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    Amarok V6 3.0 - 2018 Model - Disabling Stop/Start

    The Amarok is both the first VW and the first pickup I have ever owned and this is my first experience of VCDS (Christmas present from the family) and therefore my first post here, of course.

    Using information from the internet, with slight variations, I have managed to activate the Alt Speed Dis option to remove the KPH display which UK buyers are afflicted with, and also to change the Comfort Turn Signal from 3 flashes to 5, although this option was found in Channel 43 of Central Electrics adaptation, as indicated in a yellow help pop-up, rather than the channel usually suggested online.

    However, the Amarok has a stop/start function which drives me mad. It can be turned off each engine start with a button but I always forget until the first time it stops so I'd like to change the default to "stop/start" off or just disable it completely.

    I've found various suggestions on the internet which involve finding a drop-down listing which says "Start/stop start voltage limit" but I don't seem to have any drop-down with that entry. In fact, in the place where that option is supposed to be found, 19 CAN Control Gateway / Adaptation 10, I only have one entry in the drop-down, something to do with Fatigue Alarm or similar. My controllers all seem to be CAN rather than UDS although I don't know if that is relevant.

    I've also found online references to an adaptation of module 09-Central elect., channel 34 by adding or subtracting numbers from the number present by default. I can find this channel which has a default entry of 30 on my Amarok, so could add or subtract but I've no idea whether this is really the right place. I tried subtracting 4 and then pressed "Test" but nothing seemed to happen, although I'm not sure what should happen anyway.

    I decided not to make any changes unless I can discover whether this is really the right place.

    I also have a complete VCDS auto scan which I assume I need to add as an attachment to this post but, as I can't see how to attach at the moment, I will provide a link to it: https://www.dropbox.com/s/xf2pfdvzwo...0Scan.pdf?dl=0

    Thanks, in advance, for any help.

    Richard

    Code:
    Wednesday,26,December,2018,13:51:28:28075
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 18.9.0.4 (x64)  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4437.4
    Data version: 20181017 DS296.0
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WV1ZZZ2HZKH005968   License Plate: 
    
    
    Chassis Type: 2H-VN81 (7E0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 04 08 09 10 15 17 19 25 32 5F 61 65 69 0B
    
    VIN: WV1ZZZ2HZKH005968   Mileage: 2030km-1261miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    32-Differential Locks -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
    61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
    65-Tire Pressure -- Status: OK 0000
    69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-DDXE)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 2H6 907 311 K    HW: 059 907 309 J
       Component: 3.0l V6 TDI   H23 0002  
       Revision: 9AH23---    
       Coding: 012A4032233601030001
       Shop #: WSC 02776 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30TDI0112H6907311K 001002
       ROD: EV_ECM30TDI0112H6907311K.rod
       VCID: 3038E6D56AA589372EB-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans (J217)       Labels:| 0CM-325-025.clb
       Part No SW: 2H0 927 158 M    HW: 0DR 325 025 B
       Component: 0CM  30TDIRdW H22 1001  
       Revision: --H22---    
       Coding: 000001
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMAL450211 002011
       ROD: EV_TCMAL450211.rod
       VCID: 372ADDC98FCB5E0F6F1-8062
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels: Redir Fail!
       Part No SW: 2H6 907 379 A    HW: 2H6 907 379 
       Component: ESC           H06 0310  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 62848000000643
       Coding: 207364B64994B69A04AB26A992586D85390000
       Shop #: WSC 02776 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Brake1ESCCONTIVN817GP 008001
       ROD: EV_Brake1ESCCONTIVN817GP_008.rod
       VCID: 3430EAC59EBDB5174A3-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 04: Steering Angle (G085)       Labels:* 6R0-959-654.clb
       Part No SW: 6R0 959 654     HW: 6R0 959 654 
       Component: LENKW.SENSOR  H07 0070  
       Serial number: 05101813470993
       Coding: 01
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_LWSKLOVW25X 005001
       ROD: EV_LWSKLOVW25X.rod
       VCID: 7EA408EDE071AF47EC7-802A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 7E5-907-040.clb
       Part No SW: 2H6 907 040 B    HW: 2H6 907 040 B
       Component: ClimatronicT5 H04 0613  
       Revision: 00001K05    
       Coding: 0000000003
       Shop #: WSC 02776 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ClimatronicT5 A01003
       ROD: EV_ClimaAutoT5Basis.rod
       VCID: 2614008D5861D787C47-8072
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 7E0-937-BCM-V1.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 937 089 C    HW: 7E0 937 089 C
       Component: BCM PQ25 MMI4 H82 0762  
       Revision: BB082001    Serial number: 8701 289180738
       Coding: 240002380C61140093380F316CCB86D4B280654F60CE7160310000030803
       Shop #: WSC 66305 512 1451434
       VCID: 3332E9D99B33B22F539-8066
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K7 955 559 C  Labels: 5K7-955-559.CLB
       Component: RLS 051018 05  50  0106 
       Coding: 0228DD
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 EJ    HW: 6R0 959 802 EJ  Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
       Component: J386__TSG_FT  023 2332 
       Serial number: 12102844180919142031
       Coding: 000000
    
       Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 EF    HW: 6R0 959 801 EF  Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
       Component: J387__TSG_BT  023 2332 
       Serial number: 13202847180919074545
       Coding: 000000
    
       Subsystem 4 - Part No: 5C0 951 171 
       Component: Sensor, DWA 0  005 0502 
       Coding: 000000
    
       Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 F
       Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H01 0009 
       Coding: 000000
    
       Subsystem 6 - Part No: 5C0 951 171 
       Component: Sensor, DWA 0  005 0502 
       Coding: 000000
    
       Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 2H0 959 442     HW: 2H0 959 442   Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
       Component: E221__MFL-DC1  H02 0103 
       Serial number: 39180001911110078395
       Coding: A4FFFF
    
       Subsystem 8 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 811 P    HW: 6R0 959 811 P
       Component: J388__TSG_HL  022 1334 
       Serial number: 12102709180919171512
       Coding: 000000
    
       Subsystem 9 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 812 P    HW: 6R0 959 812 P
       Component: J389__TSG_HR  022 1334 
       Serial number: 12102708180919105908
       Coding: 000000
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:| 7E0-919-475.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 919 475 AA    HW: 7N0 919 475 
       Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H06 0212  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 28231825102314
       Coding: 31810E
       Shop #: WSC 02776 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K 001012
       ROD: EV_VW75XParkAssis8K_001_VN75.rod
       VCID: 71BE23D1A12FC03F615-8024
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 2K5 959 655 D    HW: 2K5 959 655 D
       Component: VW10Airbag01S 010 0018  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 003EL003S6RG
       Coding: 000000000000000000000000000000003153
       Shop #: WSC 02774 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW12X 001028
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750_VW12.rod
       VCID: 3D26CFE1ADF7745FB5D-8068
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 3495RRB40045E1GUBPL2
    
       Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 3505RRB40555L22OHGMT
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: 
       Serial number: 3555YRB405T5L22K71O 
    
       Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: 
       Serial number: 3565YRB405T5L22K61KY
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 2H6 920 983 A    HW: 2H6 920 983 A
       Component: KOMBI         H02 2030  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 431E000300
       Shop #: WSC 02776 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A05736
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_005_VW25.rod
       VCID: 3038E6D56AA589372EB-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7E0-909-901.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 909 901     HW: 7E0 937 089 C
       Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 H82 0762  
       Revision: BB082001    
       Coding: 742303
       Shop #: WSC 66305 512 1451434
       VCID: 68884EB5927501F736B-803C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H02 2030  
       Serial number:               
       Coding: 000002
       Shop #: WSC 02776 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03710
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
       VCID: 6A8C34BD8CF933E720F-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 32: Differential Locks (J647)       Labels:* 2H0-927-771.clb
       Part No SW: 2H0 927 771 B    HW: 2H0 927 771 
       Component: Quersperre    H04 0018  
       Revision: 11001001    Serial number: 4DG 04.09.18 00
       Coding: 000001
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_QuersUDSAAMVN817 002001
       ROD: EV_QuersUDSAAMVN817.rod
       VCID: 2D06FFA17D97E4DF05D-8078
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794)       Labels:| 5G0-035-MIB-STD2.clb
       Part No SW: 5C0 035 680 G    HW: 5C0 035 680 G
       Component: MU-S-ND-ER    H41 0472  
       Serial number: VWZAZ2U1612708
       Coding: 06180701BE00000011111101008808001F0100D6002001004F
       Shop #: WSC 02774 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_MUStd4CTSAT 001022
       ROD: EV_MUStd4CTSAT_VW36.rod
       VCID: 251607812567DC9FCDD-8070
    
       Data medium: 
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5NA 919 866     HW: -----------
       Component: ECE1 2018/19  --- 1030 
       Serial number: --------------------
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 61: Battery Regul. (J840)       Labels:. 1K0-907-534.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 907 534     HW: 7E0 937 089 C
       Component: Batt.regelung H82 0762  
       Serial number: 8701 289180738
       Coding: 330B18AF
       Shop #: WSC 02776 790 00000
       VCID: 68884EB5927501F736B-803C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 2H6 915 181     HW: 2H6 915 181 
       Component: J367-BDMConti  H03 1050 
       Serial number: 74975408001810030347
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 65: Tire Pressure (J502)       Labels: None
       Part No SW: 2H6 907 273     HW: 5Q0 907 273 
       Component: RDKBERU30     H04 0003  
       Serial number: 40000000031077
       ASAM Dataset: EV_RDKBERU30 006003
       ROD: EV_RDKBERU30_006_VW48.rod
       VCID: 6C8032A5860D2DD7523-8038
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 69: Trailer (J345)       Labels:. 1K0-907-383-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 383 F    HW: 1K0 907 383 F
       Component: Anhaenger     H12 0100  
       Revision: 3A001001    Serial number: 00000492663969
       Coding: 010D000100000000
       Shop #: WSC 02776 790 00000
       VCID: 3038E6D56A2589372EB-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 02:13, VBatt start/end: 12.1V/12.1V)-----------
    Last edited by RichardS; 12-28-2018 at 03:10 AM. Reason: Hopefully adding scan data

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    Hi and welcome to our forum.

    I don't know the Amarok well enough to offer any suggestions on the start/stop question.

    However, I need to make an "Admin Request": Please don't use the PRINT function in VCDS to post scans or other data here; the formatting it produces is good for a sheet-fed printer but is quite hard to read here. Please just copy & paste the original, plain text that VCDS produces when you use the COPY or SAVE functions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    Hi and welcome to our forum.

    I don't know the Amarok well enough to offer any suggestions on the start/stop question.

    However, I need to make an "Admin Request": Please don't use the PRINT function in VCDS to post scans or other data here; the formatting it produces is good for a sheet-fed printer but is quite hard to read here. Please just copy & paste the original, plain text that VCDS produces when you use the COPY or SAVE functions.

    -Uwe-
    Sorry about that. I can see the problem now so I've reformatted the auto scan and re-posted it above.

    It's much better, I hope.

    Richard

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardS View Post
    Sorry about that. I can see the problem now so I've reformatted the auto scan and re-posted it above.

    It's much better, I hope.

    Richard
    Better, but somehow spaces and whitespace is still lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by golfi_vend View Post
    Better, but somehow spaces and whitespace is still lost.
    OK .... tried again.

    Richard

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardS View Post
    OK .... tried again.
    It's pretty legible now.

    Pro-Tip: If you've done an Auto-Scan, even if you didn't explicitly save it in its native text format, VCDS did so surreptitiously in its Scans sub-folder.

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    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uwe View Post
    It's pretty legible now.

    Pro-Tip: If you've done an Auto-Scan, even if you didn't explicitly save it in its native text format, VCDS did so surreptitiously in its Scans sub-folder.

    -Uwe-
    Now that's a great tip Uwe, many thanks.

    I've now inserted the genuine article into my OP.

    Richard
    Last edited by RichardS; 12-28-2018 at 11:57 AM.

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    go on the bay and buy the interface that will "press" your S&S button every time you switch the ignition on. that's the cleanest way to get rid of it.

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    I'm still playing around with VCDS and trying to understand things better.

    I stumbled upon this today:



    I don't have the option listed to disable stop/start using the HVAC temperature parameters often mentioned on the web but this option looks as if it might have a similar effect. However, the language leaves me confused so I haven't tried it yet.

    If I select it I will change "stop release for stop-start function" from "according to function requirements" to "always" .... but what does "always stop release" mean in plain English, I wonder? If "release" means "operation" then it might work providing it doesn't reset every engine start like some of the stop/start options do.

    Has anyone tried this option?

    Richard

    OK, I've tried the "Always" setting and the good news is that the control module the remembers the setting but the bad news is that it doesn't disable stop/start. I don't know what it does .... maybe it sets stop/start so that it always engages without checking the HVAC function requirements .... but, either way, it's not what I'm hoping for.
    Last edited by RichardS; 01-01-2019 at 10:17 AM.

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    Try this...
    ---

    VAG Stop/Start Adaption – 2018.08.23
    1. 09-Central Electrics
    2. Security Access (16) – 20113
    3. Adaption 10
    4. Channel 34
    Values:
    4: Standard, Default ON, light when off
    -4 Default OFF, light when off
    +32 Default LAST USED SETTING, light when off
    +64 Reverses warning indicator, light when on

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