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    My understanding if the battery is not coded you will loose battery life? Not battery drain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Mann View Post
    I spoke with the dealer and they mentioned coding.
    I have an A6, I may need to go with an OEM battery to have the info the coding requires.
    You do not need an OEM battery to be able to code the battery management, if the battery type and rating are the same then all you need to change is the serial number - which can be done with VCDS.

    Quote Originally Posted by RyMar View Post
    My understanding if the battery is not coded you will loose battery life? Not battery drain.
    That's my understanding too.

    It's sounds more like some module is continuously draining current instead of turning off.

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    There is not a aftermarket `tracking` type system fitted? In the past a found a couple of these systems will come alive at some stage and the current draw will increase. It usually happens when the back up battery of that system starts failing.

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    Address 61: Battery Regul. Labels: 4F0-910-181.lbl
    Part No SW: 4F0 910 181 E HW: 4F0 915 181 A
    Component: J0644 BEM H12 0590
    Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 00000000152229
    Shop #: WSC 02457 002 1048576
    VCID: 231312C8C7D444BFA37-8076

    Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 915 105 D
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    Coding: 34463039313531303544204D4C4131323334353637383930
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    Thanks! After a second call to Audi the service guy said the same thing. The battery info has now been updated with VCDS
    It is pointing to a something not turning off occasionally and draining the battery.
    Looking like the ignition start stop button could be suspect due to water found all around it after going through a drive through cleaning shop.

    $110 CAD for a new push button, but more testing to isolate the issue first

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    No after market stuff on the car, but good info thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PetrolDave View Post
    You do not need an OEM battery to be able to code the battery management, if the battery type and rating are the same then all you need to change is the serial number - which can be done with VCDS.


    That's my understanding too.

    It's sounds more like some module is continuously draining current instead of turning off.
    Does the evap on these cars come on at some time during sleep, know some of them come alive at odd times, just asking?, don't know on VW, everyone plays the game a little different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Manton View Post
    Does the evap on these cars come on at some time during sleep, know some of them come alive at odd times, just asking?, don't know on VW, everyone plays the game a little different.
    Pass on that one...

    A current clamp over the battery cable might be a good idea to see what the idle current when the car is locked drops to?

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    Update

    Updated the battery coding with new battery specs.
    Load tested the battery and it is good.
    A 12 hour parasitic draw test was at .05 amps.
    Updated the control modules to latest factory specs.
    Cleared all fault codes and drove the car multiple times with no faults returning.

    Did an autoscan last night and have posted the scan below.

    So far so good, the car has been starting with no voltage issues.


    Code:
     Chassis Type: 4F (4L0)
    Scan: 01 02 03 05 07 08 09 0E 0F 15 16 17 19 1E 36 37 42 46 47 4F
              52 53 55 56 61 62 67 6C 72 76 77
    
    VIN: WAUDV74F67N090226   Mileage: 98390km-61136miles
    
    00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000
    07-Control Head -- Status: OK 0000
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
    0E-Media Player 1 -- Status: OK 0000
    0F-Digital Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
    1E-Media Player 2 -- Status: OK 0000
    36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000
    37-Navigation -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
    47-Sound System -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    61-Battery Regul. -- Status: OK 0000
    62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
    67-Voice Control -- Status: OK 0000
    6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000
    72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
    76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000 
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine        Labels:. 079-907-560-BVJ.clb
       Part No SW: 4F1 910 560 A    HW: 4F1 907 560 
       Component: 4.2l V8/4V          0030  
       Revision: 74H03---    Serial number:               
       Coding: 01050009190F0120
       Shop #: WSC 91445 999 90288
       VCID: 211F18C0DDC856AFB1B-8074
    
    1 Fault Found:
    008568 - Bank 1; System Too Rich off Idle 
                   P2178 - 002 -  - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00100010
                        Fault Priority: 0
                        Fault Frequency: 2
                        Reset counter: 255
                        Mileage: 98264 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2018.12.02
                        Time: 12:31:22
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        RPM: 2143 /min
                        Load: 16.9 %
                        Speed: 112.0 km/h
                        Temperature: 96.0°C
                        Temperature: 12.0°C
                        Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
                        Voltage: 14.605 V
    
    Readiness: 0000 0000
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 02: Auto Trans        Labels: 09L-927-760.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F2 910 156 H    HW: 09L 927 156 C
       Component: AG6 09L 4,2lFSI USA 0030  
       Revision: --H01---    Serial number:        4259877
       Coding: 0000002
       Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
       VCID: 2A0DFFECA0FE95F7E01-807E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 4F0-910-517.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 517 AD    HW: 4F0 614 517 AA
       Component: ESP8 quattro    H01 0070  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000000000
       Coding: 0020840
       Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
       VCID: 66954BDC74667197049-8032
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth.        Labels:. 4F0-910-852.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 852 A    HW: 4F0 905 852 C
       Component: FBSAUDIC6 ELVSG H01 0030  
       Revision: 31050601    Serial number: 10601200590330
       Coding: 0000007
       Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
       VCID: 241111D4C2DA4387DAD-8070
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 131 L
       Component: FBSAUDIC6 EZS   H45 0080
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 910 335 
       Component: FBSAUDIC6 KSG   H27 0080
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 07: Control Head        Labels: 4F0-910-7xx-07-H.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 732 R    HW: 4E0 035 729 A
       Component: Interfacebox    H43 4610  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 361KK067510404
       Coding: 0000003
       Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: 323DE78C882EDD37581-8066
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 910 609 E
       Component: Bedienteil MMIC6H01 0060
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 00000000593110
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 0123.11.060000000100010873˙
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 010873˙
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 4F0-910-043.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 043 A    HW: 4F1 820 043 AG
       Component: KLIMABETAETIGUNGH30 0020  
       Revision: 00000052    Serial number: 00000000331514
       Coding: 0532520
       Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
       VCID: 1C612934FAAA7B4762D-8048
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 4F0-910-279.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 279 J    HW: 4F0 907 279 A
       Component: ILM Fahrer      H17 0240  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 4F0907279     
       Coding: 0113114
       Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: 3039ED848622EF272E5-8064
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F1 910 113 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
       Component: Wischer AudiC6  H05 0210  
       Coding: 00064784
       Shop #: WSC 02335  
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4E0 910 557 A  Labels: 8K0-955-559.CLB
       Component: REGENLICHTSENSORH13 0090  
       Coding: 00146221
       Shop #: WSC 02335  
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 0E: Media Player 1 (R199)       Labels:. 4E0-035-785.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 035 785 F    HW: 4E0 035 785 
       Component: SG ext.Player H09 0850  
       Revision: 00000000    
       Coding: 020000
       Shop #: WSC 20132 003 1048576
       VCID: 2B03FAE8A3048CFF1B7-807E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 0F: Digital Radio        Labels: 4E0-910-593-SIR.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 593 K    HW: 4E0 035 593 F
       Component: SDAR SIRIUS     H07 0140  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: AUZ4Z7G0198985
       Coding: 0000100
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 2F3BEEF89B1CF0DF37F-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 4F0-910-655-8R.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 655 F    HW: 4F0 959 655 A
       Component: 64 AIRBAG AUDI8RH29 0300  
       Revision: 14H29000    Serial number: 00359D0BES41  
       Coding: 0013876
       Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
       VCID: 2A0DFFECA0FE95F7E01-807E
    
       Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332CSME15251E2C3
    
       Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342CSME146D46466
    
       Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME1A443A51F
    
       Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME1829517BM
    
       Subsystem 5 - Serial number: 63734SME190D38271
    
       Subsystem 6 - Serial number: 63834SME183A3707+
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 4F0-910-549.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 549 A    HW: 4F0 953 549 C
       Component: J0527               0410  
       Revision: 00H03000    Serial number: 90025063110042
       Coding: 0012241
       Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
       VCID: 270B06D8B3ECA89FFFF-8072
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX 
       Component: E0221           H07 0090
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 4F0-910-xxx-17.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 930 C    HW: 4F0 920 931 T
       Component: KOMBIINSTR. M73 H19 0120  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 5HN53GGC6     
       Coding: 2113368
       Shop #: WSC 45359 002 1048576
       VCID: 231312C8C7D444BFA37-8076
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels:. 4L0-910-468.clb
       Part No SW: 4L0 910 468     HW: 4L0 907 468 
       Component: J533__Gateway   H06 0040  
       Revision: 00H06000    Serial number: 0900B06A308058
       Coding: F5D1DE77707A06
       Shop #: WSC 20345 003 1048576
       VCID: 6C8139F46A8A4BC752D-8038
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 1E: Media Player 2        Labels: 4E0-910-111.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 110 E    HW: 4E0 035 110 A
       Component: MP3-Changer     H44 0390  
       Revision: 00044000    Serial number: AUZ5ZBF3117101
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 1A6D2F2CF09E0577701-804E
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr        Labels: None
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 760     HW: 4F0 959 760 
       Component: Sitzmemory FS   H04 0050  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000896400
       Coding: 0082954
       Shop #: WSC 02334 785 00200
       VCID: 619F58C09D4816AFF1B-8034
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 4E0-910-88x-37.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 888 M    HW: 4E0 919 887 L
       Component: MNS US          H48 1100  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 381KV067514328
       Shop #: WSC 45359 002 1048576
       VCID: 3829D5A46E523767665-806C
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02261 - Data Medium 
                014 - Defective - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00101110
                        Fault Priority: 7
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 155
                        Mileage: 98344 km
                        Time Indication: 0
                        Date: 2018.12.03
                        Time: 22:27:45
    
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Hex Value: 0x5C05
                        Hex Value: 0xADE1
                        Hex Value: 0x0D00
                        Hex Value: 0x55A4
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 4F0-910-793-42.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 793 E    HW: 4F0 959 793 E
       Component: TSG FA          H12 0120  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: )!
       Coding: 0051947
       Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
       VCID: 2C01F9F4AA0A8BC712D-8078
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels:. 4F0-910-289.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 289 G    HW: 4F0 907 289 G
       Component: Komfortgeraet   H22 0170  
       Revision: 01700022    Serial number: 01024986060000
       Coding: 4619293
       Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: 2E05F3FC9C16F9D73C9-807A
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
       Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System        Labels: 4F0-910-223-BO.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 223 J    HW: 4F0 035 223 G
       Component: DSP-High C6     H10 0240  
       Revision: PROD_01     Serial number: 00000000004285
       Coding: 0000026
       Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
       VCID: 25170CD0C9E0BA8FCD3-8070
    
    1 Fault Found:
    02457 - Loudspeaker in Hat Shelf (R150) 
                011 - Open Circuit - Intermittent
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00111011
                        Fault Priority: 5
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Reset counter: 151
                        Time Indication: 0
    
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II        Labels: 4F0-910-280.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 280     HW: 4F0 907 280 B
       Component: ILM Beifahrer   H10 0080  
       Revision:             Serial number: 00000000059043
       Coding: 0012014
       Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
       VCID: 5EE5633CAC362957CC9-800A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 4F0-910-793-52.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 793 E    HW: 4F0 959 792 E
       Component: TSG BF          H12 0120  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: !
       Coding: 0051947
       Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
       VCID: 2C01F9F4AA0A8BC712D-8078
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake        Labels: 4F0-910-801.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 801 C    HW: 4F0 907 801 A
       Component: EPB  CDEC0080   H04 0080  
       Revision: --H04---    
       Coding: 0007022
       Shop #: WSC 02324 785 00200
       VCID: 20191DC4D6C25FA7BE5-8074
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 4F0-910-357.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 357 F    HW: 4F0 907 357 F
       Component: AFS 1           H01 0020  
       Revision: 00000001    Serial number:               
       Coding: 0000016
       Shop #: WSC 02325 785 00200
       VCID: 290F00E0A5F89EEFE9B-807C
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 941 329 B
       Component: AFS-Modul links H02 0020
    
       Subsystem 2 - Part No: 4F0 941 329 B
       Component: AFS-Modul rechtsH02 0020
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio        Labels: 4E0-910-541.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 541 T    HW: 4F0 035 541 H
       Component: TUNER EU/US/RDW H42 0630  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 394K1067709259
       Coding: 0000002
       Shop #: WSC 02323 785 00200
       VCID: 313FE8808D28E62F21B-8064
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 61: Battery Regul.        Labels: 4F0-910-181.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 181 E    HW: 4F0 915 181 A
       Component: J0644 BEM       H12 0590  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000000152229
       Shop #: WSC 02457 002 1048576
       VCID: 231312C8C7D444BFA37-8076
    
       Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4F0 915 105 D
       Component: von BA2  1234567891       
       Coding: 344630393135313035442042413231323334353637383931
       Shop #: WSC 20132 003 1048576
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 4F0-910-795.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 795 E    HW: 4F0 959 795 E
       Component: TSG HL          H21 0050  
       Coding: 0051754
       Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
       VCID: 2E05F3FC9C16F9D73C9-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 67: Voice Control        Labels: 4E0-910-75x-67.lbl
       Part No SW: 4E0 910 754 Q    HW: 4E0 035 753 A
       Component: SDS 3501 US     H45 0630  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000611180090
       Shop #: WSC 12336 024 394758
       VCID: 3431E194723AD3074AD-8060
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6C: Back-up Cam.        Labels: 4L0-910-441.clb
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 441     HW: 4L0 907 441 A
       Component: J772__Rearview      0050  
       Revision: --H12---    Serial number: 525PA8-J69207Q
       Coding: 1000304
       Shop #: WSC 02335 785 00200
       VCID: 5DE76430A130324FD53-8008
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 4F0-910-795.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 795 E    HW: 4F0 959 794 E
       Component: TSG HR          H21 0050  
       Coding: 0051754
       Shop #: WSC 02327 785 00200
       VCID: 2E05F3FC9C16F9D73C9-807A
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 4Fx-910-283.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 283 F    HW: 4F0 919 283 F
       Component: Parkhilfe 4-Kan H09 0060  
       Revision: 00H09000    Serial number: 06220631905651
       Coding: 0021206
       Shop #: WSC 131071 1023 2097151
       VCID: 270B06D8B3ECA89FFFF-8072
    
    No fault code found.
    
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 77: Telephone        Labels: 4E0-910-336.lbl
       Part No SW: 4F0 910 336 H    HW: 4E0 862 335 
       Component: Handyvorb2      H16 1130  
       Revision: 00000000    Serial number: 00000007555921
       Coding: 0010900
       Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
       VCID: 280905E4BEF2A7E7F65-807C
    
    No fault code found.
    
    End----------(Elapsed Time: 02:25, VBatt start/end: 14.2V/14.5V)-----------
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