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    VW Caddy no start issue

    Hi All.

    Got a 2011 VW Caddy Van here with the 1.6TDI engine and the DSG7 Gearbox. It doesn't start.
    When you turn the key to start there is no crank. Instead on the dash the message '--p/n' appears, presumably meaning put the vehicle into park or neutral before trying to start which of course it already is.
    Sunday,09,December,2018,15:16:57:37606

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    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows XP x86
    VCDS Version: 18.2.1.2
    Data version: 20180518 DS287.1
    www.Ross-Tech.com
    
    
    VIN: WV2ZZZ2KZBX268376   License Plate: 
    Mileage: 237040km-147289mi   Repair Order: 
    
    
    
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    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    
    Chassis Type: 2K-VN35 (7N0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56
    
    VIN: WV2ZZZ2KZBX268376   Mileage: 237040km-147289miles
    
    01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
     
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    Address 01: Engine (J623-CAYD)       Labels:. 03L-906-023-CAY.clb
       Part No SW: 03L 906 023 FK    HW: 03L 907 425 C
       Component: R4 1.6l TDI   H43 9977  
       Revision: --H43---    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 00254014030500080000
       Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023FK 003012
       ROD: EV_ECM16TDI02103L997557M.rod
       VCID: 74E25B53DF29C9E433-8020
    
    No fault code found.
    Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1 
    
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    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 0AM-927-769.clb
       Part No SW: 0AM 300 050 R    HW: 0AM 927 769 D
       Component: GSG DSG AG7     403 9060  
       Revision: 00040034    Serial number: CU501101165767
       Coding: 0000020
       Shop #: WSC 51771 001 1048576
       VCID: 387AAF634BC16D84DF-806C
    
    No fault code found.
    
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    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
       Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BD    HW: 1K0 907 379 BD
       Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0108  
       Revision: 00H31001    
       Coding: 633C400D09280302C60E02EB901FC081300000
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
       VCID: 75E46657DC53D0EC04-8020
    
    5 Faults Found:
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 137
                        Mileage: 237043 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2013.04.17
                        Time: 00:02:19
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Count: 2
                        Count: 12
                        Count: 20992
                        Count: 8210
                        Count: 41728
                        Count: 0
                        Count: 512
                        Count: 0
    
    01314 - Engine Control Module 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 137
                        Mileage: 237043 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2013.04.17
                        Time: 00:01:25
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Count: 2
                        Count: 14
                        Count: 20992
                        Count: 8194
                        Count: 43264
                        Count: 0
                        Count: 512
                        Count: 0
    
    01276 - ABS Hydraulic Pump (V64) 
                012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 137
                        Mileage: 237043 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2013.04.17
                        Time: 00:06:16
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Count: 2
                        Count: 14
                        Count: 20992
                        Count: 105
                        Count: 43008
                        Count: 0
                        Count: 512
                        Count: 0
    
    01315 - Transmission Control Module 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 137
                        Mileage: 237043 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2013.04.17
                        Time: 00:06:02
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Count: 2
                        Count: 14
                        Count: 20992
                        Count: 8195
                        Count: 43008
                        Count: 0
                        Count: 512
                        Count: 0
    
    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 
                004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100100
                        Fault Priority: 3
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 137
                        Time Indication: 0
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Count: 2
                        Count: 12
                        Count: 20992
                        Count: 8208
                        Count: 37632
                        Count: 0
                        Count: 512
                        Count: 0
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301)       Labels:| 3C8-907-336.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 426 K    HW: 7N0 907 426 K
       Component: AC Manuell    H17 0202  
       Revision: 00012001    
       Coding: 0000000002
       Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatic A01005
       ROD: EV_ClimaBasis_VW32.rod
       VCID: 3C72B373B7F941A43B-8068
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
       Part No SW: 2K5 937 085     HW: 2K5 937 085 
       Component: BCM PQ35 B+   011 1044  
       Revision: BB011001    
       Coding: 401A0A3A8025186B088000829000006403017288524F8160648000000040
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
       VCID: 72EE5D4BAD3DC7D421-8026
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T2 955 119 A  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer 07011  26  0512 
       Coding: 009795
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02195 - Dimmer Switch Instrument Panel & Switch Lighting (E20) 
                002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 01100010
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 137
                        Mileage: 237043 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2013.05.01
                        Time: 00:06:26
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                            Term 15 On
                        Voltage: 12.50 V
                            ON
                            ON
                            OFF
                            OFF
                            OFF
    
    
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    Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
       Part No SW: 7E0 959 655 B    HW: 7E0 959 655 B
       Component: VW10Airbag00Z H06 0013  
       Revision: --------    Serial number: 003HL003S5SJ
       Coding: 00000000000000000000000000000000305A
       Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750 A01026
       ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVN750_VW12.rod
       VCID: 3564A65794D390ECC4-8060
    
    3 Faults Found:
    9437211 - Igniter for Driver's Airbag 
              B1000 1B [137] - Resistance Too High
              MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 237043 km
                        Date: 2018.12.09
                        Time: 00:06:26
    
    9446677 - Redundant signal path for airbag shut-off; passenger side 
              B1025 15 [137] - Open or Short to Plus
              MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 237043 km
                        Date: 2018.12.09
                        Time: 00:06:25
    
    9445397 - Key switch for deactivation of passenger-side airbag 
              B1020 15 [137] - Open or Short to Plus
              MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 237043 km
                        Date: 2018.12.09
                        Time: 00:06:25
    
    
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    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 507 AB    HW: 5K0 953 549 
       Component: Lenks.Modul   008 0080  
       Revision: --------    Serial number:  90440KAO000EN
       Coding: 1880060000
       Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGKUDS A05001
       ROD: EV_SMLSNGKUDS_A05.rod
       VCID: 70EA5743AB31F5C4D7-8024
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
       Part No SW: 2K0 920 965 A    HW: 2K0 920 965 A
       Component: KOMBI         H04 0421  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 480200
       Shop #: WSC 35110 790 50316
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04086
       ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW36.rod
       VCID: 2D548E377C83D82CBC-8078
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
       Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 C    HW: 1K0 907 951 
       Component: J533  Gateway H37 0614  
       Revision:   H37       Serial number: 230111F1000751
       Coding: 357401
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
       VCID: 306A974363B1B5C497-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
       Component: IMMO          H04 0421  
       Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 000000
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
       ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
       VCID: 6ADE452B8DED0F1499-803E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 T    HW: 1T0 959 701 T
       Component: Tuer-SG         009 2110  
       Coding: 0000560
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
       VCID: 489ADFA33B211D04AF-801C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
       Part No: 1K0 909 144 M
       Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 140    3201  
       Revision: 00H20000    
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
       VCID: 34629B5357A989E4F3-8060
    
    1 Fault Found:
    03803 - Steering Angle Sensor for Steering Aid 
                000 -  -  - MIL ON
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 11100000
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 237043 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2013.05.01
                        Time: 00:06:23
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Battery Volts: 12.6 V
                            DD
                        Temperature: 16.0∞C
                        Count: 2
                        Steering Angle: 0.00∞
                        Count: 0
                            SteerAng n.Init
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MIN3.clb
       Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 R    HW: 1T0 959 702 R
       Component: Tuer-SG         009 2110  
       Coding: 0000560
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
       VCID: 4798DC9F363F127CA6-8012
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio (J503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
       Part No SW: 5K0 035 156     HW: 5K0 035 156 
       Component: Radio         510 0521  
       Revision: R0510001    Serial number: VWZ5Z1L0445670
       Coding: 0500020001
       Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
       VCID: 64C22B1367C95964A3-8030
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:17)--------------------------
    All help welcomed.

    regards, M
    Last edited by Uwe; 12-10-2018 at 09:03 AM. Reason: CODE tags

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    Thanks for the link! I will look at the measuring blocks as mentioned asap. From memory it was all fine as that was one of the first things I checked. I was mostly alarmed by the amount of modules with no communication.

    Thanks to UWE for tidying up my original post. Wont forget next time. Ive had Ross-tech for some time now but never really used it much further than basic coding and fault scans. Hopefully it can be used to find the current fault but I may just need steering in the right direction to begin with.

    Ive added my VCDS verified number now. Hopefully this is enough to get verified?

    Regards, M

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vdtechnik View Post
    Ive added my VCDS verified number now. Hopefully this is enough to get verified?
    I'm afraid not. That system has never been registered with us, so you're in Category 2) of this post.

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    Ok, Will get registered properly asap.

    I have looked through the thread you linked NZDubNurd.
    Just to add I'm getting the P symbol on the instruments (well whatever gear the selector is in appears on the instruments).

    The measuring block results are on different numbers but I think I've got the information required.

    02-AutoTrans-004 Selector Lever Position (E313) = P
    09-Cent. Elec. - 064 Park Neutral (P/N) release = PN Inactive/OFF

    So the mechatronics unit is reporting that its in Park. But that signal isn't getting to the Cent.Elec and preventing the start?

    Erwin i guess would be the next move for the wiring diagram to confirm this?

    regards, M

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    Your modules with no comms, are low frequency/intermittant - they'll probably not come back after clearing.

    Your 2011 Caddy is still very similar electronical archimitecture to the MK5 Golf and 1T1/1T2/1T3 Tourans, so the linked thread probably applies directly to your car, but it doesn't hurt to double check!

    I suspect the selector lever position is reported by the lever assembly itself (it is, in the linked thread) - it has hall sensors and magnets. The Mechatronics then tells the J519 CECM that it's in park too... ideally they should match

    You'll probably find you have a purple/black wire in pin E/7 of the J519 too - you can try the test if from the linked thread - If you're not a betting man, you'll want to check the wiring diagrams first You could also isolate both ends, verifying the colour at the DSG... I suspect that wire will be open circuit though.
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