VW Polo AW Ambient Lighting Colour Change

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I have a VW Polo AW which has ambient lighting in the dash and front door cards and the colour is set at white...

I would like to change that to other colours,is this possible?if so what coding is required to do this and also have an option in the 5F (Background Lighting)

https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthread.php?16288-Volkswagen-Polo-5DR-1-0TSI-115-SEL-DSG

Here is a scan
Code:
Saturday,03,November,2018,11:27:52:03210
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 18.9.0.2  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4436.4
Data version: 20180927 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: VCDS
Workshop Code: 444 03743 000001

VIN: WVWZZZAWZKU007157   License Plate: NEW POLO BEFORE BUYING
Mileage: 34km-21mi   Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: AW-VW27 (3Q0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 13 15 17 19 44 5F CA

VIN: WVWZZZAWZKU007157   Mileage: 34km-21miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
13-Auto Dist. Reg -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
CA-Sunroof -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (J623-DKRF)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 04C 906 025 M    HW: 04C 907 309 BB
   Component: R3 1.0l TFS   H20 6196  
   Revision: D7H20000    
   Coding: 0125003223041D080000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM10TFS01104C906025M 002003
   ROD: EV_ECM10TFS011_AU27.rod
   VCID: 2A0D01F4AC7FE1F7E01-807E

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0010 0001

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans (J743)       Labels: 0CW-927-769.clb
   Part No SW: 0CW 300 042 D    HW: 0AM 927 769 E
   Component: GSG DQ200G2_M H05 1606  
   Revision: 00005008    Serial number: CU501806176987
   Coding: 0014
   Shop #: WSC 17734 418 534600
   ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ200021 001001
   ROD: EV_TCMDQ200021_VW27.rod
   VCID: 372B28806FCD4C1F6FF-8062

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 2Q0 614 517 AD    HW: 2Q0 614 517 N
   Component: ESC_base_vFGS H23 0223  
   Serial number: 08514728180704
   Coding: 0A034C64354150B432FDAC1B24E142A649124D26226A242444541254452442659248B26444562424222A482AA251D64A3D8A6B52BC
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1BOSCHESPMQBA0 004032
   ROD: EV_Brake1BOSCHESPMQBA0_VW27.rod
   VCID: 70B9D39C4A23DB276E5-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:* Redir Fail!
   Part No SW: 2G0 907 044 L    HW: 2G0 907 044 L
   Component: Climatronic   H03 0501  
   Coding: 0121000008000100011008000244010D0000000000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACClimaBHBMQBA0 004017
   ROD: EV_ACClimaBHBMQBA0_VW27.rod
   VCID: 2D070AE89D91F6CF053-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: None
   Part No SW: 2Q0 937 090 A    HW: 2Q0 937 090 
   Component: BCM A0 Std+   H98 0926  
   Serial number: 00001817500231
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_BCMA0 204001
   ROD: EV_BCMA0_204.rod
   VCID: 3039139C8AA39B272E5-8064

   Rain Light Recognition Sensor: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5Q0 955 547 B    HW: 5Q0 955 547 B  Labels: 5Q0-955-547.CLB
   Component: RLHS  052 0107 
   Serial number: SAY18M07D11H03M24S29
   Coding: 0038DD

   Drivers Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 2Q2 959 881 D    HW: 2Q2 959 881 D
   Component: FHSG_DRV  001 0002 
   Serial number: 00000000000021749146
   Coding: 1F0037

   Front Passengers Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 2Q2 959 882 D    HW: 2Q2 959 882 D
   Component: FHSG_PSG  001 0002 
   Serial number: 00000000000021753752
   Coding: 058037

   Sensor For Anti Theft Alarm System: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 172     HW: 5Q0 951 172 
   Component: Sensor, DWA  005 0316 
   Serial number: 000000000ZY181501S2X

   Alarm horn: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5Q0 951 605 A    HW: 5Q0 951 605 A
   Component: Sirene, DWA  005 0314 
   Serial number: 00000000000099190056

   Drivers Door Rear Control Module: 
   Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 812 D    HW: 5Q0 959 812 D
   Component: FOND_FHSG_DRV  006 0007 
   Serial number: 00000000000022454493
   Coding: 1F0000

   Passengers Rear Door Control Module: 
   Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 5Q0 959 811 D    HW: 5Q0 959 811 D
   Component: FOND_FHSG_PSG  006 0007 
   Serial number: 00000000000022520572
   Coding: 070000

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 5Q0-919-294.clb
   Part No SW: 5QA 919 294 C    HW: 5QA 919 294 
   Component: PDC 8 KanalH07 0050  
   Serial number: 000308418018181
   Coding: 0471051011
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000 009039
   ROD: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000_009_VW27.rod
   VCID: 4CC1676C064BDFC732D-8018

No fault code found.

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Address 13: Auto Dist. Reg (J428)       Labels:| 2Q0-907-572.clb
   Part No SW: 2Q0 907 572 M    HW: 2Q0 907 572 B
   Component: ACCCONTIMQB   H02 0233  
   Coding: 3200600240FF8748949C8145004087
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_ACCMRRCONTIVW376 002012
   ROD: EV_ACCMRRCONTIVW376_002.rod
   VCID: 3E253DA440F77D57AC9-806A

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 2Q0 959 655 AG    HW: 2Q0 959 655 AG
   Component: VW22Airbag    010 0248  
   Revision: --------    
   Coding: 88CCC0C0000000005C5400CF008800000065
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW22BPAVW27X 001010
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW22BPAVW27X.rod
   VCID: 025D8954748FD9B7881-8056

   Side Sensor Driver Front: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 061 207 18
   Component: SideSensor_Df  1E2 0887 
   Serial number: 3577Y20B127578D2E47A
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Front: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 061 207 18
   Component: SideSensor_Pf  1E2 0887 
   Serial number: 3587Y20B127578D3D235
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Driver Rear: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 0B0 707 18
   Component: SideSensor_Dr  1C7 0148 
   Serial number: 351778299293EDC5510T
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Side Sensor Passenger Rear: 
   Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 0B0 707 18
   Component: SideSensor_Pr  1C7 0148 
   Serial number: 35277829B293EDC3E465
   Coding: 2D2D2D

   Front Sensor Driver: 
   Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: -----------    HW: 442 132 705 18
   Component: FrontSensor_D  290 118A 
   Serial number: 355AG11B5298CB11C69%
   Coding: 2D2D2D

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5G0-920-XXX-17.clb-SRI3
   Part No SW: 2G0 920 940 B    HW: 2G0 920 940 B
   Component: KOMBI         310 2500  
   Coding: 24A4010821802600018862011001000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBA0 001029
   ROD: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBA0_VW27.rod
   VCID: 2313ECD0CB5530BFA37-8076

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:| 3Q0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 907 530 Q    HW: 3Q0 907 530 C
   Component: GW MQB High   518 5344  
   Serial number: 14061811602488
   Coding: 030100046F085600FA0002481C0F00010001070000000000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_GatewNF 013023
   ROD: EV_GatewNF_VW27.rod
   VCID: 3D273AA84DF1664FB53-8068

   Alternator: 
   Component: 1-00-02-00-04 

   Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 2G0 959 442 K    HW: 2G0 959 442 K
   Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H02 0052 
   Serial number: 39170002831130077484
   Coding: 25FFFF

   Battery Monitoring Control Module: 
   Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 2Q0 915 181     HW: 2Q0 915 181 
   Component: J367-BDMBOSCH  H02 2011 
   Serial number: 10088840           

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist (J792)       Labels:* None
   Part No SW: 2Q2 909 144 J    HW: 2Q2 909 144 F
   Component: TRW_G4L_MQBA0 620 6030  
   Serial number: 0646183CB4J1942
   Coding: 00000000000000000101020101000101000001
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SteerAssisTRWG4LMQBA0 009014
   ROD: EV_SteerAssisTRWG4LMQBA0_009.rod
   VCID: 3A2D31B45CDF5177901-806E

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
   Part No SW: 3Q0 035 874 C    HW: 3Q0 035 874 C
   Component: MU-S-ND-ER    853 0890  
   Serial number:               
   Coding: 02720001BE00000041110101008808001F0500C601200100CF
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CDELP 001001
   ROD: EV_MUStd4CDELP_VW27.rod
   VCID: 323D199484AFA937581-8066

   Operating And Display Unit 1: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5G6 919 605 B    HW: 5G6 919 605 B
   Component: ABT_Std-2_Nav  H52 8130 
   Serial number: VWZ6ZHV1564256     

No fault code found.

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Address CA: Sunroof (J245)       Labels:| 4M0-907-594.clb
   Part No SW: 4M0 907 594 H    HW: 4M0 907 594 
   Component: SAD_STG_1     014 0005  
   Coding: 508000727001
   Shop #: WSC 31414 790 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SunRoofCONTIAU736 006008
   ROD: EV_SunRoofCONTIAU736_006.rod
   VCID: 3B2334B053E5687F8B7-806E

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:18, VBatt start/end: 12.2V/12.1V)-----------
 
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After test changing one of the BCM Adaption channels i get this screen...
https://photos.app.goo.gl/cV9rzLgpA1bDUena7

These are from my BCM
IDE02957-ENG154500-Ambient lighting-Ambience_borders_front,installed ,8
IDE02957-ENG133384-Ambient lighting-Ambient_Farbliste_HMI,not active ,8
IDE02957-ENG154513-Ambient lighting-Ambiente_Farbwahl_FPA_waehlbare_Kopplung,not active ,8
IDE02957-ENG154514-Ambient lighting-Ambiente_Farbwahl_FPA_waehlbare_Kopplung_Status_hmi_default,not active ,8
IDE02957-ENG149168-Ambient lighting-Ambientelicht_mit_raste_heckdeckel,Enabled ,8
IDE02957-ENG126836-Ambient lighting-Ambientemenue mit alle Zonen,not active ,8
IDE02957-ENG126835-Ambient lighting-Ambientemenue mit globalem aus,not active ,8
IDE02957-ENG154907-Ambient lighting-Applikationsleisten_Tuer,installed ,8
IDE02957-ENG154995-Ambient lighting-Cupholderbeleuchtung,not installed ,8
IDE02957-ENG125648-Ambient lighting-Dachbeleuchtung,not installed ,8
IDE02957-ENG125029-Ambient lighting-Defaultwert Ambienteprofil Farbe,Cold white ,8
IDE02957-ENG149163-Ambient lighting-Defaultwert_Ambienteprofil_Fussraum,50 %,8
IDE02957-ENG149164-Ambient lighting-Defaultwert_Ambienteprofil_Tuer,50 %,8
IDE02957-ENG149165-Ambient lighting-Defaultwert_Ambienteprofil_Vorn,50 %,8
IDE02957-ENG125651-Ambient lighting-Farbwahl ueber Fahrprofil,not installed ,8
IDE02957-ENG125650-Ambient lighting-Farbwahl ueber HMI,not installed ,8
IDE02957-ENG114629-Ambient lighting-Foot well lighting,installed ,8
IDE02957-ENG115824-Ambient lighting-Innenlichtinszenierung,not enabled ,8
IDE02957-ENG155264-Ambient lighting-Lautsprecherbeleuchtung,not installed ,8
IDE02957-ENG125647-Ambient lighting-Mittelkonsolenbeleuchtung,not installed ,8
IDE02957-ENG125649-Ambient lighting-Panoramaschiebedachbeleuchtung,not installed ,8
IDE02957-ENG149167-Ambient lighting-Tuerinnengriff_mit_Tuertafel,not installed ,8
IDE02957-ENG149166-Ambient lighting-Tuerinnengriffbeleuchtung_mit_I-Tafel,not installed ,8


And these too
IDE06096-ENG149157-Interior lighting-Innenlicht_bei_offenem_Heckdeckel_einschalten,active ,8
IDE06096-ENG98648-Interior lighting-Interior light,Keine_Spannungsanforderung ,8

And these
IDE11477-ENG128655-Interior lighting: parameter-p_ambienteumfang_mehrfarbig_HMI,00000000 ,3
IDE11477-ENG128656-Interior lighting: parameter-p_ambienteumfang_mehrfarbig_HMI_2,00000000 ,3
IDE11477-ENG128654-Interior lighting: parameter-p_farbauswahl_HMI,00000000 ,3

i just don't know how to add the colour options.it appears that the coding options on the mk7 golf are worded differently to the polo!!!!!

Any other help would be great.

scott
 
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Are you sure that you have ambient package plus? because if you have ambient package that is just white color without option to change color, no RGB lights.
Also not all of the BCM support ambient package plus, they are missing LIN bus pin that controls rgb chip.
 
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Are you sure that you have ambient package plus? because if you have ambient package that is just white color without option to change color, no RGB lights.
Also not all of the BCM support ambient package plus, they are missing LIN bus pin that controls rgb chip.

One of the adaption channels gives me the options to change colours but none of them do anything so it maybe that you are correct...

scott
 
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if you don't have 3 color to change from factory, then you don't have ambient package plus and no coding will help you get it. You can code from 3 colors to 10 colors but only if you have it.
it can be retrofitted but you have to check whether bcm supports it, can't help you with that on polo, if it were passat or tiguan I would.
 
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if you don't have 3 color to change from factory, then you don't have ambient package plus and no coding will help you get it. You can code from 3 colors to 10 colors but only if you have it.
it can be retrofitted but you have to check whether bcm supports it, can't help you with that on polo, if it were passat or tiguan I would.
No worries thanks for your help

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if you don't have 3 color to change from factory, then you don't have ambient package plus and no coding will help you get it. You can code from 3 colors to 10 colors but only if you have it.
it can be retrofitted but you have to check whether bcm supports it, can't help you with that on polo, if it were passat or tiguan I would.

Apparently his BCM does not support this because the Polo AW BCM does not have the adaptation channels for multi-color stuff
 
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Is it possible to change just the LED's (and of course run an extra wire and check your BCM for support) on passats/tiguans and have RGB ambient lighting, or do you need to swap out the whole interior pieces that hold the light strip?
 
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it's possible to swap led module but it needs to be cut around 3-4mm to fit on optic, once you take it apart it's self explanatory, so you can re use interior pieces, also you need to add lin bus wire connect to bcm, and positive wire needs to be permanent +12v otherwise there is dtc since lin bus is controling on/off color etc...
BCM must be HIGH module otherwise no joy. LIN bus pin is 61 on bcm. there is option to use audi a4 8w footwell lights which are also rgb modules, or smaller ones from a3 to make it full ;)
 
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can you elaborate this for Golf 7 as well? provided that's possible, of course.
 
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i don't have time for elaborate DIY but you need facelift BCM, gateway has to be 5Q0 high, MIB2 capable of ambiente light color (don't know which sw is capable, also I think that it can only control door rgb module not footwell ones, that can only mib2.5) or MIB2.5,
on rgb led housing: these housings have a longer protruding plastic for fiber optic which need to be cut, also sides needs to be cut to fit on old fiber optic;
Pinout
pin1 – +12v Kl.30
pin2 – LIN-Bus
pin4 – -12v

You can use either passat or audi rgb housing
audi
8W0 947 355 L
passat
3G0 927 103 K
passat one comes with flat cable lenght around 10cm and connector while audi one connector goes directly to plastic housing no flat cable

for footwell rgb led housing use audi a4
8W0 947 415 A — front left
8W0 947 415 B — front right
8W0 947 415 С — rear left
8W0 947 415 D — rear right (didn't notice difference, didn't have time to look)
connector
8K0 973 754

also there is for door card "pockets" smaller (square) housing rgb also
8W0 919 390 F
8W0 919 390 E
connector
8K0 973 754
 
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it's possible to swap led module but it needs to be cut around 3-4mm to fit on optic, once you take it apart it's self explanatory, so you can re use interior pieces, also you need to add lin bus wire connect to bcm, and positive wire needs to be permanent +12v otherwise there is dtc since lin bus is controling on/off color etc...
BCM must be HIGH module otherwise no joy. LIN bus pin is 61 on bcm. there is option to use audi a4 8w footwell lights which are also rgb modules, or smaller ones from a3 to make it full ;)

Sweet, thanks for the reply. Any difference between A4 and A3 footwell light regarding functionality?
 
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A4 footwell light are regular size, while A3 new size, really small square, but they do the same thing
 
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