Retrofit 3Q0 ABS Pump

downtime · Mar 25, 2019

Unfortunately highest sw version for AB available is 558. https://vag-flashinfo.de/index.php?partno=5Q0+907+379+AB&as=

So looks like not an optional route

Pump upgrade it is. Luckily 3Q0 AB pumps are not that badly priced. I bought mine from salvage yard in UK and paid 250 € for it.

Here's one : https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-GOLF-...736466?hash=item212ad841d2:g:460AAOSwjL5ZEJDM

myounus · Mar 25, 2019

I can get a 3Q0614517AA 3Q0907379AA from a breaker for about £35. Would that do the trick? Does it have component protection??

DV52 · Mar 25, 2019

no - mercifully, j104 is not part of the CP "constellation" on a mk7

myounus · Mar 26, 2019

thats a relief, plug in job then. Final point about the ABS code, will my current code work or will it need recalculating? If so, is there anything else I'll need? Don't want the car being sat idle with a non-functioning pump!

downtime · Mar 26, 2019

You can drive the car even with no code. Of course abs and esp is not functional.

I’m not sure that AA will work. It probably has different hw.

And I think we can come up with a working code if your current one does not go.

myounus · Mar 26, 2019

So you say it has to be Ab then?

downtime · Mar 26, 2019

Both seem to be H42 so looks like they have same hardware.

I don't have access to actual ETKA at the moment so I cannot verify the PR codes AA support. If you want to play it safe, get the AB pump, that works. Of course if you're able to get AA for £35, that is not too much you'll lose except some time when you change the pump

myounus · Mar 26, 2019

Which part of the item needs to be ab, the pump or the controller? The reason I ask is I've seen some pumps which are AA but the black panel says AB. See it yourself:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/312449833517

downtime · Mar 27, 2019

Controller is the magic word here

Reverted, the one in the picture is not the same as 3Q0 907 379 AB. 5Q0 is different controller.

I'm pretty sure the ABS block you linked is not suitable. It's H31, whereas 3Q0 907 379 AB is H42.

myounus · Mar 27, 2019

What about this one then, it's H42 but 3Q0 907 379 Q. Does it have to be AB?

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/163580742575

myounus · Mar 27, 2019

Or this is an AA one H42:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/223447707511

downtime · Mar 30, 2019

Sorry for taking the time. 3Q0 AA is not suitable. It does not support your ACC.

But, let me check your ABS coding. If you're able to code RCTA to your ABS coding, it should support blind spot monitoring. That's the only function where ABS is involved. Steering vibration etc. in lane change when there's a car in blind spot, is handled and coded in steering assist.

So don't go buying anything yet until you're code is cleared.

myounus · Mar 30, 2019

I've found a reasonable priced AB one, is this one correct for my car??
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/254168227150

downtime · Mar 30, 2019

Yes that looks correct

downtime · Mar 30, 2019

But before you buy anything, I looked at your ABS coding and looks like your ABS is able to support RCTA. It has enough bytes

So first install BSM and then if it does not work, then install ABS.

I'm quite sure the blind spot system will work just fine with your current ABS.

myounus · Mar 30, 2019

I've installed bsm but it's not working. I'll post an updated scan

myounus · Mar 30, 2019

Scan below: I really need to get a V2 cable. Uwe any deals on exchanging a Hex CAN unlimited VIN for a V2?

Code:

Saturday,30,March,2019,16:14:44:03801
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.1.0 (x64)
Data version: 20190114 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: VW UK
Workshop Code: 123 12345 012345

VIN: WVWZZZAUZEP074956   License Plate: 
Mileage: 53360km-33156mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: AU-VW37 (5Q0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 13 15 16 17 19 3C 42 44 52 55 5F A5

VIN: WVWZZZAUZEP074956   Mileage: 53360km-33156miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
3C-Lane Change -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: Malfunction 0010
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
A5-Frt Sens. Drv. Assist -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine (J623-CRBC)       Labels:. 04L-907-309-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 04L 906 021 DT    HW: 04L 907 309 D
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC   H22 5520  
   Revision: 83H22---    
   Coding: 011D0032036505082000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906021DT 002004
   ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01104L906021DT_002.rod
   VCID: 7AFC4FC4FDD1809A93-802E

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 

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Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels: 0D9-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 0D9 300 040 N    HW: 02E 927 770 AQ
   Component: DQ250-6F MQB  H52 4305  
   Revision: 03252204    Serial number: TFK01401250588
   Coding: 0014
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00066
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ250021 001001
   ROD: EV_TCMDQ250021.rod
   VCID: 224C57A435C1285AEB-8076

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 379 AB    HW: 5Q0 907 379 H
   Component: ESC           H31 0557  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 6054400000042F
   Coding: 01FA8AA1242709700380060541C92980512490C0608294F3F8625078C202
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 033001
   ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_033_VW37.rod
   VCID: 7CF049DCF7E5BEAA81-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 5G0-907-426.clb
   Part No SW: 5G0 907 426 AK    HW: 5G0 907 426 AK
   Component: AC Manuell    H03 1601  
   Revision: 00001K06    
   Coding: 00120104202110001000000000000002
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00024
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X 004132
   ROD: EV_ACManueBHBVW37X_004_VW37.rod
   VCID: 74E061FCDFB5F6EAC9-8020

   Fresh Air Blower Front: 

   Refrigerant Pressure And Temperature Sender: 

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:| 5Q0-937-08X-HV1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 AJ    HW: 5Q0 937 084 AJ
   Component: BCM MQBAB H   H18 0134  
   Serial number: 01011411900972
   Coding: 03041A44C241227B0BA44080B10403281000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMCONTI 013000
   ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_013.rod
   VCID: 00083D2C9B0DDA4ADD-8054

   Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G2 955 119 A    HW: 5G2 955 119 A  Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
   Component: WWS    140216  042 0551 
   Serial number:         140218200751
   Coding: 0E4DDD

   Rain Light Recognition Sensor: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 559     HW: 5Q0 955 559   Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
   Component: RLS  024 0042 
   Serial number: Y14M02D28H03M27S12S8
   Coding: 00A8DD

   Sensor For Anti Theft Alarm System: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 172     HW: 5Q0 951 172 
   Component: Sensor, DWA  005 0315 
   Serial number: 000000000ZY140340CLY

   Alarm horn: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605     HW: 5Q0 951 605 
   Component: Sirene, DWA  004 0311 
   Serial number: 00000000000028780639

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-298.clb
   Part No SW: 5QA 919 298 C    HW: 5QA 919 298 A
   Component: PLA 3.0 12KH07 0045  
   Serial number: 000308417617293
   Coding: 0371265851
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA2CAU3700000 009037
   ROD: EV_EPHVA2CAU3700000_009_VW37.rod
   VCID: 50A8CD6C0BEDEACA0D-8004

2 Faults Found:
12656926 - Databus 
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 4
                    Mileage: 53360 km
                    Date: 2019.03.30
                    Time: 16:02:15

13688835 - Databus 
          U1123 00 [009] - Received Error Message
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 4
                    Mileage: 53360 km
                    Date: 2019.03.30
                    Time: 16:02:14


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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-572-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 572 B    HW: 5Q0 907 572 B
   Component: ACC Bosch MQB H04 0200  
   Serial number: 12041476510678
   Coding: 001C1300FE0339
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372 001014
   ROD: EV_ACCMRRBoschVW372_VW26.rod
   VCID: 36649BF48949A4FA37-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 AA    HW: 5Q0 959 655 AA
   Component: AirbagVW20    014 0386  
   Serial number: 003MLR03W5K4
   Coding: 98CCC000000000005C0000CF00C800000065
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00061
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002130
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X.rod
   VCID: 7F0ABED0E6F3A5B2A4-802A

   Belt Pretensioner left: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 945 B    HW: 5G0 980 945 B
   Component: BeltPretRevFL  H35 0341 
   Serial number: 34169677B28021450347
   Coding: 333135

   Belt Pretensioner right: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 980 946 B    HW: 5G0 980 946 B
   Component: BeltPretRevFR  H35 0341 
   Serial number: 34169676B27021450365
   Coding: 333135

   Side Sensor Driver Front: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 402 14
   Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
   Serial number: 35767000000705E00F0Q
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 002 702 14
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
   Serial number: 35867000000A4B251F0Y
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 502 14
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149 
   Serial number: 3516502BB142B1C08210
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 802 14
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149 
   Serial number: 3526502A312F6292D3FI
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Sensor Driver: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 402 402 14
   Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149 
   Serial number: 3556502C112F62954096
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 953 507 DD    HW: 5Q0 953 549 C
   Component: Lenks. Modul  002 0110  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 03031404220519
   Coding: 0C10
   Shop #: WSC 40898 002 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 017001
   ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_VW37.rod
   VCID: 7BF24AC0F2EBB99288-802E

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
   Part No SW: 5G0 920 961 A    HW: 5G0 920 961 A
   Component: KOMBI         252 2210  
   Coding: 27A519086F882E0001886A0B040000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 008031
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_008_VW37.rod
   VCID: 2858458C53FDC20AB5-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 Q    HW: 5Q0 907 530 M
   Component: GW MQB High   212 2163  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 04031410800267
   Coding: 030100040B087300EF00005C1C0F00010001000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 40898 002 1048576
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewConti 010015
   ROD: EV_GatewConti_010.rod
   VCID: 3F8AFED0A67365B2E4-806A

   Alternator: 

   Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 959 442 K    HW: 5G0 959 442 K  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H15 0038 
   Serial number: 29140000230530104075
   Coding: 2DFFFF

   Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 E    HW: 5Q0 915 181 E
   Component: J367-BDMHella  H03 8043 
   Serial number: 5289432703          

No fault code found.

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Address 3C: Lane Change (J1086)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-686.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 686 B    HW: 5Q0 907 686 B
   Component: HRE_Master    H12 0071  
   Serial number: 0400936029
   Coding: 02031203
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HREntryHella 001028
   ROD: EV_HREntryHella_VW37.rod
   VCID: 3C7089DCB7657EAAC1-8068

   Lane Change Assistant 2: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 907 685 B    HW: 5Q0 907 685 B
   Component: HRE_Slave  H12 0071 
   Serial number: 0400325995          
   Coding: 020312

1 Fault Found:
336901 - Databus 
          U1121 00 [009] - Missing Message
          [New feature! Extended UDS fault detail is only supported by current gen. interfaces]
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 4
                    Mileage: 53360 km
                    Date: 2019.03.30
                    Time: 16:07:17


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q4 959 593 B    HW: 5Q4 959 593 B
   Component: TSG FS        009 0014  
   Serial number: 0000093468588 
   Coding: 003F0220D001048000001000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT 006001
   ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 4480F13CCF95066AB9-8010

   Drivers Door Rear Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 812 A    HW: 5Q4 959 812 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: Fond FHSG DRV  007 0002 
   Serial number: 00000000000004375448
   Coding: 0D0000

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 909 144 P    HW: 5Q0 909 144 P
   Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  122 1043  
   Coding: 9303
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00066
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 010031
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_010.rod
   VCID: 418EF828D087134292-8014

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q4 959 592 B    HW: 5Q4 959 592 B
   Component: TSG BFS       009 0014  
   Serial number: 0000093350543 
   Coding: 003F0020DE01048000801000
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT 006001
   ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 4382F220CA9B015280-8016

   Passengers Rear Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q4 959 811 A    HW: 5Q4 959 811 A  Labels: 5QX-959-81X-V1.CLB
   Component: Fond FHSG PSG  007 0002 
   Serial number: 00000000000004391698
   Coding: 050000

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range (J745)       Labels:| 7P6-907-357.clb
   Part No SW: 7P6 907 357 D    HW: 7P6 907 357 A
   Component: AFS-ECU       H07 0090  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: --------------
   Coding: 06AE01000B000200
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00068
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSMQB 001120
   ROD: EV_HeadlRegulVWAFSMQB.rod
   VCID: 4088FD2CDB8D1A4A9D-8014

   Left Headlamp Power Output Stage: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3D0 941 329 E    HW: 3D0 941 329 E  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LeiMo links  H01 0002 
   Coding: 2E0000

   Right Headlamp Power Output Stage: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 3D0 941 329 E    HW: 3D0 941 329 E  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: LeiMo rechts  H01 0002 
   Coding: 2E0000

1 Fault Found:
5256725 - Rear Left Ride-Height Sensor 
          C1036 15 [137] - Open or Short to Plus
          MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 4
                    Mileage: 53360 km
                    Date: 2019.03.30
                    Time: 16:02:14


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Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD1.clb
   Part No SW: 5G0 035 874     HW: 5G0 035 874 
   Component: MU-S-ND-ER    040 0430  
   Serial number: V7F02202142644
   Coding: 02730001FF00000021111201002800001F0100160100010045
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00066
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CPASE 002039
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CPASE_VW37.rod
   VCID: 67DA06B09E630D727C-8032

   Operating And Display Unit 1: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G0 919 605 D    HW: 5G0 919 605 D
   Component: ABT_Std_Nav  H51 0022 
   Serial number: VWZ8Z9NJ9037N4      

   Data medium: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 919 866 F    HW: -----------
   Component:  ECE 2014  --- 0036 
   Serial number: --------------------

No fault code found.

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Address A5: Frt Sens. Drv. Assist (R242)       Labels:| 5Q0-980-653.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 980 653 G    HW: 5Q0 980 653 
   Component: MQB_MFK       H06 0060  
   Serial number: 10000102807   
   Coding: 0100000001020303000300010100010100
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MFKBoschAU370 001001
   ROD: EV_MFKBoschAU370.rod
   VCID: 3C7089DCB7657EAAC1-8068

No fault code found.

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myounus · Mar 30, 2019

Please ignore the other faults, I also need to get a headlamp level sensor for it and fill up the a/c. I think the part number for the level sensor is 5Q0512521G.

Uwe · Mar 30, 2019

myounus said:
Scan below: I really need to get a V2 cable. Uwe any deals on exchanging a Hex CAN unlimited VIN for a V2?

Yes. I suggest starting with the distributor who assembled and sold the cable you're using. I would think his company's name is on it. He may balk because you're not the original owner, but tell him that you've paid to register the old one and with us, and that I sent you.

-Uwe-

downtime · Mar 30, 2019

Let's see. Maybe some coding updates to your codings..

ABS 03 :

Code:

01FA8AA1242709700380060541C92980512490C0608294F3F8625078C282

Then can you elaborate a bit how does the BSM not work? Does it show the menu item when you open the assist menu in the instrument cluster?

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