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    Polo 6R/6C 1.4 TDI Trip computer buttons

    Greetings guys , I have a Polo 1.4 TDI .
    on the right of the steering wheel , it has no buttons for trip computer like other models
    I retrofited one . Front and rear washers work ok , but not the buttons
    I have an autoscan . Can the Polo have the trip computer work ? Or is it an Instrument cluster limitation.
    THank you
    Code:
    Tuesday,08,January,2019,12:31:08:19672
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.9.0.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4436.4
    Data version: 20180927 DS296.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    Dealer/Shop Name:
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ6RZFY316138   License Plate:
    Mileage: 76362km-47449mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 6R-VW26 (6C0)
    Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 17 19 44 5F
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ6RZFY316138   Mileage: 76362km-47449miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CUSA)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 04B 997 027     HW: 04B 907 445 
       Component: R3 1.4l TDI   H08 9430  
       Revision: 21006001    
       Coding: 01114012420400080000
       Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM14TDI03004B997027 004006
       ROD: EV_ECM14TDI03004B997027G.rod
       VCID: 68884F6272F716C7365-803C
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: N/A
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP90.clb
       Part No SW: 6C0 907 379 G    HW: 6R0 907 379 BA
       Component: ESP9.0i       H03 0003  
       Serial number: 08508856150412
       Coding: 21DD2485892433C60915006C0059842491CC90000007C9098F00
       Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26 100018
       ROD: EV_Brake1ESP90iBOSCHPQ26.rod
       VCID: 3332E80E7BB1A51F537-8066
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 6C0-820-045.clb
       Part No SW: 6C0 820 045     HW: 6C0 820 045 
       Component: AC Manuell    H03 0108  
       Serial number:  1503261B-1955
       Coding: 201000000000000200
       Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManueKMMValeoPQ26 002001
       ROD: EV_ACManueKMMValeoPQ26.rod
       VCID: 5CE063B2B6AF4A67A2D-8008
    
    1 Fault Found:
    1048834 - Functional Limitation due to Energy Management 
              B10CD 00 [012] -  - 
              [Funktionseinschrδnkung  durch Energiemanagment]
              Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 101
                        Mileage: 76299 km
                        Date: 2019.01.05
                        Time: 21:47:00
    
                        Voltage terminal 30: 14.8 V
                        Auxiliary heater: in stages-Enabling for auxiliary heater operation: no_enabling
                        Auxiliary heater: in stages-Act.val.: 0
                        Auxiliary heater: in stages-Specified value: 3
                        Auxiliary heater: in stages-Specified value for control: 0
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:* Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 6C0 937 087 B    HW: 6C0 937 087 
       Component: BCM PQ26 Me4R H07 0065  
       Serial number: 001088055146
       Coding: 00000840401300534B844000400703000000580051010000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
       ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMA0 004008
       ROD: EV_MQBA0.rod
       VCID: 2D06FE769D95F3EF053-8078
    
       Drivers Door Control Module: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AT    HW: 6R0 959 801 AT  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
       Component: J386__TSG_FT  003 8612 
       Serial number: KU0KU019031550783227
       Coding: 0000A0
    
       Front Passengers Door Control Module: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 BE    HW: 6R0 959 802 BE  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
       Component: J387__TSG_BT  003 8612 
       Serial number: KU0KU024031550834488
       Coding: 1000A0
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 6C0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 6C0 959 655 E    HW: 6C0 959 655 E
       Component: VW20Airbag00B 001 0360  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 003RH000617I
       Coding: 88C0C000000000005C000000000800000000
       Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X 001001
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW20BPAVW26X.rod
       VCID: 3536D61675C5BB2F7D3-8060
    
       Side Sensor Driver Front: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 410 820 304 15
       Component: SideSensor_Df  151 0800 
       Serial number: 3575H00BD19E15A3821T
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 410 820 304 15
       Component: SideSensor_Pf  151 0800 
       Serial number: 3585H000828BDAC3D2D4
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 150 504 15
       Component: SideSensor_Dr  1CA 0148 
       Serial number: 3517A00AB1A72834F04F
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
       Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 150 404 15
       Component: SideSensor_Pr  1CA 0148 
       Serial number: 3527A00AD1A728354318
       Coding: 2D2D2D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
       Part No SW: 6C0 920 731 B    HW: 6C0 920 731 B
       Component: KOMBI         110 0290  
       Coding: 0720090021000008000808000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
       ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009040
       ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW26.rod
       VCID: 211E1246D14D278FB1B-8074
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 6C0-909-901-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 6C0 909 901     HW: 6C0 937 087 
       Component: GW MQB A0     H07 0065  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 001088055146
       Coding: 01000008180A590071000000000000000001010000000000000000000000
       Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
       ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewA0Lear 001001
       ROD: EV_GatewA0Lear_001_VW26.rod
       VCID: 6596465685E50BAF0D3-8030
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J792)       Labels:| 6Rx-909-144-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 6C1 909 144 M    HW: 6C1 909 144 D
       Component: EPS_TRW_ALow  312 3211  
       Serial number: PF4M0765
       Coding: 0007
       Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW 011021
       ROD: EV_SteerAssisUDSTRW_011.rod
       VCID: 323CED0A84ABAC17581-8066
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-ENT2.clb
       Part No SW: 6C0 035 885 A    HW: 6C0 035 885 A
       Component: MU-E--ER      820 6230  
       Serial number: 04021500010186
       Coding: 026200003C0000004011000101000000000000040000010000
       Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE 001017
       ROD: EV_MUEnt4CGen2LGE_VW12.rod
       VCID: 270A0C5EBF69D9BFFFF-8072
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 00:32, VBatt start/end: 12.6V/14.9V)-----------
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    I think you might need a different steering wheel controller and suitable coding for both sets of buttons to work. I have a 6R Polo in the family but not had much exploration with it yet. It is also without the right MFSW buttons - I am sure I have seen other forum threads on this subject where owners have retrofitted entirely new wheels. clock spring modules and airbags to get MFSW functionality as the non MFSW wheel has different airbag.

    I might do this on our 6R Polo if it can be done at little expense - where you able to fit the right side button panel without any other changes on the wheel or airbag etc ?

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    Have a look at coding sections of this thread in a UK Polo forum - it might be useful.

    https://uk-polos.net/viewtopic.php?t=54171

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    Thank you for your replies guys. I am talking about the right lever , not msfw buttons . The stock Polo on the right lever has no buttons for Trip computer. I installed one . Evetrything works but the buttons ofcourse
    I have tried some Longcodings but nothing works.
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    Oh sorry for confusion on that. Our 6R does have buttons on the right stalk control which go through basic menus on the cluster for average speed, consumption etc. I will post up an auto scan later today. I think VW classify this as 'midline' package where you get one half of MFSW and basic computer functions but I could be wrong.

    There are extended trip computer functions available with right MFSW panel buttons and corresponding button controller & cluster combinations.

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    Oh I have it on this computer already...

    Code:
    Friday,04,January,2019,11:32:58:30756
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86(Parallels)
    VCDS Version 18.9.0.4  HEX-NET CB: 0.4437.4
    Data version: 20181017 DS296.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ6RZDYxxxxxx   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 91930km-57122mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (6N0)
    Scan: 01 03 04 08 09 15 17 19 25 2E 44 56
    
    VIN: WVWZZZ6RZDYxxxxxx   Mileage: 91930km-57122miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J0000-CFWA)       Labels:. 03P-906-021-CFW.clb
       Part No SW: 03P 906 021 AK    HW: 03P 907 425 A
       Component: R3 1.2 DCM3.7 H09 3317  
       Revision: 11002001    Serial number:               
       Coding: 00114014000500080000
       Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM12TDI03103P906021AK 001005
       ROD: EV_ECM12TDI03103P906021AJ.rod
       VCID: 71AAD168A0D13EC224-8025
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 1110 1000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
       Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 BE    HW: 6R0 907 379 AF
       Component: ESP8.2i front H05 0001  
       Revision: --------    
       Coding: 230224E3416D00B9C42924E282D400821300
       Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
       VCID: 02488EA49977355ACD-8057
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 04: Steering Angle (G085)       Labels:* 6R0-959-654.clb
       Part No SW: 6R0 959 654     HW: 6R0 959 654 
       Component: LENKW.SENSOR  H06 0060  
       Serial number: 090465LJ5000ZR
       Coding: 01
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
       ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
       VCID: 7EB0FA54E18F51BAA9-802B
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 6R0 820 045 N    HW: 6R0 820 045 N
       Component: Man AC        H02 0202  
       Revision: 0003SH02    
       VCID: 393A2948B021B682DC-806D
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 6R0 937 087 K    HW: 6R0 937 087 
       Component: BCM PQ25 H+4  H46 0254  
       Revision: BF046001    Serial number: 0434 266121636
       Coding: 25B029BF08A10000012808002D2B0ED90000410F60060000200000000000
       Shop #: WSC 12469 483 00190
       VCID: 45C255B8CCD9C262A8-8011
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
       Component: RLS 210912 05  54  0403 
       Coding: 03302D
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 AB    HW: 6R0 959 802 AB  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
       Component: J386__TSG_FT  008 1621 
       Serial number: KU0KU020091200018422
       Coding: 18BC30
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 AD    HW: 6R0 959 801 AD  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
       Component: J387__TSG_BT  008 1621 
       Serial number: KU0KU017091200010077
       Coding: 18BC30
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542 C    HW: 5K0 959 542 C
       Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H31 0033 
       Serial number: 0285424             
       Coding: 020000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 K    HW: 6R0 959 655 K
       Component: VW10Airbag01X H10 0020  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 003GX01EFA8E
       Coding: 003158
       Shop #: WSC 01383 785 00200
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250.rod
       VCID: 4AD86684EDC72D1A45-801F
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 3575HRB40511KADSGHBT
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 3585HRB404T1KADSF0UF
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
       Serial number: 3515RRB405H1GLOM6HSP
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
       Serial number: 3525RRB401C4UHC45H7L
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 6R0 920 961 K    HW: 6R0 920 961 K
       Component: KOMBI         H05 0605  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 440A01
       Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
       VCID: 3E303A54A10F91BAE9-806B
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
       Part No SW: 6N0 909 901     HW: 6R0 937 087 
       Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H46 0254  
       Revision: BF046001    
       Coding: 002100
       Shop #: WSC 12469 483 00190
       VCID: 70ACD46CA3DB37CA2B-8025
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H05 0605  
       Serial number:               
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
       VCID: 6A98C6048D07CD1A65-803F
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 2E: Media Player 3 (J650)       Labels:. 5N0-035-342.lbl
       Part No SW: 5N0 035 342 F    HW: 5N0 035 342 F
       Component: SG EXT.PLAYER H18 0546  
       Revision: A1001003    Serial number: 7663521386    
       Coding: 010100
       Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
       VCID: 2A18060445870D1AA5-807F
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
       Part No: 6R0 423 156 C
       Component: LenkhilfeTRW        V278  
       Coding: 11230
       Shop #: WSC 00788  
       VCID: 302C146CF75B77CA6B-8065
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
       Part No SW: 5M0 035 186 L    HW: 5M0 035 186 L
       Component: Radio RCD310  004 0119  
       Revision: 01000001    Serial number: VWZ1Z2M2186438
       Coding: 01000400020001
       Shop #: WSC 00788 648 00255
       VCID: 352225789C3952E238-8061
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:06, VBatt start/end: 14.2V/14.1V)-----------

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    The 6R is a completely different beast from the 6C. Yours is a Polo 6C.
    - Both have the stalk buttons for MFD/MFA wired directly to the cluster resp BCM. There is no SWCM (0x16) or whatever involved.
    - Both have the MFS wired directly to the BCM via LIN. There is no SWCM (0x16) or whatsoever involved.

    TS verify wiring for MFD as in Polo 6C
    T10 = right hand side T10 on stalks
    T10/8 to BCM T73a/16
    T10/9 to BCM T73a/15
    T10/10 to BCM T73a/17

    GND should be present already for other switches.

    Enable byte 1 bit 2 in 0x17 and perhaps something in the BCM.
    Last edited by iichel; 01-09-2019 at 07:19 AM.

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