MQB Platform - DRL Flash with lock/unlock

vwflames69 · Jan 16, 2019

Hello all,

I'm hoping someone can help out with this; I was trying to figure out how to code my car so the LED Drl's flash with my parking lights when I lock/unlock the car. (2017 GTI with lighting package)
If anyone has any suggestions, I'm all ears... Been searching for the past 2 weeks with no luck.

Thank you,
Kevin

TBAx · Jan 16, 2019

Do you mean the Coming Home / Leaving Home or the signaling that unlocking/locking has been done (normaly two flashes for unlock, one for lock)?
Please also add a control module map of your BCM (09) adaptions as CSV using the login 31347 (AdpMap).

vwflames69 · Jan 16, 2019

Thank you for replying so quickly.

I am looking for the 2 flashes for unlock and one for lock.
I will have to add the map you are talking about later this evening as I am stuck at work right now.

Thank you...

TBAx · Jan 16, 2019

I don't know how it is named in the english VCDS, but you could accomplish this using the "Dynamische Blinkmodi". Never tested it that way, but it could work.

ENG141649-ENG122204-Außenlicht_Blinker-ZV_Blinken_auf = active
ENG141649-ENG122203-Außenlicht_Blinker-ZV_Blinken_zu = active

Then set the desired Leuchte channels to function "Aktive Blinkfunktion hat ein auf 1 gesetztes zugeordnetes Bit in pa_dynamisch_blinken" and give then a dimming value and direction.

vwflames69 · Jan 16, 2019

I will have to look into that, thank you!

Do you happen to have a link or more information regarding the coming home/leaving home programming?

Thank you again...

DV52 · Jan 16, 2019

TBAx said:
I don't know how it is named in the english VCDS, but you could accomplish this using the "Dynamische Blinkmodi". Never tested it that way, but it could work.

ENG141649-ENG122204-Außenlicht_Blinker-ZV_Blinken_auf = active
ENG141649-ENG122203-Außenlicht_Blinker-ZV_Blinken_zu = active

Then set the desired Leuchte channels to function "Aktive Blinkfunktion hat ein auf 1 gesetztes zugeordnetes Bit in pa_dynamisch_blinken" and give then a dimming value and direction.

TBAx :it's reported as "Dyn. turn signal modes" in english version of VCDS and your instructions do indeed work! I wrote a set of similar steps using your technique a couple of years ago now (vwflames: see HERE)

Don

Don

vwflames69 · Jan 17, 2019

Hi Don,

Thank you so much for the reply; I just went to my car and performed the steps from the link you provided. Warnblinken_Zuendung_EIN & Warnblinken_Zuendung_AUS were already set to active, then after going through the other steps, the front DRL's won't flash.

Is there anything that I need to reset? I even put my headlight switch to "Auto" cycled through the lock/unlock function with no luck.

Any suggestions would greatly be appreciated.

Thank you again...

Mika_M · Jan 17, 2019

Don't know about this specific mod, but some changes to MQB BCM lighting functions need a complete BCM shutdown before they come to life. Means that car has to sit ignition off and doors locked for at least 15 minutes or so. Just a few days ago I was struggling with Skoda Octavia, OEM LED licence plate lights installed but couldn't get the "check bulb" warning go away after changing the bulb type adaptation channel. Until I remembered this... after a good night's sleep (for me and the car) everything was working.

So there might be other issues, but it is always good to let the car sit for like half hour, after making changes. And then see if they are working.

TBAx · Jan 17, 2019

vwflames69 said:
Warnblinken_Zuendung_EIN & Warnblinken_Zuendung_AUS

You mean ZV_Blinken_auf & ZV_Blinken_zu?

DV52 · Jan 17, 2019

TBAx said:
You mean ZV_Blinken_auf & ZV_Blinken_zu?

TBAx: Quite right - my bad!!

Don
PS: Fixed-up my instructions - thanks again

vwflames69 · Jan 18, 2019

Thank you for the information and updating the instructions.

When I followed the updated steps: ZV_Blinken_auf & ZV_Blinken_zu were already active as well as Warnblinken_Zuendung_EIN & Warnblinken_Zuendung_AUS.
With both these categories "active" will that cancel out the front lights from blinking? Just curious because after following the steps it still doesn't flash :/ Even let it sit for 15 minutes as suggested a few post back and no luck.

If there is anything that you guys need on my end I will be happy to get you that information.

I really appreciate every bodies input on this!

DV52 · Jan 18, 2019

^^^ Of course, I will always refer to TBAx - but I'm thinking perhaps your selection of the Leuchte channels for the DRL lamps might be the problem. If you post-up a copy of the Adaptation map for the control module @ address hex09 (it's called "Cent. Elect. (J519)" on your auto-scan), we can confirm how your car's DRL lighting is configured.

Don

PS: If you are not familiar with the term "Adaptation map", or if the term congers-up a mental image of some kind of cadastral file, then look at RT's magnificent video HERE. This video has a dual purpose, but if you start at about 2:19 minutes, you will learn how to generate an "admap" for individual control modules. At about 2:33 minutes into the video choose different options as follows:

control address = 09
Under "Function", click the adaptation radio button
Under "output", click the CSV file radio button

then just press the Go button and magic stuff will happen!!

May the force be with you

vwflames69 · Jan 18, 2019

Hi Don,

Thank you thank you for the help and the links! I viewed the link you provided and went out and did the "adaptation map" which was pretty cool by the way.
Wasn't sure how to get you the excel file RT provided so hopefully the link works.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=15lYTkIOg1sI_nYdYJFXTi20YZuSOAJVs

Thank you again for looking into this and helping

PS - I also tried this and nothing worked other than the low beams being turned off with the CH/LH function.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Jr7F2_5Pco8voSXeNzGdobBIBMNCIgyKR8bMxec1M_Q/pubhtml

DV52 · Jan 19, 2019

^^vwflames: Mighty effort by you - go directly to the top of the class and collect the admiration and undying adulation of the forum - yes, perhaps a tad over-the-top, but thanks for creating and for posting the admap!!

So, it seems from your file that there are 4 x Leuchte-sets that control the DRLs as follows:

Code:

ENG116938-ENG115910-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lasttyp 2	4 - LED Tagfahrlichtmodul Signal 
ENG116938-ENG116550-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lampendefektbitposition 2	48
ENG116938-ENG115912-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC 2	4A 
ENG116938-ENG115913-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion A 2	Daytime running lights 
ENG116938-ENG115914-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion B 2	not active 
ENG116938-ENG115915-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Dimmwert AB 2	100
ENG116938-ENG115916-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtansteuerung HD AB 2	Always 
ENG116938-ENG115917-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion C 2	not active 
ENG116938-ENG115918-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion D 2	not active 
ENG116938-ENG115919-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Dimmwert CD 2	0
ENG116938-ENG115920-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Dimming Direction CD 2	minimize 
ENG116938-ENG115921-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion E 2	Standlicht allgemein (Schlusslicht: Positionslicht: Begrenzungslicht) 
ENG116938-ENG115922-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion F 2	Parklicht links (beidseitiges Parklicht aktiviert li & re) 
ENG116938-ENG115923-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Dimmwert EF 2	26
ENG116938-ENG115924-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Dimming Direction EF 2	maximize 
ENG116938-ENG115925-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion G 2	not active 
ENG116938-ENG115926-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Lichtfunktion H 2	not active 
ENG116938-ENG115927-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Dimmwert GH 2	0
ENG116938-ENG115928-Leuchte2SL VLB10-Dimming Direction GH 2	maximize 
	
ENG116939-ENG115929-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lasttyp 3	4 - LED Tagfahrlichtmodul Signal 
ENG116939-ENG116551-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lampendefektbitposition 3	4C 
ENG116939-ENG115931-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC 3	4C 
ENG116939-ENG115932-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion A 3	Daytime running lights 
ENG116939-ENG115933-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion B 3	not active 
ENG116939-ENG115934-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Dimmwert AB 3	100
ENG116939-ENG115935-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtansteuerung HD AB 3	Always 
ENG116939-ENG115936-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion C 3	not active 
ENG116939-ENG115937-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion D 3	not active 
ENG116939-ENG115938-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Dimmwert CD 3	0
ENG116939-ENG115939-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Dimming Direction CD 3	minimize 
ENG116939-ENG115940-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion E 3	Standlicht allgemein (Schlusslicht: Positionslicht: Begrenzungslicht) 
ENG116939-ENG116552-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion F 3	Parking light right 
ENG116939-ENG115942-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Dimmwert EF 3	26
ENG116939-ENG115943-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Dimming Direction EF 3	maximize 
ENG116939-ENG115944-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion G 3	not active 
ENG116939-ENG115945-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Lichtfunktion H 3	not active 
ENG116939-ENG115946-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Dimmwert GH 3	0
ENG116939-ENG115947-Leuchte3SL VRB21-Dimming Direction GH 3	maximize 
	
ENG116940-ENG115948-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lasttyp 4	1 - LED Tagfahrlichtmodul Versorgung 
ENG116940-ENG116553-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lampendefektbitposition 4	3A 
ENG116940-ENG115950-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC 4	49
ENG116940-ENG115951-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion A 4	Daytime running lights 
ENG116940-ENG115952-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion B 4	not active 
ENG116940-ENG115953-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Dimmwert AB 4	127
ENG116940-ENG115954-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtansteuerung HD AB 4	Always 
ENG116940-ENG115955-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion C 4	not active 
ENG116940-ENG115956-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion D 4	not active 
ENG116940-ENG115957-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Dimmwert CD 4	0
ENG116940-ENG115958-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Dimming Direction CD 4	minimize 
ENG116940-ENG115959-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion E 4	Standlicht allgemein (Schlusslicht: Positionslicht: Begrenzungslicht) 
ENG116940-ENG115960-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion F 4	Parklicht links (beidseitiges Parklicht aktiviert li & re) 
ENG116940-ENG115961-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Dimmwert EF 4	127
ENG116940-ENG115962-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Dimming Direction EF 4	maximize 
ENG116940-ENG115963-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion G 4	not active 
ENG116940-ENG115964-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion H 4	not active 
ENG116940-ENG115965-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Dimmwert GH 4	0
ENG116940-ENG115966-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Dimming Direction GH 4	maximize 
	
ENG116941-ENG115967-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lasttyp 5	1 - LED Tagfahrlichtmodul Versorgung 
ENG116941-ENG116554-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lampendefektbitposition 5	44
ENG116941-ENG115969-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Fehlerort mittleres Byte DTC-DFCC 5	4B 
ENG116941-ENG115970-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion A 5	Daytime running lights 
ENG116941-ENG115971-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion B 5	not active 
ENG116941-ENG115972-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Dimmwert AB 5	127
ENG116941-ENG115973-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtansteuerung HD AB 5	Always 
ENG116941-ENG115974-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion C 5	not active 
ENG116941-ENG115975-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion D 5	not active 
ENG116941-ENG115976-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Dimmwert CD 5	0
ENG116941-ENG115977-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Dimming Direction CD 5	minimize 
ENG116941-ENG115978-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion E 5	Standlicht allgemein (Schlusslicht: Positionslicht: Begrenzungslicht) 
ENG116941-ENG116555-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion F 5	Parking light right 
ENG116941-ENG115980-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Dimmwert EF 5	127
ENG116941-ENG115981-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Dimming Direction EF 5	maximize 
ENG116941-ENG115982-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion G 5	not active 
ENG116941-ENG115983-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion H 5	not active 
ENG116941-ENG115984-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Dimmwert GH 5	0
ENG116941-ENG115985-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Dimming Direction GH 5	maximize

The records above come directly from your admap albeit I have re-ordered the sequence so that the operation of the Leuchte-sets makes more sense (to me at least)

The changes that you have made to the Dyn turn signal mode channels is correct, but I note that the changes suggested in steps 8 - 13 of my instructions have not been made. Not sure why not - can you confirm please?

Don

vwflames69 · Jan 19, 2019

Hi Don,

Thank you for the kind words!

I can confirm that I didn't do steps 8-13 in your instructions when I ran the adaptation map just because I wanted you to see what my car's coding looks like; I apologize for not running the adaption with the full coding change.

However, I just recoded it and the LED lights do not flash with the lock/unlock feature; so I ran the adaptation map again and supplied a link with the new values.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=15lYTkIOg1sI_nYdYJFXTi20YZuSOAJVs

I do apologize for the mistake and thank you for your time with helping me out!

Thank you,
Kevin

DV52 · Jan 19, 2019

^^^ Kevin: Hi again
hmm......... Of course I'm the first to admit that I'm a bit of a Luddite where non-relational database files are concerned. And, I most certainly agree that things work somewhat differently way down here in the Southern Hemisphere (i.e. in the Antipodes). But isn't your latest admap (in post #15) exactly the same as your first admap (in post #13)? If these 2 x files are not the same (they appear to have the same the file-name), then my observation is that there are no differences in the adaptation channel values for the DRLs.

What have I missed?

Don

vwflames69 · Jan 20, 2019

Hi Don,

Oh my goodness I'm so sorry, you did not miss anything; I guess the force was not strong with me today! lol

After reviewing the link in post #15 I realized I attached the wrong file. Please see the updated link:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1GCQngzJNxJW0BOIC4evPy8oEIhAZ9PKv

Once again sorry about that! Hope you are having a good weekend

Kevin

DV52 · Jan 20, 2019

^^^ Hmm.......... try this:

revert the settings to Leuchte2SL VLB10 and Leuchte3SL VRB21 back to factory values (see my post #14 for these values)

Make the following changes - bracketed values are default:

ENG116940-ENG115963-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Lichtfunktion G 4 = Aktive Blinkfunktion hat ein auf 1 gesetztes zugeordnetes Bit in pa_dynamisch_blinken (not active)
ENG116940-ENG115965-Leuchte4TFL LB4-Dimmwert GH 4 = 100 (0)

ENG116941-ENG115982-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Lichtfunktion G 5 = Aktive Blinkfunktion hat ein auf 1 gesetztes zugeordnetes Bit in pa_dynamisch_blinken (not active)
ENG116941-ENG115984-Leuchte5 TFL RB32-Dimmwert GH 5 = 100 (0)

Don

vwflames69 · Jan 20, 2019

Hi Don,

Thank you for sending over the new values. I just went out to the car and reverted Leuchte2sl & Leuchte3sl back to factory values. However, I did make the new changes and unfortunately no luck. I am attaching the adaption map with the new changes just for reference.

I really do appreciate you helping me with this and I apologize for the amount of time it is taking from you...

Kevin

https://drive.google.com/open?id=17q0U-uG2KOpfRulMdEPA924Gl03u481e

DV52 · Jan 21, 2019

^^^^ hmm... I'm all out of suggestions!! the tweak has worked on my old mk7 Golf -can't understand why it's so problematic on your car

Don

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