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    MMI (2G) and Climate Control

    Greetings, I just joined and this is my first post.

    I bought my first Audi a few months ago. It is a 2006 A6 Avant (C6 platform). I've purchased a VCDS License and Interface and am still figuring out how to use it. I'll paste in an Auto-Scan at the bottom is this message.

    This is my problem.

    I updated the software for the MMI system to version 4610. I followed TSB 2019334/2. I was able to restore "seat position memory via key" (07- Display> Adaptation Channel 1> old value was 5402, added up all options and got value of 5434, used that value and it worked). I restored the Instrument Cluster menu item in CAR Menu (TSB 2020250). And I restored Battery charge status in the CAR Menu via the MMI Hidden Menu.

    I later realized that the climate control via MMI was not working. It used to be that if you touched a button on the climate control unit like fan, the display showed a big dial and the MMI knob could be used to make adjustments. I found that safer while driving than using the climate control unit. TSB 2017424/3 seems to cover that problem but the solution described is to "perform guided fault finding / guided function" and run "J523 Front Info Display Ctrl. Head, adaptation (RG.91)." I could not figure out how to do that in VCDS. Is that something that one can do in VCDS??

    I went hunting in the MMI hidden menu and under Diag Settings > APK 0x01, 0x0B, 0x0C I found an unchecked item called "Air Condition." I checked that item. Now when you push a button on the climate control unit, a visual image appears on the Display but you still can only make changes on the climate control unit. I don’t think the display is the same as it was with MMI control.

    I next checked 07-Display > Adaptation Channel 11 and noted that the current value is 52. From the list of values in the VCDS pop-up window it appears that "32 Climate Control Comfort installed" is selected (I'm guessing that, if one can only get to 52 by including a 32, then it is selected).

    Anyone have any suggestions?

    Thanks!

    Bruce Newton PS - Should I worry about the DTC’s in 61- Battery Regulator?

    Code:
    Tuesday,18,November,2014,11:31:28:33848
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
    VCDS Version: 14.10.0.0
    Data version: 20141022
    
    
    VIN: WAUKH74F26N100067   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 133920km-83214mi   Repair Order: 
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Chassis Type: 4F (4F0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 07 08 09 0E 0F 15 16 17 19 36 37 42 46 47 4F 52
              53 55 56 61 62 65 67 6D 72 76 77
    
    VIN: WAUKH74F26N100067   Mileage: 133920km-83214miles
    
    00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
    0F-Digital Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    61-Battery Regul. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
    67-Voice Control -- Status: OK 0000
    6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
     
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (AUK)       Labels: 06E-910-559-BKH.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F1 910 559 E    HW: 4F1 907 559 A
       Component: 3.2l V6 FSI         0050  
       Revision: --H15---    Serial number:               
       Coding: 010D0109190F0120
       Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
       VCID: 2D5129D9B4950649F4D-8078
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F2 910 156 D    HW: 09L 927 156 A
       Component: AG6 09L 3,2 FSI USA 0010  
       Revision: --H01---    Serial number:        4100727
       Coding: 0000002
       Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
       VCID: 2643D6F591633511357-8073
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 4F0-910-517.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 517 L    HW: 4F0 614 517 L
       Component: ESP 8.0 quattro H04 0090  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0020895
       Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
       VCID: 2D5129D9B4950649F4D-8078
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels: 4F0-910-852.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 852     HW: 4F0 905 852 B
       Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELV   H31 0180  
       Revision: 30070501    Serial number: 10600700269927
       Coding: 0000143
       Shop #: WSC 23190 444 53268
       VCID: 63C58FE1A2D18039129-8036
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 131 L
       Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS   H45 0070
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 335 
       Component: FBSAUDIC6 KSG   H27 0080
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 07: Control Head        Labels: 4F0-910-7xx-07-H.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 732 Q    HW: 4E0 035 729 
       Component: Interfacebox    H43 4610  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 303JV057509926
       Coding: 0001003
       Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
       VCID: 316935A9A8AD62A9D05-8064
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 609 E
       Component: Bedienteil MMIC6H08 0050
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000257377
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0119.10.050000000100010405˙
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 010405˙
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 4F0-910-043.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 043     HW: 4F1 820 043 S
       Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH12 0160  
       Revision: 00000027    Serial number: 00000030065182
       Coding: 0524582
       Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
       VCID: 5BB5B7019AA1B8F95A9-800E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 279 D    HW: 4F0 907 279 
       Component: ILM Fahrer      H15 0190  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 4F0907279     
       Coding: 0014123
       Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: 2A5B22C5857B117111F-807F
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F1 910 113   Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer AudiC6  H05 0150  
       Coding: 00062736
       Shop #: WSC 02335  
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 910 557   Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
       Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH10 0050  
       Coding: 00141886
       Shop #: WSC 02335  
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 0E: Media Player 1        Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 111 F    HW: 4E0 035 111 A
       Component: CD-Changer      H44 0470  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ5ZBE7254024
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 1C37F41DDF2FFFC1933-8049
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 0F: Digital Radio        Labels: 4E0-910-593-SIR.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 593 D    HW: 4E0 035 593 
       Component: SDAR SIRIUS     H04 0670  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ4Z7E1017516
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 285FD8CD9B77236107B-807D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 4F0-910-655-8R.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 655 F    HW: 4F0 959 655 A
       Component: 66 AIRBAG AUDI8RH29 0300  
       Revision: 12H29000    Serial number: 00359D0A65GO  
       Coding: 0013878
       Shop #: WSC 23190 444 61386
       VCID: 2A5B22C5857B117111F-807F
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 339 A
       Component: BF-Gewichtsens. H02 0050
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6332CSME0C7E1F50F
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6342CSME0C7E1F36K
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6352QSME024C26159
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 6362QSME0243344B9
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63734SME06662D61+
    
       Subsystem 7 - Serial number: 63834SME06161C77%
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 4F0-910-549.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 549     HW: 4F0 953 549 A
       Component: Lenksäulenmodul H07 0230  
       Revision: 00H07000    Serial number: 90025052870543
       Coding: 0002042
       Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
       VCID: 66C396F551E3F511F57-8033
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
       Component: Lenkradmodul    H07 0080
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 4F0-910-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 930 A    HW: 4F0 920 980 N
       Component: KOMBIINSTR. M73 H16 0630  
       Revision: 00200000    Serial number: 4PY390LA5     
       Coding: 2129263
       Shop #: WSC 46471 000 1048576
       VCID: 2149C5E9F84DD229405-8074
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 4F0-910-468.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 468 A    HW: 4F0 907 468 D
       Component: Gateway         H11 0070  
       Revision: 11          Serial number: 1300805A218307
       Coding: ECFE73CD1B7906
       Shop #: WSC 23190 444 53268
       VCID: 275DDBF196692C190E1-8072
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 760     HW: 4F0 959 760 
       Component: Sitzmemory FS   H04 0050  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000896400
       Coding: 0082954
       Shop #: WSC 02334 785 00200
       VCID: 61C985E9B8CD9229005-8034
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 4E0-910-88x-37.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 888 M    HW: 4E0 919 887 C
       Component: MNS US          H45 1100  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 355J3057555969
       Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
       VCID: 387F088D4BD7B3E197B-806D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 4F0-910-793-42.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 793 E    HW: 4F0 959 793 E
       Component: TSG FA          H12 0080  
       Revision: 00-00000    
       Coding: 0052971
       Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
       VCID: 2C5724DD8F8F0F41E33-8079
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 4F0-910-289.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 289 B    HW: 4F0 907 289 B
       Component: Komfortgeraet   H18 0130  
       Revision: 01300018    Serial number: 01007799940000
       Coding: 7764541
       Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: 2959DDC9807D1A69185-807C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 4F0-910-223-BO.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 223 J    HW: 4F0 035 223 G
       Component: DSP-High C6     H09 0240  
       Revision: PROD_01     Serial number: 00000000701842
       Coding: 0000156
       Shop #: WSC 23190 444 84591
       VCID: 2541D1F9EC653E093CD-8070
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II        Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 280     HW: 4F0 907 280 B
       Component: ILM Beifahrer   H10 0080  
       Revision:             Serial number: 00000000009266
       Coding: 0002114
       Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
       VCID: 5EB3BE1589B3ADD13D7-800B
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 4F0-910-793-52.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 793 E    HW: 4F0 959 792 E
       Component: TSG BF          H12 0080  
       Revision: 00-00000    
       Coding: 0052971
       Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
       VCID: 2C5724DD8F8F0F41E33-8079
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 4F0-910-801.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 801     HW: 4F0 907 801 
       Component: EPB  C63C0030   H03 0030  
       Revision: C63C0030    
       Coding: 0005022
       Shop #: WSC 23190 444 84591
       VCID: 5DB1B91984B5B6C924D-8008
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4F0-910-357.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 357 C    HW: 4F0 907 357 C
       Component: AFS 1           H01 0030  
       Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000016
       Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
       VCID: 2643D6F591633511357-8073
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 941 329 B
       Component: AFS-Modul links H02 0020
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 941 329 B
       Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH02 0020
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 4E0-910-541.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 541 T    HW: 4E0 035 541 T
       Component: TUNER EU/US/RDW H42 0630  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 394J%057629654
       Coding: 0000002
       Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
       VCID: 316935A9A8AD62A9D05-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 61: Battery Regul.        Labels: 4F0-910-181.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 181 E    HW: 4F0 915 181 A
       Component: J0644 BEM       H12 0590  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000140163
       Shop #: WSC 23190 444 53531
       VCID: 2345CFE1E251C039529-8076
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 915 105 E
       Component: von VA0  0386995264       
       Coding: 344630393135313035452056413030333836393935323634
       Shop #: WSC 23190 444 185023
    
    2 Faults Found:
    02272 - Quiescent Current Stage 1 
                000 -  -  - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 4
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 132983 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.10.14
                        Time: 15:27:48
    
    02273 - Quiescent Current Stage 2 
                000 -  -  - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100000
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 133426 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2014.10.30
                        Time: 09:55:25
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 4F0-910-795.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 795 E    HW: 4F0 959 795 E
       Component: TSG HL          H21 0050  
       Coding: 0052778
       Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
       VCID: 2E532ED5B9937D51CD7-807B
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 65: Tire Pressure        Labels: 4F0-910-273-BA.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 273     HW: 4F0 907 273 
       Component: Reifendruck 3   H04 0080  
       Revision: 00040080    Serial number: 00000700011902
       Coding: 0062221
       Shop #: WSC 02334 785 00200
       VCID: 60CF80EDB3C79B210FB-8035
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 67: Voice Control        Labels: 4E0-910-75x-67.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 754 Q    HW: 4E0 035 753 A
       Component: SDS 3501 US     H45 0630  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000510120087
       Shop #: WSC 12336 024 394758
       VCID: 34673CBD57BF5781BB3-8061
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6D: Trunk Elect.        Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 4F9 910 591     HW: 4F9 827 851 B
       Component: ValeoHeckdeckel H18 0280  
       Revision: --H18001    Serial number: E5030000B     
       Shop #: WSC 23250 431 715754
       VCID: 6CD7E4DD4F0FCF41A33-8039
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F9 910 592 
       Component: ValeoHeckdeckel H25 0290
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: E5030100B     
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: RD18.12.13--H25001001B0031˙
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 1B0031˙
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 4F0-910-795.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 795 E    HW: 4F0 959 794 E
       Component: TSG HR          H21 0050  
       Coding: 0052778
       Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
       VCID: 2E532ED5B9937D51CD7-807B
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 4Fx-910-283.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 283 B    HW: 4F0 919 283 B
       Component: Parkhilfe 4-Kan H09 0030  
       Revision: 00H09000    Serial number: 11720528704177
       Coding: 0001216
       Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
       VCID: 2345CFE1E251C039529-8076
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 4E0-910-336.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 336 H    HW: 4E0 862 335 
       Component: Handyvorb2      H11 1130  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000007520835
       Coding: 0010900
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 285FD8CD9B77236107B-807D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:42)--------------------------
    Last edited by Uwe; 11-18-2014 at 08:30 PM. Reason: Wrapped CODE tags around Auto-Scan

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    Welcome!
    Thoroughly researched, methodically approached, and an Auto-Scan in the post - bravo


    Quote Originally Posted by PDX-A6 Avant View Post
    I next checked 07-Display > Adaptation Channel 11 and noted that the current value is 52. From the list of values in the VCDS pop-up window it appears that "32 Climate Control Comfort installed" is selected (I'm guessing that, if one can only get to 52 by including a 32, then it is selected).

    Anyone have any suggestions?
    That all sounds correct.
    Did you reboot MMI after making the change in the hidden menu, and did you have to change channel 11 at all ?


    Quote Originally Posted by PDX-A6 Avant View Post
    PS - Should I worry about the DTC’s in 61- Battery Regulator?
    That's just the vehicle shutting things down to preserve the battery, and locking it when you turn it off will put things to sleep faster.
    I wouldn't worry about it unless your battery is approaching 5 years old or the MMI battery gauge shows anything other than 100%.


    2012 A8L 4.2 Oolong/Titanium. Premium, LED, Driver assist, Rear seat comfort, Dual pane, Alcantara, Panorama

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    Thanks, Jakematic.

    I did not change anything in channel 11 because it looked like it had the right coding for climate control. I've only changed the MMI hidden menu at this point. I haven't done a reboot on the MMI. It's been several days -- wouldn't the MMI "reboot" overnight? How would I perform a reboot?

    Thanks for your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PDX-A6 Avant View Post
    It's been several days -- wouldn't the MMI "reboot" overnight?
    Nope. It never reboots unless there is an error, power is cut, or you force it to.
    Any time you make a change in the hidden menu or to module 07 you should reboot it.


    Quote Originally Posted by PDX-A6 Avant View Post
    How would I perform a reboot?


    2012 A8L 4.2 Oolong/Titanium. Premium, LED, Driver assist, Rear seat comfort, Dual pane, Alcantara, Panorama

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    I did the MMI reboot and there was no change. I looked up a log from an auto-scan that was done before I updated the MMI software. The "coding" for 07-Display was 0000003 and now it is 0001003. How does the "coding" shown on the auto-scan relate to the long code and adaptation channels code? I'm finding this all quite confusing.

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