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    HN 77




    HN 176




    176 never finishes the update.
    USB utility on on Win8.1
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    176 never finishes the update.
    Thanks! Shaun will have to see if he can see what's up with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    Thanks! Shaun will have to see if he can see what's up with that.

    -Uwe-
    Thanks.


    I still contend that if the web interface can't do this exact same function, the button should say:





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    Ok you've described several different failures in the past including stuck in a loop downloading rods and having the utility crash. Can I get a current summary of what you mean by
    176 never finishes the update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun View Post
    Ok you've described several different failures in the past including stuck in a loop downloading rods and having the utility crash. Can I get a current summary of what you mean by
    It lays there until I close the utility.
    Previously it was in a loop update -> done -> needs update, etc.

    Edit: Checked again and it won't show up in the utility again until power is removed and re-attached.

    Edit 2: Ok here's a new behaviour after reboot and checking again:



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    When the update hangs, is the HEX-NET mounted to the computer as a drive? If so, can you copy the file /rodlist from it and send it to me.

    If I recall correctly, you mentioned seeing a "this drive was not removed correctly" type message at one point. Do you see a file system type warning like this often when doing the update?

    --Shaun

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    Sometimes it mounts and sometimes it doesn't.
    A few tries and I got the files.

    I get that warning every time the USB utility is used.

    rodlist
    Code:
    ,4,EV_AdaptCruisContr2AU64X,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-907-541-A,1398879865
    ,4,EV_ECM42FSI0114H0907560C,,4H0-907-560-C,1398879865
    EV_GatewUDS_AU57.rod,5,EV_GatewUDS,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-907-468-F,1398879865
    ,4,EV_TCMALX51011,,4H1-927-158-BR,1398879865
    EV_ESPPremi_AU64.rod,5,EV_ESPPremi,,4H0-907-379-C,1398879865
    EV_AirCondiFront_AU64.rod,5,EV_AirCondiFront,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-820-043-H,1398879865
    EV_EPHVA18AU57X0000.rod,5,EV_EPHVA18AU57X0000,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-919-475-L,1398879865
    ,4,EV_AdaptCruisContrAU64X,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-907-561-A,1398879865
    ,4,EV_AirbaAU10BPAAU64X,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-959-655-D,1398879865
    ,4,EV_RBD4K,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-920-980-H,1398879865
    ,4,EV_AirCondiHeck,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-919-158-D,1398879865
    EV_AirSuspe_AU64.rod,5,EV_AirSuspe,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-907-553-C,1398879865
    EV_SARA.rod,5,EV_SARA,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-907-637,1398879865
    ,0,EV_DeckLidContrUnit,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-959-107-R,1398879865
    ,4,EV_Ambie,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-907-412,1398879865
    ,4,EV_GSM2x3Mono,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H1-927-731-A,1398879865
    ,4,EV_OnBoardCamerDPC,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4G0-907-217,1398879865
    EV_IVBDriveSideFrnt.rod,5,EV_IVBDriveSideFrnt,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-907-182-H,1398879865
    EV_IVBDriveSideFrnt.rod,5,EV_IVBPasseSideFrnt,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-907-182-H,1398879865
    EV_IVBDriveSideFrnt.rod,5,EV_IVBDriveSideRear,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-907-182-G,1398879865
    ,4,EV_IVBPasseSideRear,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-907-182-G,1398879865
    EV_BC7.rod,5,EV_BC7,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4G0-907-107-C,1398879865
    ,0,EV_RGS_L,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-980-945-B,1398879865
    EV_RGS_R.rod,5,EV_RGS_R,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-980-946-B,1398879865
    rodlist-2
    Code:
    ,4,EV_AdaptCruisContr2AU64X,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-907-541-A,1398879865
    ,4,EV_ECM42FSI0114H0907560C,,4H0-907-560-C,1398879865
    EV_GatewUDS_AU57.rod,5,EV_GatewUDS,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-907-468-F,1398879865
    ,4,EV_TCMALX51011,,4H1-927-158-BR,1398879865
    EV_ESPPremi_AU64.rod,5,EV_ESPPremi,,4H0-907-379-C,1398879865
    EV_AirCondiFront_AU64.rod,5,EV_AirCondiFront,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-820-043-H,1398879865
    EV_EPHVA18AU57X0000.rod,5,EV_EPHVA18AU57X0000,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-919-475-L,1398879865
    ,4,EV_AdaptCruisContrAU64X,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-907-561-A,1398879865
    ,4,EV_AirbaAU10BPAAU64X,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-959-655-D,1398879865
    ,4,EV_RBD4K,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-920-980-H,1398879865
    ,4,EV_AirCondiHeck,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-919-158-D,1398879865
    EV_AirSuspe_AU64.rod,5,EV_AirSuspe,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-907-553-C,1398879865
    EV_SARA.rod,5,EV_SARA,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-907-637,1398879865
    ,0,EV_DeckLidContrUnit,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-959-107-R,1398879865
    ,4,EV_Ambie,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-907-412,1398879865
    ,4,EV_GSM2x3Mono,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H1-927-731-A,1398879865
    ,4,EV_OnBoardCamerDPC,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4G0-907-217,1398879865
    EV_IVBDriveSideFrnt.rod,5,EV_IVBDriveSideFrnt,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-907-182-H,1398879865
    EV_IVBDriveSideFrnt.rod,5,EV_IVBPasseSideFrnt,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-907-182-H,1398879865
    EV_IVBDriveSideFrnt.rod,5,EV_IVBDriveSideRear,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-907-182-G,1398879865
    ,4,EV_IVBPasseSideRear,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-907-182-G,1398879865
    EV_BC7.rod,5,EV_BC7,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4G0-907-107-C,1398879865
    ,0,EV_RGS_L,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-980-945-B,1398879865
    EV_RGS_R.rod,5,EV_RGS_R,WAURVAFD6CN014370,4H0-980-946-B,1398879865
    Last edited by jakematic; 11-19-2014 at 07:17 PM.


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    And back to my question:


    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    I can confirm that after scanning my 2015 GTI (which is all UDS) with a relatively-virgin HEX-NET in AP mode, it encountered several missing ROD files. I was able to come inside, check for updates using VCDS-Mobile in Infrastructure Mode and it fetched the files needed. It took a few iterations of this so repeat as needed. If you are going on a trip without interwebz and need to make sure you have all of the files, make sure to do a complete AutoScan using VCDS-Mobile while still at home and check to make sure there are no missing ROD files.
    Assuming I've scanned it in the past, no modules got their module sex on and made new baby modules... shouldn't an update at my desk [edit: via the web interface] do just that ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jakematic View Post
    Assuming I've scanned it in the past, no modules got their module sex on and made new baby modules... shouldn't an update at my desk [edit: via the web interface] do just that ?
    Probably yes. I think we're getting to the bottom of the mystery. The USB utility "rod update" process is working off the very same dynamic queue of ROD requests as the Mobile web UI ASAM/ROD downloader. So in terms of design, those data are indeed available both OTA and USB. The Mobile web UI and the USB update utility should be in complete agreement on whether you're up to date (except the CFB and Boot objects).

    In reality, neither the OTA nor the USB update process seem bulletproof yet. I'm sure that will get sorted out in due time. In the meantime, we have our answer. If OTA says we're up to date but USB says we're not, that ain't a feature -- that's a bug.

    I wonder if you cleared your ASAM data cache from the Mobile Options menu, if it would get you past this hung state with the USB updater? Don't do it just yet, without the go-ahead from Shaun, because that will definitely change the internal state of your HN that he's trying to troubleshoot.

    Jason

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    Quote Originally Posted by jyoung8607 View Post
    The Mobile web UI and the USB update utility should be in complete agreement on whether you're up to date (except the CFB and Boot objects).
    "Except CFB and Boot" means one of these things is not like the other, or not as capable yet.


    Quote Originally Posted by jyoung8607 View Post
    If OTA says we're up to date but USB says we're not, that ain't a feature -- that's a bug.
    See above.


    Quote Originally Posted by jyoung8607 View Post
    I wonder if you cleared your ASAM data cache from the Mobile Options menu, if it would get you past this hung state with the USB updater? Don't do it just yet, without the go-ahead from Shaun, because that will definitely change the internal state of your HN that he's trying to troubleshoot.
    Got that corn cob soaking in kerosene don't ya Jason ?
    Took me three days and umpteen tries to get all that re-downloaded last time with all the skipped modules and getting dumped back to login during scans
    That's how we discovered that if a scan is identical it won't overwrite the old one.

    If VCDS Classic has all the data it should be able to transfer it during a cabled scan...

    Pretty sure I know which lamp post to park next to at the grocery store to get a stable enough connection to VCDS-Cloud... <sigh>


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