Golf 7 ACC retrofit success

darkchina811 · Jan 7, 2019

ACC retrofit was completed this morning. when I plugged in the radar, it triggered Component Protection in the Gateway and, of course, in the radar itself. CP was cleared with ODIS online.

I followed the coding/adapt instructions in the famous spanish PDF, everything was pretty much straight forward. one note: it says to code integration for the ACC into the Driving Profile Selection with ODIS. I was able to do it with VCDS, just had to enable EXPERIMENTAL coding. makes sense since that book was written long ago.

the radar NEVER flagged the need for calibration. I made sure the donor car was a Golf to ensure the mounting position is the same. honestly I was surprised that it did not ask for calibration, as the tolerance for the radar position is less than one degree.

I went for two drive tests and it all works fine. now I gotta get used to it, I had never driven with ACC before and it just feels weird sometimes when the car brakes by itself.

below is a current autoscan with no errors at all. I don't like bragging but I am kinda proud, again I did it by myself.

the only note is that the steering wheel buttons are not the right ones, because I didn't know when I bought them, and I got the buttons for the standard steering wheel, while my car has the R/GTI style steering wheel. it all works fine, they just don't fit physically. 5G0 959 442 N would be the correct ones, I have them coming soon.

Code:

Monday,07,January,2019,12:43:11:06888
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.0.4 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4436.4
Data version: 20181017 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Workshop Code: 011 01357 012345

VIN: WVWZZZAUZHW0xxxxx   License Plate:
Mileage: 27505km-17090mi   Repair Order: 

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Chassis Type: AU-VW37 (5Q0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 10 13 15 16 17 18 19 20 42 44 52 5F 65

VIN: WVWZZZAUZHW0xxxxx   Mileage: 27505km-17090miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
20-High Beam Assist. -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-CZCA)       Labels:. 04E-907-309-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 04E 906 027 HB    HW: 04E 907 309 BH
   Component: R4 1.4l TFS   H25 2833  
   Revision: R7H25---    
   Coding: 0119003A23441D082000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM14TFS01104E906027HB 001005
   ROD: EV_ECM14TFS01104E906027HB.rod
   VCID: 6B833BBF03045EDF5B9-803E

   CAN Converter 01: 

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0100 0000

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: 5Q0-907-379-IPB-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 614 517 CC    HW: 5Q0 614 517 AG
   Component: ESC           H62 0637  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 91596000011507
   Coding: 01FA6AA1242219704779060841C62980562498E26082947314205008400903
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB 035019
   ROD: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB_035_VW37.rod
   VCID: 74B120C35E3A81278A3-8020

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5G0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5G0 907 044 BM    HW: 5G0 907 044 BM
   Component: Climatronic   H04 1601  
   Revision: 00001K08    
   Coding: 00020004104111011005004000101022
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00068
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X 006142
   ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X_006_VW37.rod
   VCID: 73B323DF5B34861F939-8026

   Fresh Air Blower Front: 

   Refrigerant Pressure And Temperature Sender: 

   Air quality sensor: 

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:| 5Q0-937-08X-HV1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 937 084 CL    HW: 5Q0 937 084 AN
   Component: BCM MQBAB H   H24 0175  
   Serial number: 01061633700891
   Coding: 00000946C20102FB0B244080B11407281400000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMMQB 015001
   ROD: EV_BCMBOSCH_015.rod
   VCID: 045170030E9AB1A7BA3-8050

   Control Unit For Wiper Motor: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G1 955 119 A    HW: 5G1 955 119 A  Labels: 5QX-955-119-V1.CLB
   Component: WWS    160522  043 0551 
   Serial number:         160601172917
   Coding: 0E4DFD

   Rain Light Recognition Sensor: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 547 B    HW: 5Q0 955 547 B  Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
   Component: RLHS  042 0105 
   Serial number: S5Y17M06D01H13M38S50
   Coding: 06A8DD

   Sensor For Anti Theft Alarm System: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 172     HW: 5Q0 951 172 
   Component: Sensor, DWA  005 0315 
   Serial number: 000000000ZY15028208R

   Alarm horn: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605     HW: 5Q0 951 605 
   Component: Sirene, DWA  004 0311 
   Serial number: 00000000000030139763

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J791)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-298.clb
   Part No SW: 5QA 919 298 C    HW: 5QA 919 298 A
   Component: PLA 3.0 12KH07 0045  
   Serial number: 000308417617145
   Coding: 0271161041
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA2CAU3700000 009037
   ROD: EV_EPHVA2CAU3700000_009_VW37.rod
   VCID: 50F98C538A629D074EB-8004

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-567.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 567 G    HW: 5Q0 907 567 G
   Component: ACC3          H08 0390  
   Serial number: 19021303030627
   Coding: 00000300FE030B
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCBoschMQB 001021
   ROD: EV_ACCBoschMQB_VW37.rod
   VCID: 3FDBBFEF27FC127FA71-806A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5Q0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 655 D    HW: 5Q0 959 655 D
   Component: AirbagVW20    015 0388  
   Serial number: 003F6R1V1W4Y
   Coding: 98CCC000000000005C0000CF004800000065
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X 002130
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW20SMEVW37X.rod
   VCID: 41DFB9175108648FD15-8014

   Side Sensor Driver Front: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 506 16
   Component: SideSensor_Df  001 0887 
   Serial number: 35767000000432B44C1Q
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 001 506 16
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  001 0887 
   Serial number: 358670000008B4C4DB17
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 400 306 16
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  001 6149 
   Serial number: 3516502BB205729313D3
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 105 16
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  001 6149 
   Serial number: 3526502AF2076340F201
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Sensor Driver: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 480 401 106 16
   Component: FrontSensor_D  001 6149 
   Serial number: 35565029B21160C1025X
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5Q0-953-549.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 953 507 FT    HW: 5Q0 953 549 F
   Component: Lenks. Modul  003 0140  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 13061608490829
   Coding: 0400
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSKLOMQB 020002
   ROD: EV_SMLSKLOMQB_VW37.rod
   VCID: 0D4755275DD0F0EFE5D-8058

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
   Part No SW: 5G1 920 750 B    HW: 5G1 920 750 B
   Component: KOMBI         303 8311  
   Coding: 03A501802680000D02883B051401000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB 009051
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB_009_VW37.rod
   VCID: 26150A8BD866A3B7C47-8072

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 18: Aux. Heat (J364)       Labels:| 5Q0-963-272.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 963 272 B    HW: 5Q0 963 272 B
   Component: STH-MQB       006 0069  
   Coding: 1309
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AuxilParkiHeateWOS 002014
   ROD: EV_AuxilParkiHeateWOS.rod
   VCID: 3537DDC715C0D82F7DD-8060

   Remote Control Auxiliary Heater: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3Q0 963 513     HW: 3Q0 963 513 
   Component: R64 D208L  004 0401 
   Serial number: 00000000000000180382

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 5Q0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 530 AM    HW: 5Q0 907 530 F
   Component: GW MQB High   128 1265  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 0004271482
   Coding: 030100043F085700FB000258080F00010001050000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewLear 013020
   ROD: EV_GatewLear_013_VW37.rod
   VCID: 7CA108E3766AC967C23-8028

   Alternator: 

   Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5G0 959 442 K    HW: 5G0 959 442 K  Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H17 0040 
   Serial number: 47170000035760051538
   Coding: 2CFFFF

   Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5Q0 915 181 K    HW: 5Q0 915 181 K
   Component: J367-BDMHella  H10 9070 
   Serial number: 8442320304          

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 20: High Beam Assist. (J844)       Labels:| 8S0-857-511.clb
   Part No SW: 3G0 857 511 AE    HW: 3G0 857 511 AE
   Component: FLA           H10 0003  
   Revision: AA001001    
   Coding: 0101000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
   ASAM Dataset: EV_HighBeamAssisAU33X 001017
   ROD: EV_HighBeamAssisAU33X_VW37.rod
   VCID: 6B833BBF03045EDF5B9-803E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X93-42.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 593 E    HW: 5Q0 959 593 B
   Component: TSG FS        020 0041  
   Serial number: 300516EEU02971
   Coding: 003B0220D000040100001000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 43D3B31F4B14769FC39-8016

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist (J500)       Labels:| 5Q0-909-144.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 909 144 K    HW: 3Q0 909 144 H
   Component: EPS_MQB_ZFLS  506 5072  
   Coding: 8307
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisMQB 013144
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisMQB_013.rod
   VCID: 3A2DCEFB3CDE375790F-806E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387)       Labels:| 5QX-959-X92-52.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 959 592 E    HW: 5Q0 959 592 B
   Component: TSG BFS       020 0041  
   Serial number: 280516EER24731
   Coding: 003B0020DE00040100801000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO 006003
   ROD: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXCONT.rod
   VCID: 42DDB61B540E7F97C8F-8016

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 035 824 B    HW: 3Q0 035 824 B
   Component: MU-S--ER      710 0744  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 02730000AA0000005111000100080A001F0206D40120010003
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CDELP 001001
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CDELP_VW26.rod
   VCID: 2C01F8A3C68A99E7123-8078

   Operating And Display Unit 1: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G6 919 605     HW: 5G6 919 605 
   Component: ABT_Std-2  H50 8120 
   Serial number: VWZ6ZHT1541317      

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502)       Labels: 3AA-907-273.clb
   Part No SW: 5Q0 907 273 B    HW: 5Q0 907 273 
   Component: RDKBERU30     H04 0009  
   Serial number: 40000000018766
   ASAM Dataset: EV_RDKBERU30 006001
   ROD: EV_RDKBERU30_006_VW37.rod
   VCID: 3431E0C31EBAC1274A3-8060

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:49, VBatt start/end: 12.5V/12.5V)-----------

downtime · Jan 7, 2019

Get it calibrated. For me it did not trigger a need for calibration either but it was way off when calibrated. I experienced some hair rising automatic braking with ACC enabled on buses on bus stop etc

Calibration is not that expensive to do.

darkchina811 · Jan 7, 2019

it's not about the money. like all retrofits, when I asked the closest dealer for assistance the looked at me like I came down from Mars.

siLc · Jan 7, 2019

And if the dealer doesn't look at you like an alien, the factory order is to calibrate everything at once. When I asked about calibrating only the lane assist camera, they basically want to do an axle alignment, ACC and lane camera calibration all at once, which was close to 4 hours of work.

downtime · Jan 7, 2019

Yes, because the calibration needs the mechanic to do alignment check before starting the calibration, but they don't have to do the actual wheel alignment if everything is ok. And 4 hours is bullshit. For me it took less than an hour to do the calibration of both ACC and lane assist camera. And you can do only the other one, no need to do both, ODIS has separate guided functions for them. Of course they both are done at the same trouble as the calibration procedure is almost the same for both and the equipment is the same.

Why are people investing a lot of money to retrofit ACC and lane assist camera but are not able to invest 200 € for official calibration??? C'mon guys, these are SAFETY features. After this people are whining why VAG is preventing these retrofits with codes.

If the dealer however does not know what is the calibration procedure, I would stay far away from them. It does not matter if it's a retrofitted or factory original ACC or camera, just follow the guided functions in ODIS and that's it. It guides them visually how to do it.

darkchina811 · Jan 7, 2019

... just remember they never managed to restore FeC in my Gateway. and they didn't try for free.

Detlef Trapp · Jan 7, 2019

Problem is that, as soon as you retrofit a newer module than the ones originally available for your model, ODIS will just refuse to work with your retrofitted module, like in my case where I installed a current camera in my 2015 Alhambra.

darkchina811 · Jan 7, 2019

Detlef Trapp said:
Problem is that, as soon as you retrofit a newer module than the ones originally available for your model, ODIS will just refuse to work with your retrofitted module, like in my case where I installed a current camera in my 2015 Alhambra.

I don't understand how this relates to the ACC discussion, and I am not really sure what you mean. if you are talking about the Gateway, I installed the very one ETKA told me to. it was not ODIS who didn't want to talk to the module. dealer lacked the expertise to perform the FeC restoration. why? I have a theory, but cannot make it public

when I found somebody who knew what he was doing, I heard ODIS and the Gateway sing a duet.

downtime · Jan 8, 2019

Detlef Trapp said:
Problem is that, as soon as you retrofit a newer module than the ones originally available for your model, ODIS will just refuse to work with your retrofitted module, like in my case where I installed a current camera in my 2015 Alhambra.

To clarify a little bit. This means that you cannot code, load software or re-parameterize the unit directly through factory connection using factory code database (or SVM). That it refuses saying the module is not valid for the car. BUT, basic settings, adaptations etc. all work just fine with ODIS as well.

darkchina811 · Jan 28, 2019

https://www.golfmk7.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49365

this guy apparently just retrofitted a flat radar. what the hell?

downtime · Jan 28, 2019

Hmmm.... looks suspicious to me. And he tells you need to have that exact radar he installed so most likely not all flat radars are fine.

darkchina811 · Jan 29, 2019

I asked for explanations and he says he can activate anything, including Drive Profile Select for example, without the need of a FeC code. of course he won't say how, he needs to keep the secret. I am perplexed.

downtime · Jan 29, 2019

I don't believe him.

One thing I read that for MIB system FeCs it is apparently possible that if you have online FaZIT access and you know the donor car VIN from where the MIB system is from. It is possible to search the FeCs with the donor car VIN from database and reassign those FeCs to your cars VIN number. This will then return these new FeCs to your MIB by using the appropriate function in ODIS.

Now I don't know how accurate this information is and is it possible to do this all FeCs including ACC and drive profile.

apial · Jan 29, 2019

downtime said:
I don't believe him.

One thing I read that for MIB system FeCs it is apparently possible that if you have online FaZIT access and you know the donor car VIN from where the MIB system is from. It is possible to search the FeCs with the donor car VIN from database and reassign those FeCs to your cars VIN number. This will then return these new FeCs to your MIB by using the appropriate function in ODIS.

Now I don't know how accurate this information is and is it possible to do this all FeCs including ACC and drive profile.

I had exactly the same thought that this is how it must work (if it really works somehow).
I dont see a specific option in ODIS so far to transfer from VIN A to VIN B only from "VIN a Old Module" to "VIN a new module". However, there are ways to ignore the automatic VIN detection in ODIS and specify another VIN.

My theory is that if you have a Virgin Gateway and ACC and use a VIN identification from another car which had the feature, you might be able to restore the FEC via FAZIT to the brand new modules.

I found a virgin ACC module and thinking of buying it. Gateway is not that expensive - maybe worth the shot.

darkchina811 · Jan 29, 2019

so if this FeC code transfer is possible between VINs, then he must have a database of demolished cars that had this and that feature. it makes sense and it cannot be any way different.

apial · Jan 29, 2019

darkchina811 said:
so if this FeC code transfer is possible between VINs, then he must have a database of demolished cars that had this and that feature. it makes sense and it cannot be any way different.

I dont think you would even need a DB of demolished cars. In my theory, you identify the car with another VIN which has ACC (VINs are visible for all cars in the US, so you can just go on Ebay and find a car with this feature) and a virgin gateway and ACC. VW will check their DB and restore FECs for the specific modules with functions of the "wrong" VIN. It will not know that the car is not the car, so VW will not change anything in their DB for your or the donors VIN but just reload the FECs onto the modules.

Again, all total theory but this is the only way it somehow makes sense to me - which doesnt mean I am right

I will have to try but need to get the modules first, maybe I "just" start with the Gateway as its cheap and verify the FECs its received afterwards comparing it to the original Gateway.

Uwe · Jan 29, 2019

You guys realize if this theory is correct and you talk about it in an open forum, VW is likely to take steps to close this loophole, right?

-Uwe-

golfi_vend · Jan 29, 2019

You can't do FEC without CP and by this time CP already knows VIN. You also can't put another VIN as Signature will fail.

apial · Jan 29, 2019

Uwe said:
You guys realize if this theory is correct and you talk about it in an open forum, VW is likely to take steps to close this loophole, right?

-Uwe-

I guess we are far away from discovering specifics but as we already see 2 examples in different forums from different people, there must be a way and its likely through ODIS. Need to ask my wife to give me some playtime with her Tiguan and my kids to leave me alone

apial · Jan 29, 2019

golfi_vend said:
You can't do FEC without CP and by this time CP already knows VIN. You also can't put another VIN as Signature will fail.

With Ford, the VIN is stored in the ECM and Gateway and can be changed via IDS (which has to be an option in case both modules are damaged and need replacement, the car could not be identified by IDS anymore) - how is the design for Volkswagen?

Golf 7 ACC retrofit success

Verified VCDS User

Verified VCDS User

Verified VCDS User

Verified VCDS User

Verified VCDS User

Verified VCDS User

VCDS Distributor

Verified VCDS User

Verified VCDS User

Verified VCDS User

Verified VCDS User

Verified VCDS User

Verified VCDS User

Verified VCDS User

Verified VCDS User

Verified VCDS User

Benevolent Dictator

Verified VCDS User

Verified VCDS User

Verified VCDS User