.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 N    HW: 8K0 907 063 N
   Component: BCM1 1.0      H30 0392  
   Revision: 09030001    Serial number: 00000000942293
   Coding: 260050914034AF010001000000001D0D001D070806010141000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 3A7C9495B540B29AD3-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K2 955 119 A    HW: 8T2 955 119   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: WWS 090211  H06 0070 
   Serial number: SWF11020090396      
   Coding: 00FD11

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 955 559     HW: 8K0 955 559   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
   Component: RLS  H04 0003 
   Serial number: 11272615            
   Coding: 025028

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AS    HW: 8K0 941 531 AS
   Component: E1 - LDS  H03 0031 
   Serial number: 00000000000302111461

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:. 8K0-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 919 475 AA    HW: 8P0 919 475 N
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H01 0080  
   Revision: 11001001    Serial number: 12501103402928
   Coding: 100203
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 78F84E9DCBCC608AE5-802C

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:* 8K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 L    HW: 8K0 959 655 L
   Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H44 0610  
   Serial number: 003JMD0945C1  
   Coding: 30533435363030303030554A3052384B3053
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 003010
   ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_003_AU48.rod
   VCID: 4684F065F9B8C67AA7-8012

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 6334MSME5C234F42K

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 6344MSME3D562D4FZ

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Serial number: 6352QSME11002662 

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Serial number: 6362QSME427E2D12N

   Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
   Serial number: 63732SME7B041954/

   Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
   Serial number: 63832SME7B04216C0

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:. 8K0-953-568.clb
   Part No SW: 8R0 953 568 K    HW: 8R0 953 568 K
   Component: Lenks.Modul   H07 0156  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 20110209000797
   Coding: 000017
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 499EFB59E0A629024A-801C

   Component: E221 - MFL  H02 0010 

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:. 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 920 981 D    HW: 8K0 920 981 D
   Component: KOMBIINSTR.   H24 0258  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: EJD14D62C     
   Coding: 2F04100002002600010000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 3460BAAD972444EA09-8060

1 Fault Found:
00003 - Control Module 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100101
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 145
                    Mileage: 133026 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.12.19
                    Time: 14:20:19


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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 8T0-907-468.clb
   Part No SW: 8T0 907 468 AD    HW: 8T0 907 468 K
   Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H09 0117  
   Revision: EC000056    Serial number: 5600E111200406
   Coding: 00CF07
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 03022971820A3352C0-8056

   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8X0 915 181     HW: 8X0 915 181 
   Component: J367-BDM  H07 0140 
   Serial number: 00000000005650530038

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 663     HW: 8K0 959 663 
   Component: J532_DCDCStab  H17 0042 
   Serial number: 11039000398011200181

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:. 8K0-959-793.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 793 N    HW: 8K0 959 793 N
   Component: TSG FA        H12 0357  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000112652235 
   Coding: 011002204001410001
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 4B92C151EADA3B1278-801E

1 Fault Found:
00109 - Left Mirror Turn Signal Lamp (L131) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 62
                    Reset counter: 212
                    Mileage: 133026 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.12.19
                    Time: 14:23:37


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Address 46: Central Conv. (J393)       Labels:. 8K0-907-064-46.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 CP    HW: 8K0 907 064 CP
   Component: BCM2 2.0      H05 0435  
   Revision: 00002001    Serial number: 0143585209    
   Coding: 013B062220B904408020023680000000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 0008267D931C284ADD-8054

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8K0 951 177 
   Component: DWA-Sensor  H02 0040 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H05 1501 

2 Faults Found:
02615 - Fuel Tank Cap; Lock 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 145
                    Mileage: 133026 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.12.19
                    Time: 14:24:32

02616 - Fuel Tank Cap; Unlock 
            009 - Open or Short to Ground
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 145
                    Mileage: 133026 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.12.19
                    Time: 14:24:59


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:. 8K0-959-792.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 792 N    HW: 8K0 959 792 N
   Component: TSG BF        H12 0357  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000112722771 
   Coding: 011002204001410001
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 4A9CC455E5A0221A43-801E

No fault code found.

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Address 53: Parking Brake (J540)       Labels: 8K0-907-801-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 H    HW: 8K0 907 801 H
   Component: EPB Audi B8   H09 0100  
   Revision: 00000003    Serial number: 00000000858840
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3460BAAD972444EA09-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 8K0-907-357.clb
   Part No: 8K5 907 357 B
   Component: Dynamische LWR  H02 0010  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0000004
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 397E8B997046B982DA-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (R)       Labels: Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 4G0 035 056     HW: 4G0 035 056 
   Component: Radio U STD   H52 0051  
   Revision: AB001007    Serial number: 469BC0B7668588
   Coding: 010003020100000001
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 5EB438054928BEBA8F-800A

No fault code found.

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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:. 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb
   Part No SW: 8T2 035 652 G    HW: 8T2 035 652 D
   Component: B-BN-EU       H60 0147  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 305BT0B7521549
   Coding: 01010101000681ED01000B0E000000030000
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 3A7C9495B540B29AD3-806E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4G0 919 884 J
   Component: EUR 2011  1204 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 604     HW: 8T0 919 604 
   Component: DU6 Basic  H42 0084 
   Serial number: 9465AX0B0266539     

   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 609     HW: 8T0 919 609 
   Component: E0380 Bedient  H08 0100 
   Serial number: 00000000743483      

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388)       Labels:. 8K0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 F    HW: 8K0 959 795 F
   Component: TSG HL        H11 0357  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000112908038 
   Coding: 010002204001210001
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 4586F769CCBECD62AE-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389)       Labels:. 8K0-959-795.clb
   Part No SW: 8K0 959 795 F    HW: 8K0 959 795 F
   Component: TSG HR        H11 0357  
   Revision:             Serial number: 0000112908067 
   Coding: 010002204001210001
   Shop #: WSC 06335 000 00000
   VCID: 4586F769CCBECD62AE-8010

No fault code found.

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Based on your description, I was expecting to see faults in other modules complaining that they couldn't talk to the offending one. But I don't see anything like that, nor any other clues as to why your MMI is rebooting.

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Once it reboots it just goes back to where it was before it went blank.
If it was rebooting I wouldn't expect it to go back to the same place, but instead to where it start when you turn the ignition on.

So I wonder if it's just an intermittent connection on the cable between the main unit and the display screen? This would also explain why no other modules complain about not being able to talk to the MMI?
 
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Am I right in saying the main unit is in the boot? Wonder how would be best to trace the fault when there are no codes and it is impossible to replicate
 
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Am I right in saying the main unit is in the boot? Wonder how would be best to trace the fault when there are no codes and it is impossible to replicate
Not all faults produce codes :cool:
That's when you have to use good old-fashioned 5 step fault finding:
- write down the symptoms
- come up with theory(ies) which MIGHT explain the symptoms
- come up with some checks/tests you can do to prove/disprove those theories
- fix anything you find
- test again until fixed

I would start by checking the connectors on the cable between the main unit in the boot and the MMI screen for security and/or damage.

The moving MMI screen would be the first place I would look...
 
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