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    Val.
    Thanks.
    I have done all the question that you asked.
    The errors I delete them I wait for 1 minute and they come back and I use 2 different instruments.
    I also did measurements with my oscilloscope and also replaced one of oxygen sensors.
    The errors are always there.
    I do not know why this problem can not go away.
    It will take time but I will get the solution.
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    Is there any wiring harness damage, possibly ground related?

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    I did not find any bad ground.
    By the way do you know what is J220 in the jetta and where is located.
    I am getting errors P1517 and P0685. All my relays are checked and work on 12 v.
    I also have a confusion Oxygen B1 S3 ,Oxygen B1 S2, Oxygen B1 S3 a diagram or description where are located.
    I have a new one on the exhaust on the back of the Engine. All failed in my last check.
    I will change the other 2 oxygen sensors and then I will know the oxygen sensors can not be the problem.
    They all Bosh.
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    Last edited by peter11742; 01-10-2019 at 01:46 PM.

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    FYI: NostraJackASS above clearance intelligence wildcard!

    Bad new FACTORY IMITATED cloned pirated OXS sensors, are indeed in circulation & will cause this!
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    Thanks for the info.
    I have one already out how to check it? if is an original with bad markings.
    I need help with S1,S2,S3 Oxygen sensors locations.
    Can you tell me what is the S number on the one that you see from the top of the engine.
    This is the only one with different part number.
    The ones I have they are from AutoZone and they are made by Bosch hopefully are good.

    I also started the Jetta this morning with -5 degrees F. it started instantly.
    I scan the can buss and I get 2 errors oxygen sensors 1,2,3 and *****controller incorrectly coded*****.
    This is a message that I got many times do we have any software person to inform us.
    Can it be a fake message?.
    peter11742
    Last edited by peter11742; 01-11-2019 at 12:44 PM.

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    Address 01: Engine Labels: 06A-906-032-BGQ.lbl
    Control Module Part Number: 06A 906 032 QC HW: Hardware No
    Component and/or Version: 2.5l R5/4V G 6605 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Firmware update needed 9422 or higher!
    Software Coding: 0000003
    Work Shop Code: WSC 00066 000 00000
    VCID: 6FBBD1C63B90CCFF771-803A
    5 Faults Found:

    16426 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S3: Heating Circuit
    P0042 - 004 - Malfunction /Open Circuit - MIL ON
    16420 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S2: Heating Circuit
    P0036 - 004 - Malfunction / Open Circuit - MIL ON
    16415 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1: Heating Circuit
    P0031 - 002 - Short to Ground - MIL ON
    17925 - Power Supply Relay for ECU
    P1517 - 004 - Electrical Malfunction - MIL ON
    17069 - ECM Power Relay Control Circuit
    P0685 - 004 - Open Circuit - Intermittent







    The ones I have they are from AutoZone and they are made by Bosch hopefully are good.



    New auto-scan please and complete!

    Fuses for Heaters sir check and tone out wires with load light + measure current draw with DVOM AMP probe!

    WD and component locations but sir counting form manifold 1 2 3 .................red light!




    123 Load lights



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    Jack.
    Thanks for the location of oxygen sensors.
    VW has no picture of them.
    Now the #1 oxygen sensor is brand new and still fails.
    If you read my work you will see that I gave a good overview of my work with my oscilloscope.
    As far the the power supply relay problem I will continue weather permitting.
    I know my business do not send any more nasty answers.
    You probably know well the car business I know the medical business CAT, MRI, Special procedure X-ray Cath. labs Medical Lasers.
    As you know I do not know the VW.
    I will fix it on my own.
    This is my last report I am getting out of this site.
    Uwe you the only person that I liked just control the people around here.
    peter11742

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter11742 View Post
    Uwe you the only person that I liked just control the people around here.
    If there is someone here whose help you do not wish to receive, just go to that person's profile and click on "Add to ignore list".

    -Uwe-
    The engineering problems are likely insurmountable. It would be like proposing to land a rocket booster section on a barge floating in the middle of the ocean.

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    Uwe.
    Thanks.
    I will do this thanks for the information.
    Today I change my laptop to win 10 32 bit.
    The option LT3 was not available at the car but in the house was back strange.
    I try a new project I have an extra good J519 I want to make it the same like my car's J519.
    If you know the procedure please say a few words to help.
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    Jack.
    Thanks for the location of oxygen sensors.
    VW has no picture of them.
    Now the #1 oxygen sensor is brand new and still fails.
    If you read my work you will see that I gave a good overview of my work with my oscilloscope.
    As far the the power supply relay problem I will continue weather permitting.
    I know my business do not send any more nasty answers.
    You probably know well the car business I know the medical business CAT, MRI, Special procedure X-ray Cath. labs Medical Lasers.
    As you know I do not know the VW.
    I will fix it on my own.
    This is my last report I am getting out of this site.
    Uwe you the only person that I liked just control the people around here.
    peter11742




    Peter,
    Yes the RTFB does have pictures of the locations of the OXS sensors......

    https://i.postimg.cc/vMc1sN72/OXS-yes.png?dl=1



    Sorry if you think my questions are offensive, that is not the intent, I'm just trying to make you think.

    Let's make it all about me because I'm the asshole, so dump it all on me as the scapegoat, okay? I can't but help feel your pain, release it to me and set it free!

    Your test paths, aforementioned reading/comprehension or choice of type of WD were & are indeed poor or as you describe with a scope even.

    Please keep in mind the heater circuits are all shared in the OXS sensors & within the controller & with a shared fuse.
    You may have changed the OXS sensor but the controller may also possibly already be actually damaged & there is indeed a problem within the AFT for poorly rated parts for this car and all ME7 for VAG suffer issues with this circuit.

    Each heater circuit is a duty cycle ground completion pulsed bus type circuit and the controller adds up the heater circuits to also perform a DTC diagnosis which can be observed in VCDS during basic setting tests for readiness & a cross check algorithm & to deliberately make aftermarket parts fail in second or third drive cycles being completed to mess up your day.
    0x01-04-041>

    You haven't posted the data I requested or a DTC number and your old scan shows no evidence of a coding issue but your car is coded correctly.
    Coding: 0000003

    https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthr...l=1#post152088

    I want only to get rid of the oxygen sensors errors so I can inspect the car for use.
    I also read somewhere that the coding of the controller is not good.
    Please tell me if you need it, maybe you can reload it.
    Please let me know.
    peter11742

    https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthr...l=1#post152117
    So far no one is answering. it is difficult and this is the first time I deal with VW.
    At this point I will see if any other help will come soon.
    I will replace the other 2 oxygen sensors and I will stop working in the car until I have some news.

    Val.
    Thanks.
    I have done all the question that you asked.
    The errors I delete them I wait for 1 minute and they come back and I use 2 different instruments.
    I also did measurements with my oscilloscope and also replaced one of oxygen sensors.
    The errors are always there.
    I do not know why this problem can not go away.
    It will take time but I will get the solution.
    peter11742

    Thanks for the info.
    I have one already out how to check it? if is an original with bad markings.
    I need help with S1,S2,S3 Oxygen sensors locations.
    Can you tell me what is the S number on the one that you see from the top of the engine.
    This is the only one with different part number.
    The ones I have they are from AutoZone and they are made by Bosch hopefully are good.

    I also started the Jetta this morning with -5 degrees F. it started instantly.
    I scan the can buss and I get 2 errors oxygen sensors 1,2,3 and *****controller incorrectly coded*****.
    This is a message that I got many times do we have any software person to inform us.
    Can it be a fake message?.
    peter11742

    These posts are not the type of reports or questions I'd expect from any engineer in any field!

    Instead of this myopic approach and spouting off credentials or about other systems, maybe ask more educated questions or read the SSP on design and function?
    Ground fault loop......and exists in your medical equipment too, alarm and fire systems and the aforementioned car.

    I figured after over a month you needed someone to give you a push and or kick in the ass & since you were crying in aforementioned posts and it looked like you were/are simply frustrated.

    Now let's focus that anger and have some fun?



    Have you checked SB fuse 45?
    Is real power with amperage to drive a load circuit available at each OXS sensor for the heaters?

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    Vehicle Identification No. 3VWDG71KX5M602637
    Model Jetta
    JEM
    Date of production 01.03.2005
    Year 2005
    Sales type 1K27N3
    Engine Code BGQ
    Transmission Code HFU

    Code:
    Special editions E0A Without special action equipment
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    Aerials 8ZH Antenna for AM/FM reception, "diversity"
    Exterior mirror setting 6XC Exterior mirrors: power-adjustable
    Left exterior mirror 5SH Left exterior mirror, flat (US)
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    batteries J1D Battery 380 A (72 Ah)
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    Components with special surface 6FF Exterior mirror housing and various attachments colour coded to vehicle
    Controls (steering wheel/steering column) 4LC Radio and telephone controls
    Component part sets with country-specific design requirements B0D Assembly kit, USA corresponding vehicle version (not California), various parts
    vehicle tools and jack 1S1 vehicle tools and jack
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    brake wear indicator 9U1 brake wear indicator
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    PMC emissions concept for California
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