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    Question 2002 Audi A4 B6 CCM

    Hi All,

    I was looking to get replacement Keys for my A4. A locksmith stated that the B7 keys would work.

    Long story short he cam cut 2 B7 keys, programmed the chips but cannot program the remotes.

    In further investigation on numerous Audi sites I found the B7 key can be programmed for the 2003 and above. I seems that the 2002 has a different CCM that wont accept the commands form the B7 remote fob. So no charge to me from Locksmith as he failed to deliver.

    My CCM module is 8E 959 433 AD.

    I also read that some have changed the CCM with a Newer one, from a 2003 or above and the remote works. Yes they had to re program it with the values from the old one.

    My question is what module can I use for a upgrade?

    Any help would be certainly appreciated.


    After posting maybe this belongs in retrofits.


    Thanks Larhal



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     Saturday,29,December,2018,13:27:16:49418
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.9.0.2 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4437.4
    Data version: 20180927 DS296.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WAUZZZ8E32A200477   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 8E (8E - Audi A4/S4/RS4 B6/B7 (2001 > 2008))
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 0F 11 15 16 17 18 25 36 37 45 46 55 56 57 65
              67 69 75 76 77
     
    VIN: WAUZZZ8E32A200477   Mileage: 211870km-131649miles
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06B-906-018-AVJ.lbl
       Part No SW: 8E0 909 518 M    HW: 8E0 909 018 
       Component: 1.8L R4/5VT         0001  
       Coding: 0011501
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 08192
       VCID: 3A2DCF2C60438977901-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0100 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 8E0-614-517.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 614 517 
       Component: ABS/ESP front       1726  
       Coding: 04275
       Shop #: WSC 06435  
       VCID: 65974C50BC7DD68F0D3-51F2
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8E0-820-043.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 820 043 
       Component:   A4 Klimaautomat   0712  
       Coding: 00000
       Shop #: WSC 63351  
       VCID: 5EE563BC992B8557CC9-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 8E0-907-279-8E2.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 907 279 C
       Component: int. Lastmodul  NDL 0203  
       Coding: 00002
       Shop #: WSC 63351  
       VCID: 323DE70CBD337137581-4B00
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8E0-959-655-84.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 959 655 
       Component: Airbag 8.4E         4001  
       Coding: 0010602
       Shop #: WSC 63351 000 00000
       VCID: 74B1211402A73F078AD-5160
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 8E0-953-549.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 953 549 F
       Component: Lenksáulenmodul     0308  
       Coding: 00001
       Shop #: WSC 63351  
       VCID: 3635DB1C515B6D17749-4B00
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8E0-920-9xx-8E2.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 920 950 G
       Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS. RB4 D26  
       Coding: 00400
       Shop #: WSC 00260  
       VCID: 2D07F470A40D2ECF053-5160
       WAUZZZ8E32A200477     AUZ6Z0A0309521
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 8E0-959-433-MIN.clb
       Part No: 8E0 959 433 AD
       Component: Komfortgerát T85    0315  
       Coding: 06848
       Shop #: WSC 63351  
       VCID: 73B3220802A9383F937-4B00
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8E2959802B
       Component: Tőrsteuer.FS BRM 0002  
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 8E2959801B
       Component: Tőrsteuer.BF BRM 0002  
    
    5 Faults Found:
    01561 - Rear left door 
                59-10 - Can't Unlock - Intermittent
    01561 - Rear left door 
                61-10 - Won't De-Safe - Intermittent
    01562 - Rear right door 
                59-10 - Can't Unlock - Intermittent
    01562 - Rear right door 
                61-00 - Won't De-Safe
    01559 - Drivers Door 
                61-00 - Won't De-Safe
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-1xx-56.lbl
       Part No: 8E0 035 186 
       Component: concert II  GRO    0007  
       Coding: 00001
       Shop #: WSC 63351  
       VCID: 64915154B777AF871AD-4B1E
    
    1 Fault Found:
    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
                49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
    
    End----(Elapsed Time: 05:31, VBatt start/end: 12.2V/12.0V. VIgn 11.9V)-----
    Last edited by Larhal; 01-05-2019 at 10:02 AM.

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    Since you're asking about retrofitting a newer CCM, I'm moving this thread from Tweaks to Retrofits.

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    Hi All,

    Ok so I did some research and experiments.

    The B7 keys are on 434 frequency. the B6 Keys are on 433.92 frequency. The CCM for my year will not communicate with the 434 frequency. so the fact is you cannot use a B7 key fob to communicate with a B6 CCM.

    I was not able to acquirer a later B6 CCM as supposedly they are on 434 frequency. I will experiment further and update results.

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