A3 8P MK60 to MK60EC1 Upgrade problem

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Hi guys.

I've recently upgraded MK60 abs pump to a MK60EC1 along with a 3rd gen steering rack. I managed to long code it, enable xds, hillhold and probably tpms via instrument cluster. The problem I'm facing is all 4 speed sensors fault. Somehow pump doesn't get any info from the sensors, just drops a fault. Obviously I re-pinned the plug, but didn't touch pins for the sensor as these are the same for MK60 and MK60EC. Here's the scan. Any help would be appreciated. I don't wanna spend pennies for new sensors unless they are really necessary. Also, I noticed a minor fault in airbag - what could it be?

Code:
Wednesday,05,December,2018,14:27:26:60351
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 18.9.0.2 (x64)
Data version: 20180927 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: 

VIN: WAUZZZ8P46A185916   License Plate: 


Chassis Type: 8P (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 47 4C 52 56 77 7D

VIN: WAUZZZ8P46A185916   Mileage: 295870km-183845miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 1010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
4C-Tire Pressure II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: Malfunction 0010
 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-016-BKD.clb
   Part No SW: 03G 906 016 FF    HW: 028 101 190 5
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000SG  7364  
   Revision: 12345678    Serial number: AUX7Z0F2FNI054
   Coding: 0000072
   Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032
   VCID: 6CD7A1BA4F60482A19-8038

1 Fault Found:
18061 - Please check DTC Memory of ABS Controller 
            P1653 - 000 - 
             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 798 /min
                    Torque: 32.0 Nm
                    Speed: 4.0 km/h
                    Load: 0.0 %
                    Voltage: 14.06 V
                    Bin. Bits: 00101011
                    Torque: 134.0 Nm
                    Bin. Bits: 00000100

Readiness: 0 0 1 1 1 

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BL    HW: 1K0 907 379 BL
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0152  
   Revision: 00H31001    
   Coding: 13424012092A00FFC81402E5901F0082270C00
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 7DF19CFEE41AD1A2BE-8028

5 Faults Found:
01325 - Control Module for Tire Pressure Monitoring (J502) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 51
                    Mileage: 295872 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.12.04
                    Time: 00:43:56

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 7
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 12800
                    Count: 16390
                    Count: 50688
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 1023
                    Count: 0

00287 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Rear Right (G44) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 51
                    Mileage: 295872 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.12.04
                    Time: 00:43:46

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 7
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 12800
                    Count: 80
                    Count: 50944
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 1023
                    Count: 0

00290 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Rear Left (G46) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 51
                    Mileage: 295872 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.12.04
                    Time: 00:43:46

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 7
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 12800
                    Count: 64
                    Count: 50944
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 1023
                    Count: 0

00285 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Right (G45) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 51
                    Mileage: 295872 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.12.04
                    Time: 00:43:46

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 7
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 12800
                    Count: 48
                    Count: 50944
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 1023
                    Count: 0

00283 - ABS Wheel Speed Sensor; Front Left  (G47) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 51
                    Mileage: 295872 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.12.04
                    Time: 00:43:46

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 7
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 12800
                    Count: 32
                    Count: 50944
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 1023
                    Count: 0


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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 8P0-820-043.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 820 043 M    HW: 8P0 820 043 M
   Component: KlimavollautomatH18 0260  
   Revision: 315421      Serial number: 8P0820043M    
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 366343D241ACC2FA3F-8062

1 Fault Found:
00483 - Control Module for Auxiliary Air Heater 
            013 - Check DTC Memory
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101101
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 50
                    Mileage: 295872 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.12.04
                    Time: 00:14:48

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON


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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels:. 8P0-907-279-30-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 907 279 K    HW: 8P0 907 279 K
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2501  
   Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000007412374
   Coding: A9884F07A21410001F000000000000000009FE0F5C01022E000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06314 122 00001
   VCID: 4581341E0C4A5962A6-8010

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8P2 955 119 B  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer AU350   H01 0130  
   Coding: 00064816
   Shop #: WSC 06314  

1 Fault Found:
01800 - Light Switch (E1) 
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 51
                    Mileage: 295872 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.12.04
                    Time: 04:14:00

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 13.95 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 8P0-959-655-94.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 959 655 H    HW: 8P0 959 655 H
   Component:    Airbag 9.41  H12 3720  
   Revision: 91H12372    Serial number: 0037W001VR8N  
   Coding: 0071612
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 479D3E1636464B7254-8012

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 63328RB4010C5628C

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 63428RB4010D14DBM

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 63528RB4010C55B8M

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 63628RB4010D15517

   Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63729RB4010DC242H

   Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63829RB4010DC69AZ

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 46
                    Reset counter: 51
                    Mileage: 295872 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.12.04
                    Time: 01:59:42


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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 8P0-953-549-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 953 549 F    HW: 8P0 953 549 F
   Component: J0527           H34 0090  
   Coding: 0004042
   Shop #: WSC 06314 122 00001
   VCID: 4189200E186275429A-8014

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
   Component: E0221           H03 0030

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 8P0-920-xxx-17-MY8.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 920 932 G    HW: 8P0 920 932 G
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H01 0090  
   Revision: D0H01003    Serial number: 2247J003018953
   Coding: 0276816
   Shop #: WSC 50741 143 61874
   VCID: 387F4DEA4BB8348A2D-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 BH    HW: 7N0 907 530 AK
   Component: J533  Gateway H57 1682  
   Revision:   H57       Serial number: 19051403000477
   Coding: 350101
   Shop #: WSC 19460 666 12345
   VCID: 77FD8ED6C626FBF2E4-8022

1 Fault Found:
01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 17
                    Reset counter: 91
                    Mileage: 295872 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.12.04
                    Time: 00:00:02


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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 920 932 G    HW: 8P0 920 932 G
   Component: KOMBIINSTR. VDO H01 0090  
   Revision: D0H01003    Serial number: AUX7Z0F2FNI054
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   VCID: 387F4DEA4BB8348A2D-806C

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 035 193 G    HW: 8P0 035 193 G
   Component: RNS-E PU EU     H07 0220  
   Revision: 0000013S    Serial number: AUZBZ7ND405162
   Coding: 0205755
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 346779DA57D0D0EA01-8060

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 51
                    Mileage: 295872 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.12.04
                    Time: 01:59:55

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits:     0001
                    Mileage: 295870 km
                    Count: 412
                    Clock: 00:05


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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 8P0-959-801-MAX3.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 959 801 P    HW: 8P0 959 801 P
   Component: Tuer-SG         H04 0101  
   Coding: 0004728
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 489F3D2A3B58440A5D-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 R
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 243    3501  
   Revision: 00H20000    
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 397948EE70B22D82D2-806C

2 Faults Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            013 - Check DTC Memory - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11101101
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 51
                    Mileage: 295872 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.12.04
                    Time: 00:41:07

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 14.00 V
                        DU
                    Temperature: 21.0°C
                    RPM: 826 /min
                    Speed: 50.0 km/h
                    Speed: 50.0 km/h
                    Count: 0

01316 - ABS Control Module 
            013 - Check DTC Memory - MIL ON
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 11101101
                    Fault Priority: 3
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 51
                    Mileage: 295872 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.12.04
                    Time: 00:41:08

             Freeze Frame:
                    Voltage: 14.13 V
                        DU
                    Temperature: 21.0°C
                    RPM: 826 /min
                    Speed: 50.0 km/h
                    Speed: 50.0 km/h
                    Count: 0


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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 8P0-959-433.lbl
   Part No: 8P0 959 433 J
   Component:    KSG          H11 0080  
   Coding: 1880222002487F008707C09AC677
   Shop #: WSC 06314 122 00001
   VCID: 43852A06027E675288-8016

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 907 719 C
   Component: Neigungssensor  005 0003

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 8P0 951 177 
   Component: Innenraumueberw.H04 0020

1 Fault Found:
00625 - Vehicle Speed Signal 
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 8Px-035-382.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P3 035 382     HW: 8P3 035 382 
   Component: AB2 SUBWOOFERBOXH27 0160  
   Revision: 00005       Serial number: 30659630294399
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 70EFB5CA6348ACCA25-8024

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 959 802 P    HW: 8P0 959 802 P
   Component: Tuer-SG         H04 0101  
   Coding: 0004984
   Shop #: WSC 06314 000 00000
   VCID: 4999382E2052BD0242-801C

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 8E0-035-192-RNSE.clb
   Part No SW: 8P0 035 193 G    HW: 8P0 035 193 G
   Component: RNS-E PU EU     H07 0220  
   Revision: 0000013S    Serial number: AUZBZ7ND405162
   Coding: 0205755
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 346779DA57D0D0EA01-8060

1 Fault Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 51
                    Mileage: 295872 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2018.12.04
                    Time: 01:59:55

             Freeze Frame:
                    Bin. Bits:     0001
                    Mileage: 295870 km
                    Count: 412
                    Clock: 00:05


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Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 8P0-862-335.lbl
   Part No SW: 8P0 862 335 S    HW: 8P0 862 335 S
   Component: FSE_256x BT     H34 0550  
   Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000005083745
   Coding: 0011422
   Shop #: WSC 06441 785 00200
   VCID: 46833312314C527AAF-8012

No fault code found.

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Address 7D: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E    HW: 1K0 963 235 E
   Component: PTC-Element         0404  
   Revision: 00800000    Serial number:               
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2D516CBEB4FA81224E-8078

1 Fault Found:
00361 - Heater Element for Auxiliary Heater (Z35) 
            014 - Defective

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Disclaimer: I'm not an expert in these sort of retrofits


Can you please post an OLD auto scan of your car (including error codes) before the retrofit?

The wiring on your car would be "correct", but you need to check to see if the donor car from which the retrofitted ABS unit came from uses different wheel speed sensors (and as such you would have to swap those 4 as well. Are you saying that your speedometer does NOT move now as you drive?

http://catalog.autotrade.su/index.php?option=com_guayaquil&view=qgroups&c=AU1221&vid=0&ssd=$*KwG4jJ27xsDH9eO84r-xvuD01NPNuby5vq2rpOLL96_oqbaskojjpqn_4KixrtyXiuOmqe-vsL-9vP__rKixrsy5qaCsoL7jsKm03bvJwM3x8ePv6K63qMnHyvHx4_7orreow8jY8fHj_OLir7Cp28-Gh5vQs9y5vMq9tubk8Lyp8QAAAACSTP6g$&path_data=VmluIFdBVVpaWjhQNDZBMTg1OTE2INCR0YDQtdC90LQ6IEFVREk7INCd0LDQt9Cy0LDQvdC40LU6IEF1ZGkgQTMvUzMvU3BvcnRiLi9MaW0uL3F1Ljsg0JTQsNGC0LAg0LLRi9C_0YPRgdC60LA6IDI5LjAzLjIwMDY7INCS0YvQv9GD0YnQtdC90L46IDIwMDY7IHByb2RSYW5nZTogMjAwNCAtIDIwMDc7INCU0LLQuNCz0LDRgtC10LvRjDogQktEOyDihJYg0LTQstC40LPQsNGC0LXQu9GPOiA0ODI2MjsgZW5naW5lX2luZm86IDIwMDBDQyAvIDE0MGhwIC8gMTAza1cgVERJOyDQmtCfOiBIRFY7INCm0LLQtdGCINC60YPQt9C-0LLQsDogMlkyWTsg0KbQstC10YIg0YHQsNC70L7QvdCwOiBNUA%2C%2C&vin=WAUZZZ8P46A185916&frame=&frameNo=&from_garage=0&Itemid=486

The above is the full breakdown for YOUR VIN. It is in a different language, but your browser will translate for you

This is your Stock ABS below:
http://catalog.autotrade.su/index.php?option=com_guayaquil&view=unit&c=AU1221&vid=0&uid=1271435&cid=6&ssd=$*KwFVYXBWKy0qGA5RD1JcUw0ZOT4gVFFUU0BGSQ8mGkIFRFtBf2UOS0QSDUVcQzF6Zw5LRAJCXVJQURISQUVcQyFURE1BTVMOXURZMFYkLSAcHA4CBUNaRSQqJxwcDhMFQ1pFLiU1HBwOEQ8PQl1ENiJranY9XjFUUSdQWwsJHVFEHAAAAADQgj5L$&path_id=15015127&Itemid=486

Your stock Speed sensor has part number (4) below:
http://catalog.autotrade.su/index.php?option=com_guayaquil&view=unit&c=AU1221&vid=0&uid=1285305&cid=9&ssd=$*KwE6Dh85REJFd2E-YD0zPGJ2VlFPOz47PC8pJmBJdS1qKzQuEAphJCt9YiozLF4VCGEkK20tMj0_Pn19LiozLE47KyIuIjxhMis2XzlLQk9zc2Ftaiw1KktFSHNzYXxqLDUqQUpac3NhfmBgLTIrWU0EBRlSMV47Pkg_NGRmcj4rcwAAAAAwbhoX$&path_id=15015127&Itemid=486
 
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You now need to find a car that has THAT new ABS that you inserted, and find the part number for the 4 speed sensor to see if they are the same. Don't depin any of your wires until you do this check. The harness should be the same, but the sensor is different.


I'm looking for a ABS unit to retrofit in my 1K MK5 Golf to get hill hold assist as well, but I don't want to trouble my speed sensors either.
 
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Your ABS coding has at least one problem. I corrected it here :
13424012092A00FFC81402E5901F0082270800

You had enabled TPMS via instrument cluster which is not applicable to this age car. And the ABS sensor issue, I'm pretty sure it's a coding issue and not actual ABS sensor problem.

I did this same retrofit few years back to my wife's previous Golf Plus. That also had mk60 pump which I upgraded to MK60EC1 that car was pretty bare before the retrofit galore so it did not have any special abs sensors. They should be the same unless the car has ACC, PLA2.0 etc. Those need different rear ABS sensors but fronts still stay the same.

Try this as your ABS coding, this is different than the one up as that has only the TPMS via instrument cluster disable, this one has more modifications.

13420012092A00FFC81400E590000085A50000
 
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I'm tempted to try this retrofit myself, just to get Hill-Hold assist.
 
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