2002 Audi A4 B6 CCM

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Larhal

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Hi All,

I was looking to get replacement Keys for my A4. A locksmith stated that the B7 keys would work.

Long story short he cam cut 2 B7 keys, programmed the chips but cannot program the remotes.

In further investigation on numerous Audi sites I found the B7 key can be programmed for the 2003 and above. I seems that the 2002 has a different CCM that wont accept the commands form the B7 remote fob. So no charge to me from Locksmith as he failed to deliver.

My CCM module is 8E 959 433 AD.

I also read that some have changed the CCM with a Newer one, from a 2003 or above and the remote works. Yes they had to re program it with the values from the old one.

My question is what module can I use for a upgrade?

Any help would be certainly appreciated.


After posting maybe this belongs in retrofits.


Thanks Larhal



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 Saturday,29,December,2018,13:27:16:49418
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.0.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4437.4
Data version: 20180927 DS296.0
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VIN: WAUZZZ8E32A200477   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 8E (8E - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B6/B7 (2001 > 2008))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 25 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65
          67 69 75 76 77
 
VIN: WAUZZZ8E32A200477   Mileage: 211870km-131649miles
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06B-906-018-AVJ.lbl
   Part No SW: 8E0 909 518 M    HW: 8E0 909 018 
   Component: 1.8L R4/5VT         0001  
   Coding: 0011501
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 08192
   VCID: 3A2DCF2C60438977901-5160

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0100 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8E0-614-517.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 614 517 
   Component: ABS/ESP front       1726  
   Coding: 04275
   Shop #: WSC 06435  
   VCID: 65974C50BC7DD68F0D3-51F2

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 820 043 
   Component:   A4 Klimaautomat   0712  
   Coding: 00000
   Shop #: WSC 63351  
   VCID: 5EE563BC992B8557CC9-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 8E0-907-279-8E2.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 907 279 C
   Component: int. Lastmodul  NDL 0203  
   Coding: 00002
   Shop #: WSC 63351  
   VCID: 323DE70CBD337137581-4B00

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8E0-959-655-84.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 959 655 
   Component: Airbag 8.4E         4001  
   Coding: 0010602
   Shop #: WSC 63351 000 00000
   VCID: 74B1211402A73F078AD-5160

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 953 549 F
   Component: Lenksáulenmodul     0308  
   Coding: 00001
   Shop #: WSC 63351  
   VCID: 3635DB1C515B6D17749-4B00

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8E2.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 920 950 G
   Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. RB4 D26  
   Coding: 00400
   Shop #: WSC 00260  
   VCID: 2D07F470A40D2ECF053-5160
   WAUZZZ8E32A200477     AUZ6Z0A0309521

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 8E0-959-433-MIN.clb
   Part No: 8E0 959 433 AD
   Component: Komfortgerát T85    0315  
   Coding: 06848
   Shop #: WSC 63351  
   VCID: 73B3220802A9383F937-4B00

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E2959802B
   Component: Tõrsteuer.FS BRM 0002  

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E2959801B
   Component: Tõrsteuer.BF BRM 0002  

5 Faults Found:
01561 - Rear left door 
            59-10 - Can't Unlock - Intermittent
01561 - Rear left door 
            61-10 - Won't De-Safe - Intermittent
01562 - Rear right door 
            59-10 - Can't Unlock - Intermittent
01562 - Rear right door 
            61-00 - Won't De-Safe
01559 - Drivers Door 
            61-00 - Won't De-Safe

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 8E0 035 186 
   Component: concert II  GRO    0007  
   Coding: 00001
   Shop #: WSC 63351  
   VCID: 64915154B777AF871AD-4B1E

1 Fault Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
            49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

End----(Elapsed Time: 05:31, VBatt start/end: 12.2V/12.0V. VIgn 11.9V)-----
 
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Since you're asking about retrofitting a newer CCM, I'm moving this thread from Tweaks to Retrofits.

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Hi All,

Ok so I did some research and experiments.

The B7 keys are on 434 frequency. the B6 Keys are on 433.92 frequency. The CCM for my year will not communicate with the 434 frequency. so the fact is you cannot use a B7 key fob to communicate with a B6 CCM.

I was not able to acquirer a later B6 CCM as supposedly they are on 434 frequency. I will experiment further and update results.
 
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I just did a few B7 keys/remotes for my B6 S4. You have to make sure the remotes are from an A4 or A3. A6 ones will not work.

Kevin
 
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