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My name is Col and and I've owned a Golf R mk6 DSG for 5 and a bit years. The Golf is my 4 wheel toy and to me it's like a go-kart and on the tight windy back roads, WOW. My other toy is a 1981 Suzuki GS1100E that I've restored, that's a blast for the occasional weekend ride. What I take issue with is incompetence from dealerships who charge you the earth for poor quality work, misdiagnosis and dumb looks. So, I figured with a VCDS in my possession I couldn't be any worse :confused:

It's taken a while, but I finally did it and picked up my Ross-Tech Hex-V2. Great piece of gear to hopefully help with a few issues I've had for awhile. Having used a few other specialized scan tools, I'm surprised how quick it does the scan. Set out below is the Golfs story and i'd love some assistance to figure out the problem.

Golf R Mk6 DSG 60,000kms stock standard as far as I know; only parts changed were recommended to be changed. This problem has been causing me grief for near on 18 months. I have visited the VW dealer and they couldn’t or weren’t interested in helping me out, so I spoke to a number of people who offered opinions, hence the parts replaced.

Using full throttle the engine will reach approximately 3500RPM and stop dead for 1-2 seconds then go again to full RPM.

Light throttle and progressively using more throttle the dead flat spot isn’t as pronounced.

When traveling along at say 80kph and lightly accelerating the engine would stumble/misfire then slowly clear and off it would go.

Fuel consumption is shocking, the idle is erratic at times but not always, and mostly it’s okay.

Parts changed and the result.

Diverter valve: No change and the original one seemed in good condition.

Audi ignition coils: No change.

New spark plugs: New NGK double platinum gaped at .028” this is when the stumble/misfire started. Original VW spark plugs were worn but not stuffed.

New HPFP: New genuine HPFP fitted, checked the camshaft bucket all okay, idle seemed ever so slightly smoother.

New LPFP module: No change.

New BOSCH (Germany) spark plugs: Gaped to .028” no change still the stumble/misfire. Re-gaped the plugs to .026” the stumble/misfire was less evident. Re-gaped to .024” the stumble/misfire was nearly gone. Re-gaped to .022” no stumble or misfire. Re fitted the original coils and NGK spark plugs stumble/misfire back again.

PCV valve inspected and found to be good.

Fuel filter changed a number of times: No change.

Have done a pressure test from the turbo to the throttle body and it held a steady 25psi.

The inlet manifold was inspected for leaks using brake clean while the engine was running; no increase in RPM was found.

Disconnecting the MAF sensor connector causes no idle problems, remove the MAF sensor with the connector fitted (seal the MAF hole in the manifold) and rest the MAF on the engine cover start the engine and no problems, however move the sensor and the engine stops. Checked the MAF wiring, all okay. Connected a DMM to the MAF, had an idle voltage of 2.67 volts, increased the RPM and the voltage reduced to 2.47 volts. :banghead:

As you can see I’ve replaced and tested what I could and this is why I purchased my Ross-Tech HEX-V2, so if there is anyone who could throw some light on the problem, I’m all ears.

Thank you and regards Col.:thanks:
 
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Hi and welcome to our forum.

Please post an Auto-Scan for context.

If the problem is readily reproducible, you may want to start logging some data. Boost (both requested and actual), ignition timing, and fuel pressures, and so on.

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Hi there Uwe and thanks for responding. The Auto scan is below, as for some logs, I'll post them when it stops pouring down rain.

Thank you and regards Col.

Code:
Thursday,06,December,2018,15:55:30:44471
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x86
VCDS Version: 18.9.0.4  HEX-V2 CB: 0.4436.4
Data version: 20181017 DS296.0
www.Ross-Tech.com

Dealer/Shop Name: D572226355C88800



Chassis Type: 1K-VW36 (7N0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 15 16 17 19 22 25 42 44 46 52 55 56 62 72
         

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZBW131xxx   Mileage: 60170km-37387miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine (CDL)       Labels:. 06F-907-115-CDL.clb
   Part No SW: 1K8 907 115 D    HW: 8P0 907 115 B
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0020  
   Revision: 5BH19---    Serial number:               
   Coding: 0403000C1C0F0160
   Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032
   VCID: 2F3BEFDA9B17970F371-807A

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0010 0001

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Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 02E-927-770.clb
   Part No SW: 02E 300 013     HW: 02E 927 770 AL
   Component: GSG DSG AG6     511 2249  
   Revision: 05151112    Serial number: 00001007280922
   Coding: 0000020
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 4EC5925EFCDDFE075C7-801A

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104)       Labels:. 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BE    HW: 1K0 907 379 BE
   Component: ESP MK60EC1   H31 0108  
   Revision: 00H31001    
   Coding: 163B800D092500FB680F01EB901C00813D0000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 76B51ABE28CDE6C7B47-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels:| 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 BS    HW: 5K0 907 044 BS
   Component: Climatronic   H15 0709  
   Revision: 00003001    
   Coding: 0000001002
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01006
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
   VCID: 7DA705920D7BB59FF5D-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels:. 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 087 J    HW: 1K0 937 087 J
   Component: BCM PQ35  H   103 0615  
   Revision: 00103 AD    
   Coding: 48180A3A8825F1C040080080340008E441550088736D8960E48000240040
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3829D486625950B766B-806C

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 F  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 07101  26  0512 
   Coding: 009795

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 191010 05  54  0403 
   Coding: 0330AD

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171 
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104 

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 605 A
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H11 9004 

No fault code found.

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Address 10: Park/Steer Assist (J446)       Labels:. 3C8-919-475.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 919 475 D    HW: 5K0 919 475 
   Component: PARKHILFE 8K  H07 0010  
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 48341022200834
   Coding: 100104
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 372BD7BA6F475FCF6F1-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234)       Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 655 D    HW: 5K0 959 655 D
   Component: AirbagVW10    037 0606  
   Serial number: 003FKRAEDDRD  
   Coding: 00003131
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 A01011
   ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360.rod
   VCID: 3B23CB8A53EF7BAF8B9-806E

   Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V  H01 ---- 
   Serial number: 3572MSME0D253558ZZZY

   Crash sensor for side airbag: front passenger side: 
   Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354     HW: 5K0 959 354 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.V  H01 ---- 
   Serial number: 3582MSME47763558ZZZ$

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: driver side: 
   Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H  --- ---- 
   Serial number: 3512QSME282F7049ZZZ 

   Crash sensor for side airbag: rear: passenger side: 
   Component: S.Sens.Beif.H  --- ---- 
   Serial number: 3522QSME16276B71ZZZX

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527)       Labels:| 5K0-953-569.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 507 AH    HW: 5K0 953 549 B
   Component: Lenks.Modul   007 0080  
   Revision: --------    Serial number:  90422JJF00035
   Coding: 1892140000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGKUDS A05001
   ROD: EV_SMLSNGKUDS_A05.rod
   VCID: 76B51ABE284DE6C7B47-8022

   Multifunction steering wheel control module: 
   Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 542     HW: 5K0 959 542   Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS  H06 0010 
   Serial number: 0161472             
   Coding: 830000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
   Part No SW: 5K6 920 871 B    HW: 5K6 920 871 B
   Component: KOMBI         H20 0420  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 170F01
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04089
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW32.rod
   VCID: 3333E3AA7BBFB3EF539-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 7N0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530     HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: J533  Gateway   H27 5603  
   Revision:   H27       Serial number: 191010F1000630
   Coding: EDA37F0600020200000003
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 6D8735D2519B251F45D-8038

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD        Labels: 0AY-907-554-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 0BR 907 554 B    HW: 0BR 907 554 B
   Component: Haldex 4Motion      3017  
   Coding: 0000005
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 44D1B07622910457FA3-8010

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 953 234     HW: 5K0 953 234 
   Component: IMMO          H20 0420  
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03008
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09.rod
   VCID: 6A8D3ECE6CF5322720F-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels:. 1K0-959-701-MIN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 701 B    HW: 5K0 959 701 B
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2120  
   Coding: 0000692
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 313FE9A28D2381FF215-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1K0-909-14x-GEN3.clb
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 J
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 74     3001  
   Revision: 00H17000    
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 313FE9A28D2381FF215-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels:. 1K0-959-702-MAX3.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 702 C    HW: 5K0 959 702 C
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2120  
   Coding: 0000948
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3333E3AA773FB3EF539-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 5M0-907-357-V2.lbl
   Part No SW: 5M0 907 357 C    HW: 5M0 907 357 C
   Component: AFS-Steuergeraet    0148  
   Revision: 00H04000    Serial number:               
   Coding: 1475932
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3431E0B67231B4D74A3-8060

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul l    0004  
   Coding: 00000022

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 7L6 941 329 B  Labels: 3D0-941-329.CLB
   Component: AFS-Lst.-Modul r    0004  
   Coding: 00000022

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0503)       Labels:. 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 035 190     HW: 5K0 035 190 
   Component: Radio RCD510  041 0167  
   Revision: 00000001    Serial number: VWZ1Z3K3563011
   Coding: 0500040004
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 629D56EE94456A67E8F-8036

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels:. 1K0-959-703-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 703 D    HW: 5K0 959 703 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
   VCID: 3537DDB2794BADDF7DD-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels:. 1K0-959-704-GEN3.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 704 D    HW: 5K0 959 704 D
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
   VCID: 3635DABE644DA6C7747-8062

No fault code found.

End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:18, VBatt start/end: 13.6V/13.7V)-----------
 
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Hi Col,
I cannot see that you have replaced the MAF, so if you haven't, replace it with a genuine unit. Do you have a scope?
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Hi HMC,

Thanks for your input, much appreciated. No the MAF hasn't been replaced as yet, as I cant see the point of throwing any more parts at it without knowing if they're faulty or not, I've done enough of the I have my doubts about the MAF but this is the reason for getting the HEX-V2.

Thank you and regards Col.
 
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Hi again,

This is going to sound stupid, but how do I post my log. Excel wont play ball with copy and paste. Obviously there is something I'm not seeing.

Thanks in advance, regards Col.
 
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Right-click the original CSV file generated by VCDS. From the context menu, select Edit. That should open in in Notepad. Copy & paste from there please.

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Thanks Uwe,
I think my Excel could be a bit dated and wont look at doing that. Looks like the Excel upgrade is about to happen.

Thanks again, I'll post the log as soon as I can.

Regards Col.
 
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Uwe suggestion is in File Explorer not Excel so you don't need to upgrade Excel to do it :cool:
 
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Hey PetrolDave, Thanks heaps for that, saved me from the financial controller of the house.

Actually this is great as I'm learning all the time.

Thanks and regards Col.
 
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Hi there Uwe, I was trying to make my log post all nice and organized, and after a look at a few other logs I'll post it as is. :). The first log to 16 seconds is full throttle in second and third. The next is second, third and fourth. As usual when you try to reproduce a fault nothing really goes wrong. However the car still feels down on power to me.

Thanks for looking and the advice so far, great stuff.

Code:
Friday,7,December,2018,13:03:05:44471-VCID:2F3BEFDA9B17970F371-807A,VCDS Version: Release 18.9.0,Data version: 20181017 DS296.0,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
1K8 907 115 D,ADVMB,2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0020,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,,G002,F0,G002,F3,G003,F3,G106,F0,G114,F3,G115,F3,G000,F0,G000,F0,G000,F0,G000,F0,G000,F0,G000,F0

Marker,TIME,Group 2 - Field 0,TIME,Group 2 - Field 3,TIME,Group 3 - Field 3,TIME,Group 106 - Field 0,TIME,Group 114 - Field 3,TIME,Group 115 - Field 3,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,STAMP,Engine Speed - (G28),STAMP,Mass Air Flow - Sensor (G70),STAMP,Ignition - Timing Angle,STAMP,Fuel Rail - Pressure (actual),STAMP,Boost Pressure - Control (N75),STAMP,Boost Pressure - (actual),,,,,,,,,,,,,
,, /min,, g/s,, °BTDC,, bar,, %,, mbar,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,0.24,1120,0.24,4.42,0.37,-1.5,0.51,49.99,0.01,0,0.12,1010,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,0.88,1120,0.88,4.58,1.01,-3,1.13,50.11,0.63,0,0.76,1010,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,1.51,1200,1.51,5.5,1.64,1.5,1.75,50.11,1.26,0,1.39,1010,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,2.13,1280,2.13,6.22,2.25,1.5,2.38,50.16,1.89,0,2,1010,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,4.65,1240,4.65,6.03,4.77,0.8,4.27,49.66,4.4,0,4.52,1010,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,5.29,1240,5.29,6.14,5.42,0.8,4.89,49.86,5.03,0,5.16,1010,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,5.92,1240,5.92,6.06,6.06,0.8,5.55,49.87,5.67,0,5.8,1010,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,6.55,1280,6.55,12.83,6.67,9.8,6.17,50.22,6.31,0,6.42,1000,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,7.17,1800,7.17,31.36,7.3,15,6.8,54.43,6.92,94.9,7.05,1030,,,,,,,,,,,,,
,7.8,2680,7.8,63.86,7.92,14.3,7.42,61.04,7.55,94.9,7.67,1190
,8.42,3880,8.42,159.39,8.54,4.5,8.05,70.6,8.17,94.9,8.29,1780
,9.05,5680,9.05,230.25,9.17,9,8.67,77.5,8.79,80.4,8.93,2580
,9.69,5680,9.69,211.56,9.81,5.3,9.29,88.76,9.43,82.7,9.56,2180
,10.31,4320,10.31,194.67,10.43,3.8,9.93,71.61,10.06,84.7,10.18,2550
,10.93,4520,10.93,197.86,11.05,0.8,10.56,42.5,10.68,67.5,10.8,2700
,11.57,5000,11.57,210.44,11.69,7.5,11.18,81.07,11.31,68.6,11.43,2470
,12.19,5520,12.19,225.36,12.32,8.3,11.82,95.26,11.95,71.4,12.07,2490
,12.83,5960,12.83,235.22,12.95,8.3,12.44,101.54,12.57,74.5,12.7,2410
,13.44,6320,13.44,237.14,13.57,12.8,13.08,95.64,13.19,73.3,13.33,2290
,14.07,6640,14.07,232.94,14.19,3.8,13.69,96.86,13.81,68.6,13.94,2300
,14.71,5000,14.71,9.92,14.83,33,14.32,94.61,14.44,0,14.58,1950
,15.33,4680,15.33,16.06,15.45,1.5,14.95,80.52,15.08,0,15.2,1180
,15.95,4400,15.95,15.83,16.08,0,15.58,80.56,15.7,0,15.83,1110
,16.59,4120,16.59,15.5,16.73,-1.5,16.21,78.83,16.33,0,16.46,1090
,299.16,2320,299.16,8.28,299.29,-4.5,299.41,57.12,299.54,0,299.66,1040
,299.78,2040,299.78,7.06,299.91,-4.5,300.05,57.06,300.17,0,300.31,1040
,300.42,1840,300.42,6.39,300.55,-6,300.67,57.06,300.8,0,300.92,1030
,301.04,1560,301.04,5.19,301.17,-6,301.29,56.83,301.42,0,301.54,1030
,301.67,1400,301.67,4.33,301.79,-6.8,301.92,56.82,302.06,0,302.18,1020
,302.31,1400,302.31,19.39,302.43,8.3,302.56,60.97,302.68,0,302.81,1040
,302.95,1440,302.95,5.33,303.08,15.8,303.21,58.66,303.33,94.9,303.46,1050
,303.59,1640,303.59,29.22,303.72,12.8,303.84,66.92,303.97,94.9,304.09,1150
,304.22,2080,304.22,44.06,304.34,15,304.46,74.53,304.59,94.9,304.71,1560
,304.84,3680,304.84,132.75,304.96,9.8,305.09,83.01,305.21,72.2,305.34,2580
,305.46,5360,305.46,224.81,305.58,8.3,305.71,94.26,305.83,80.4,305.97,2220
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Hi Uwe,

Sorry but I don't understand (Code:).

Thanks and regards Col.
 
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Hi there,

I'd like to say thanks for all the assistance with my Golf R, and it's now running well.

Regards Col.
 
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